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Bay's home boom suddenly bellyup

By JAMES THORNER, SCOTT BARANCIK, and MATTHEW WAITE
Published November 19, 2006


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Jodi Roberts and her husband, Jeffrey, made hundreds of thousands of dollars as investors in the sizzling housing market. But the downturn has hit them hard: They haven't been able to sell the four investment homes they have bought in the past year. "I'm in deep," says Jodi Roberts.

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Year to year, overall housing prices in the Tampa Bay area still show small increases. But don't be fooled.

So large is this area's unsold inventory of homes and so comparatively few the buyers, most housing prices have actually retreated 5 to 15 percent.

And it has happened only since the spring.

A recent St. Petersburg Times analysis of single-family home sales in 200 neighborhoods in Pinellas, Pasco and Hillsborough counties found that two-thirds saw median home prices stagnate or fall between the second quarter and third quarter of 2006. One third reported rising median prices.

And not all of those still-appreciating neighborhoods are sitting as pretty as the numbers suggest. Take Gulf Harbors in west Pasco County. Median prices rose 45 percent from the second to third quarters this year. But homes of similar size dropped in price. Why? A spurt of big home sales in the third quarter skewed the median.

When measured by price per square foot, homes have lost value almost everywhere.

Median means half the homes sold for more than a particular amount and half sold for less.

"It's not so much prices are coming down, it's that prices should never have been there in the first place," said Craig Beggins, owner of a Century 21 franchise in southeast Hillsborough and Pinellas.

Look what happened to the investment dreams of Jodi and Jeffrey Roberts.

The real estate climate was so balmy the past few years, the Robertses' investment homes showered them with hundreds of thousands of dollars in easy gains.

Now they are bracing for a different forecast: stormy with a chance of foreclosure. Four Pasco and Hillsborough county properties they bought at the tail end of the property boom can't find buyers willing to offer more than the Robertses paid for them.

Price cuts aren't doing the trick. In west Pasco's Gulf Harbors, the couple listed a home for $50,000 less than what they paid. The result? Zero buyer interest.

"I know how it feels to be poor," Jodi Roberts said as she contemplated her combined $15,000 monthly house payments.

As a rough rule, neighborhoods that were fever beds of investors last year have turned cold this year. Sales have fallen by about half the past year, and the law of supply and demand is reasserting itself with a vengeance:

- In its ride to the real estate stratosphere, St. Pete Beach relied on sales of waterfront homes to out-of-state baby boomers. Two years of hurricanes and insurance rate hikes put the kibosh on that. Realtor Carol Giavannoni urged residents to look at 2005 prices and lop off 5 to 10 percent.

- In MiraBay, in southeast Hillsborough, about 150 of 500 homes display "For Sale" signs. The upscale neighborhood of Bermuda lawns, balconies and backyard boat slips is a victim of its own success. The investors that propped up Apollo Beach, the community to which MiraBay belongs, have bailed out. Prices are down 26 percent.

- Meadow Pointe, the Tampa Bay region's leading home seller for much of the past decade, once attracted hundreds of investors to its central Pasco homes. No more. Median sales prices dipped 9 percent, among the worst performances of suburbs running the length of south Pasco.

"Investors bought lots of new construction, held for several months and now they're getting at the end of their fun time," said Hillsborough Realtor Craig Eaton.

The fun time has ended for Leonard and Joyce Sondheimer. In October 2005, the Bradenton couple bought a $338,900 MiraBay townhome on Aberdeen Pond Drive. The bayside investment home with stone counters, hardwood floors and stainless steel appliances was sure to appreciate to half a million dollars. Or so the Sondheimers thought.

After a year on the market, no one has nibbled. Their Realtor chopped the price to break even. The tax bill alone on that single investment - $8,900 a year - is draining the Sondheimers' nest egg.

"I was retired and now I've had to go back to work. I've got to pay all these bills," Leonard Sondheimer, 68, said of his new job as a mattress salesman. "It's getting sickening."

To be sure, price declines won't sicken renters and out-of-towners discouraged the past few years by runaway prices. And times are still good for sellers sitting on gains from years past.

A prime example: Of the 18 homeowners who sold in Clearwater's Coachman/Sunset Point area in the third quarter, not one lost money. That included two flippers who bought houses just months earlier.

Clearwater's Tom Byrnes bought a 1,400-square-foot fixer-upper on Pineapple Lane for $175,000 in January and resold it for $230,000 in August. It wasn't all profit. Byrnes spent $25,000 on a roof, stucco and kitchen and bath upgrades. "A year and a half ago, you could put a pile of rubble on a lot and people would buy it," he said.

In St. Petersburg's Childs Park section, the median sales price climbed 13 percent. Realtor Lou Brown said the mainly low-income, black neighborhood was among the last to enjoy the fruit of the boom. Speculators continue to poke around for bargains. Eight fix-and-flip investors accounted for more than a third of quarterly sales there.

