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State finds more grouper impostors

By STEPHEN NOHLGREN
Published January 30, 2007


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TALLAHASSEE - Seventeen of 24 Tampa Bay area restaurants tested last year by the Florida Attorney General's Office advertised grouper on menus but served some other fish.

Sandi Copes, press secretary for Attorney General Bill McCollum, did not name the restaurants but said Monday that a civil investigation into grouper substitution is ongoing.

The investigation, which followed a St. Petersburg Times story about fake grouper, first came to light in November, after the state subpoenaed invoices and other documents from more than a dozen restaurants.

Monday was the first time the Attorney General's Office revealed the extent of its DNA sampling.

Unrelated to the attorney general's investigation, it turns out that the grouper troubles have reached the very cafeteria where state regulators, legislators and lobbyists hobnob over fried chicken and corn bread.

Eatz Capital Cafe was cited Friday, accused of selling a $6.59 grouper sandwich that turned out to be an Asian catfish called ponga.

A popular gathering spot in the busy Capitol, Eatz is one floor below the governor's office. It specializes in deli-style sandwiches, Southern fare and runs a fish special on Fridays.

Two weeks ago, the Florida Department of Agriculture received a tip that Eatz was serving ponga, which wholesales for $2 to $3 a pound.

Frozen grouper imported from Asia and South America can wholesale for $3.50 to $5 a pound. Fresh Florida grouper, caught in the Gulf of Mexico, wholesales for $10 a pound or more.

Eatz owner Valerie James declined to comment, but agriculture spokesman Terry McElroy described Monday how his department responded to the tip.

On Jan. 19, two department employees ordered fish sandwiches, one fried, one broiled. Nothing on the menu identified the fish, McElroy said. But when asked, servers behind the counter said it was grouper.

The Agriculture Department has a DNA testing lab because it oversees seafood distributors, grocery stores and other outlets that sell uncooked fish. Lab tests identified the Eatz fish as ponga.

Agriculture Commissioner Charles Bronson dines at Eatz two or three times a week and said it's a fine restaurant. But fish substitutes "are really not fair to the customer, who thinks they are buying freshly caught grouper."

The case was referred to the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, which licenses restaurants, and inspector Richard Bull inquired about the fish special Friday. Again, the servers told him it was grouper. When he questioned the owner, James said it was ponga.

Bull recommended the Department of Business and Professional Regulation file an administrative complaint, which is the standard first step in such cases, spokeswoman Kristen Ploska said. Supervisors and the legal department will make the final decision, and Eatz could be fined up to $1,000.

Diners, restaurant owners and seafood suppliers have taken a hard look at grouper since the summer, when six out of 11 restaurants sampled in a St. Petersburg Times DNA test turned out to be serving cheaper substitutes.

Most of the restaurants said they had no idea that their grouper was not authentic. They paid suppliers for grouper, they said, and the fish came in boxes marked grouper.

Some have since removed grouper from their menus.

"I can't do any more ordering of grouper because I don't know what I'm getting," said Larry Jackson, owner of the Casual Clam in St. Petersburg. "And I don't want to get into trouble."

Casual Clam now serves haddock on dishes where it used to serve "grouper," Jackson said, and "it's selling like crazy."

Dan Wesner, owner of two Fish Tales restaurants in St. Petersburg, said he still buys an imported red grouper, but has changed his menu to read "White fish formerly known as grouper."

His supplier now requires importers to send DNA certificates with the fish, Wesner said.

Wesner said that in December, the Attorney General's Office said Fish Tales should pay a $500 fine, plus a $4,500 donation to the state, because donations are tax deductible.

"I said, 'I'm not paying anything. I've done nothing wrong,' " Wesner said. "I haven't heard back."

The boxes he bought always said grouper, he said. Instead of threatening him, he said, the state should set up a mechanism to test imports.

"Who protects me? Where is my protection?"

Copes, the attorney general's press secretary, declined to discuss the Fish Tales case.

She did confirm that the office has told WingHouse, a popular Tampa Bay area chain, that "it needs to be more precise in describing to customers what it is offering."

WingHouse serves a "grouper teammate" sandwich that is swai, another Asian catfish.

Director of purchasing Christopher M. Jones said he has been on the job only a few weeks and was not party to conversations with the state but said WingHouse would follow the law.

Customers know that "grouper teammate" is not really a grouper, he said. "It's all a fun joke."

Right after "grouper teammate," the menu says that the restaurant's owner was fishing for grouper in the gulf "and found a better fish."

Hooters restaurants lists "grouper cousin" on its menu. Hooters officials could not be reached Monday, but they have previously said they buy an Asian grouper species from a regular supplier. Their menu lists "grouper cousin" so diners won't think it is Florida grouper.

