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Talk of the town

By Times Staff Writer
Published October 4, 2004

[Times photo: Brendan Fitterer]
John Lynch gets a rousing welcome from Bucs fans before Sunday's game.

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THE GAME
0 and Fourlorn
When will they win?
Bucs Notebook
Pittman gives hope to offense in pits
Tampa Bay's down, but not yet out
A full day for Clayton
Emotion, hits are heavy in Lynch's return
Last drive prompts questions about defense
Talk of the town

COMMENTARY
John Romano: Gimme Five
Gary Shelton: Whatever the reasons are, there's no excuse

Five topics suitable for inane debate on talk radio:

CHOKING THE HOPE AWAY:

It's not just frustrating how the Bucs lose close games, it's uncanny. Since winning the Super Bowl, Tampa Bay is 0-7 in games decided by four points or fewer.

LEAVING THE WHEELCHAIRS BEHIND:

A younger tailback. A younger tight end. Two younger receivers. A younger right tackle for a brief time. I don't want to say the offense no longer looks old, but now it doesn't leave the turn signal on when driving downfield.

MAKE A $&#!@ PLAY:

As well as the defense has played the past two seasons, it consistently has failed to stop opponents on the final drive. Trailing Washington by three points in the opener, the Bucs allowed the Redskins to hold the ball for all but 16 seconds of the final five minutes. Trailing the Broncos by three Sunday, Denver held the ball for all but three seconds of the final seven minutes.

THIS JUST IN:

Frank Murphy ruptures an Achilles tendon and is out for the season. Keenan McCardell offers to break the news to Jon Gruden.

TELL YOUR STATISTICS TO SHUT UP:

Kenyatta Walker replaced right tackle Todd Steussie on two possessions in the second quarter but sat the rest of the game. On those two possessions, the Bucs scored a touchdown and field goal. Probably just a coincidence.

A LIST OF FIVE

Five positive signs from Sunday:

5. Offense added a few new wrinkles with different players. As opposed to the previous plan of adding a few new players with wrinkles.

4. Turns out, Simeon Rice is not holding out.

3. Receivers given permission to run past defensive backs.

2. The league has agreed to consider Tampa Bay's request to play against RB Quentin Griffin every week.

1. No hurricane.

FIVE WAYS TO LOSE

TIPTOE THROUGH THE RED ZONE: The Bucs had first downs inside the Denver 20 on two possessions. They didn't score a touchdown either time. The league average for TDs in the red zone is around 50 percent. After going 0-for-2 Sunday, the Bucs are at 14 percent.

PASS INTERFERENCE ON THE WINNING DRIVE: You may argue the penalty called on Dwight Smith, but the Bucs have only themselves to blame. Smith was in a position to be flagged because he was running halfway across the field to reach an open receiver.

PUTTING YOUR MAN DOWN: On a third and 1 in the second half, John Lynch sticks Mike Alstott in the backfield for a loss and a Bucs drive ends.

PUTTING YOUR MAN DOWN (NOT!): On a third and 1 in the fourth quarter, Smith sticks Reuben Droughns in the backfield. Droughns runs through the tackle and a Broncos drive continues.

OFFSIDES PENALTY ON A FAILED THIRD AND 3: No excuse.

FIVE SUPER PICKS

Checking out the best bets for Super Bowl XXXIX in Jacksonville:

1. EAGLES: At this point, only Larry Bowa could screw up Philly. 2. PATRIOTS: Now this is how you defend a Super Bowl. 3. SEAHAWKS: In that division, they may clinch by Halloween. 4. FALCONS: Defense giving up half as many points as last season. 25. BUCS: Seventh 0-4 start. Their best recovery was 6-10.

FINAL FIVE WORDS FOR JOHN LYNCH

Congratulations on getting outta here.

[Last modified October 4, 2004, 02:50:31]

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