But the get-rich-quick atmosphere has already bypassed southeast Hillsborough. As Beggins gathers his agents, he explains the new rules. Look to sales prices from late 2004 or early 2005. Sellers don't want to hear they won't make 20 to 30 percent as before.

"Ninety-seven percent of people selling their homes are p----- off at me," Beggins said.

Jodi and Jeffrey Roberts say they are more angry with themselves. They say they made $310,000 last year, a combination of salaries as employees of MI Homes and gains from flipping investment homes. The home in Gulf Harbors - Pasco's highest flying neighborhood during the boom - drew so little buyer interest that Jodi Roberts moved in with her family of six to wait out the slump.

The $185,000, 1,500-square-foot house in Wood Trail Village north of State Road 54 hasn't fielded an offer of more than $175,000. Roberts is three months behind on payments for a Carrollwood condo she bought in December with no cash down.

"These houses are a ticking time bomb depending on how fast the mortgage companies come after me," Jodi Roberts said.

Are any hopeful rays piercing the gloom? Maybe. Home inventory dipped slightly in September, the first time it had done so in 15 months. Home builders seem to have stabilized prices.

But most sellers and Realtors are bracing for more short-term pain.

Beggins gapes at the bloated listings: 260 homes for sale in FishHawk Ranch, another 125 in Covington Park and 170 more in Bloomingdale. And it could get worse: Sellers holding property off market during the holidays could join the free-for-all in the new year.

Yet there's only one cure for the home price blues: smaller supply and greater demand.

Advised Beggins: "Don't enter the market before you absolutely have to sell."

James Thorner can be reached at thorner@sptimes.com or 813 226-3313. Scott Barancik can be reached at barancik@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8751. Matthew Waite can be reached at waite@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8568.

[Last modified November 19, 2006, 00:21:38]