The attorney general is not suggesting that Hooters be more precise, Copes said.

McElroy, the agriculture spokesman, recalled a state campaign years ago that touted fresh Florida orange juice. State officials turned red-faced when a reporter checked on the Capitol cafeteria's orange juice.

It came from Brazil.

Stephen Nohlgren can be reached at nohlgren@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8442.

[Last modified January 30, 2007, 15:03:48]


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by Stella 04/26/07 12:22 PM
Grouper hasn't been grouper for over 30 years. I cannot believe this report is just coming out. I worked in a restaurant on St. Pete beach 30 yrs ago and we served pollack, whiting, or turbet for grouper. The place is no longer in business.
by Bob 04/07/07 08:36 AM
I knew 15 years ago that restaurants were cheating people. I ordered a grouper sandwich and I "knew" it was not grouper, havent ordered one since. Best bet is to only eat deep cold water pelagic fish-better for your health. Nix on farm raised.
by Carol 03/30/07 07:44 AM
Stephen, the paper didn't have any problem reporting the two places in an earlier story. Why not the names of these 17. Probably somebody's brother's sisters's cousin or something. Practice responsible reporting. Shame on the times editor. related?
by Steve 03/17/07 08:15 AM
I've caught and cleaned allot of grouper and this family has a distinctive grain pattern. Anybody who works with it regularly and says "I can't tell the difference" is stupid or a liar. Fooled by a similar species, maybe, but not what they're serving
by Steve 02/08/07 03:17 PM
"Caveat Emptor" What do you expect when you order a Grouper sandwich for $6.95 or $8.95 for a dinner. A real Grouper sandwich today will cost you $12.00 or more and a dinner at $18.95 or more.
by Robert 02/02/07 09:36 PM
Governor Crist did a good job in getting the AG's office to enforce the laws on the books regarding consumer fraud. Hopefully AG Mc Collum will not only continue the effort to stop the cheating but will expand to other areas in the state.
by mike 02/01/07 12:57 PM
this is for matt and sarah. here in sw fla, goliath grouper numbers are good but in other areas, they would get overfished too easily. as for the grouper scam, unless i catch it or its whole, i wont eat it. you dont know what you are getting.
by Jim 02/01/07 10:35 AM
Where is the U.S. FDA. It is a federal crime to change the species of fish . All fish is assumed to be caught outside state lines under sections 301(a) or 301(b) of the FD&C Act the shipper can be charged in Federal Court. FDA is not doing its job.
by Mark 01/31/07 09:15 PM
You know what! What a bunch of nonsense. I never buy a fish sandwich from any so called fresh fish restaurant. These owners are crooks who sell it and lie about it. If I don't catch I won't eat it. To heck with em!
by Mark 01/31/07 08:40 PM
I second Mike's comment OK... so where's the list of the 17 restaurants?????????
by lawrence 01/31/07 06:24 PM
it's in a box? fresh fish should be whole, then it still looks like the picture ~8)
by Richard 01/31/07 09:12 AM
Substituting cheaper fish for the real item has been something that purveyors have done for years in more items then just grouper or red snapper. I was a plant manager in NY for many years and had to educate restaurant owners.
by Roger 01/31/07 06:46 AM
re; "I didn't know..." Give me a break! Someone owning a restaurant sees a product selling for one third the market price and doesn't suspect a substituton??? The product difference is clear to the naked eye. Please.
by Mike 01/31/07 01:13 AM
OK... so where's the list of the 17 restaurants?????????
by Matt 01/30/07 12:38 PM
Sarah, that is the most ridiculos thing I have heard yet. Goliath grouper can be a menace, i agree there. I have been on many spots offshore and cannot keep them off of our fish. I am a commercial fisherman. But we do not want to open them up!!
by keith 01/30/07 12:38 PM
I own a restaurant that sells a lot of fish. There is no way I would not know what I am buying, even mis labelled on the invoice. Any yahoo can open a restaurant, maybe therein lies the problem
by FishEater 01/30/07 10:49 AM
The grouper situation is ridiculous, I gave up ordering grouper long ago. YOu can't trust anyone...
by David 01/30/07 10:29 AM
Again why are people eating grouper when they can't even tell it's not grouper they are eating!
by Sarah 01/30/07 10:13 AM
It's our own fault restaurants are faking it. The ban on goliath grouper is stupid. Those things are a menace and the population needs to be thinned. Then no more grouper shortage and no more faking. Easy.
by Bruce 01/30/07 09:54 AM
I can't believe that restaurant owners in Florida have no way of knowing what is the real Florida grouper. I would suggest that they inspect their purchases of fish to make sure they are getting what they and their customers are paying for.
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