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Comments on this article
by KBHOLMES 02/13/07 09:36 PM
You can't blame Realtors or investors, they are only smart people who know how to work smart. I would blame the current situation to Insurance companies and Mortgage companies. Bravo for the people who made money!! I love this country.
by Brian 02/13/07 12:23 PM
I have no love loss for the flippers but I think you give them too much credit for impacting the market. The double hit of rising property taxes and wind insurance is huge, and the market is reacting in a predictable manner - i.e., down.
by Thomas 02/12/07 12:53 PM
These investors, Flippers, have just killed the Market, we who wanted to sell our houses can't. My House was on the market s1nce Oct. 2005 and all I got was Investors, wanting to pick up my morgage and pay me $500. a month. Have me carry them.
by rd 02/11/07 10:07 PM
I question the impact of these gloomy articles. If I were sitting on the sidelines, I would postpone a purchase after reading them. These articles seem to hurt both sides...and in the end what have we really learned that was already known.
by rick 01/31/07 01:16 PM
HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT MOVING TO ST. PETE. AREA AND WORKING FOR SOMEONE THAT FLIPS HOMES. I HAVE DONE ABOUT 40 IN MY LIFE. BEEN A REALTOR IN DAYTON AREA FOR 15 YEARS AND THE MARKET IS DEAD HERE. MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS #1 IN FORCLOUSES IN OHIO. THANKS
by Anne 01/25/07 03:20 PM
Boo-Hoo to those who inflated the housing prices beyond what normal people can afford. We have been looking for an affordable ($150,000) home for the last 6 months in a good neighborhood. No go. So do not expect me to feel sorry for the greedy.
by Adam 01/24/07 10:57 AM
I am planning to relocate from Washington DC.. The prices are 1/2 the amount from where I am at so it feels good.. to pay something off.. I will wait till this madness is over to get even a better deal.. Nice comments.. for out of towners..
by Christine 01/19/07 03:16 PM
"Yet there's only one cure for the home price blues: smaller supply and greater demand." That is wrong, the correct statement should say. Yet there's only one cure for the home price blues: drastic price reductions.
by colleen 01/17/07 02:44 PM
st. pete seller. not greedy, worked my butt off on that house,were the buyer won't have to put money in to it for 15 to 20 years now that is called an investment.ins.low, taxes low no evac.
by Brant 01/09/07 02:10 PM
I was recently pricing houses in my hometown of St. Pete. I can't believe what people are asking for them. Asking prices in Old N.E. are sometimes worse than exclusive parts of Miami.
by Jill 01/01/07 04:56 PM
We pulled out of St. Pete's Old Northeast 2 years ago. I was sad to leave, but I couldn't stomach paying the top end of our range of $325K for a 3/2 and only being able to afford a complete bomb shelter. Waiting to see who can pick up the pieces.
by Brian 01/01/07 12:13 PM
Chuck makes an interesting comment on rental fees but probably should not worry as this is one area where true market forces are still working, i.e., you can't raise fees beyond a competitive amount or folks will simply go to Arizona, Mexico, TX, etc
by TJ 12/15/06 01:55 PM
Why are all these people buying new homes before selling their old ones...then boo hoo...I can't afford 2 mortgage payments! Sorry, but I have no sympathy. My home has been for sale for 6 months but I am not buying anyting until it sells first!
by Chuck McAllister 12/13/06 02:47 PM
We have acationed in St Pete beach for 10 years and really wanted to buy a place but prices got too crazy.I just wonder what will happen to the rental fees for a condo.The Goose that laid to Golden Egg is in trouble!!!
by KD 12/09/06 08:46 AM
What fools, the Roberts. Give me a break ... $310k last year and they are not paying their mortgages? Get a job ... stop expecting to get rich without contributing anything to society.
by anne 12/01/06 03:02 PM
I grew up in st. Petersburg and can't believe how expensive the houses have gotten. People are to greedy. Its the same here in sacramento.
by BZ 11/29/06 04:59 PM
My brother bought a 1100 square ft house (that was built in 1967) for 60k 10 years ago in Hillborough. Now he has moved out of Fla and is trying to sell his house for 250k. Perfect example of what is going on here.....can we all say GREED!!
by Pepper 11/28/06 03:28 PM
I am in a position to buy a home for my family and cannot do so becuase of all the flippers.I am a 1st time buyer and taxes and insurance almost double what my monthly payment will be. Going to try and keep renting and wait it out. Maybe by mid 2007.
by Deb 11/27/06 11:24 PM
Greed powered all-the builders, sellers, investors, realtors, lenders, mortgage brokers, attorneys, title insurance companies, counties- now the spiral downward, where the low/medium income buyers suffered before...now the greedy will suffer.
by Waiting 11/26/06 04:46 PM
I'm just sitting and waiting to buy. You would have to be nuts to buy right now as prices for homes I have watched dropped $100k in some instances. Let them continue to sweat is my plan and then come in for the kill.
by 200k Renter 11/25/06 11:46 PM
Never in my wildest dreams would I imagine making nearly $200k a year and renting. However, I will not buy one of these overpriced, overtaxed and overinsured pieces of #$%@! I will wait for the day that I know is soon to be coming. See the signs?
by Darrell 11/25/06 12:33 PM
Until something is done about homeowners insurance the housing market in Florida is going to stay in the dumper!!!!!
by Candi 11/24/06 09:03 PM
YOU CANT EVEN INSURE THEM FOR SINK HOLE'S WHO'S GOING TO BUY THEM FOR THAT? ALL FLORIDA IS IS SWAMP LAND IT WILL GET TO HEAVEY SOME DAY AND IT WILL ALL SINK AND WILL BE ALL OCEAN AND SWAMP LANDS THEY HAVE FILLED YEAR'S AGO WASHING AWAY. BYE
by Sam 11/24/06 08:01 PM
Florida used to be a place where people could live rather cheaply ie: No state income tax, low property tax, no tax on food and drugs. Now, however, the Greedy Realtors and Developers have Killed the Goose that layed the Golden Egg.
by Jason 11/24/06 08:17 AM
Real Estate speculators are the reason that things got this way and now they're having to pay to play. I have absolutely no sympathy at all for those that created the mania which has ultimately forced people form their homes.
by Hannah 11/23/06 10:14 AM
Prices skyrocketed in 2005, we need to go back to 2003, when prices were realistic and add an average of 7 percent per year to adjust.
by Dave 11/22/06 10:30 PM
All buyers hold on so prices keep dropping, and we can weed out the greedy speculators and real estate agents.
by johneen@homescorpuschristi.com 11/22/06 09:33 PM
Hi Johneen I thought you might be interested in seeing what is going on in fl. I will email you in a min. Nan Ditmore
by Lee 11/22/06 02:16 AM
Insurance prices (if you can find any) & RE taxes driving people out of Florida. Had HO policy 10 yrs-no losses-Allstate not renewing in Jan. Premiums are more than double for replacement. Bah Humbug!
by Sue & John 11/21/06 02:49 PM
I my heart bleeds not for the home flippers. You took away our chance of buying a home in a certain price range, for your profit. Shame on you.
by carole 11/21/06 09:24 AM
nice to read about the other counties, how about hernando? this would be a great help to all of us.
by 77B 11/21/06 08:56 AM
No offense to TJ, but I encourage others to also relocate. Maybe the roads will be less crowded.
by TJ 11/20/06 06:17 PM
Skyrocketing housing prices caused me to relocate to the Gulf in Mississippi. A little less beautiful, yes, but beaches, a mild climate and much more affordable.
by 77B 11/20/06 05:18 PM
"made hundreds of thousands of dollars" I bet she's complaining about the taxes, too, as she drives her BMW around.
by Al. 11/20/06 04:53 PM
Had home on market IN 1998 for 149.000 in 05 sotd for 325.000 new owner has on market for 725.000.
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