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Confederate flag on tag seeks backer

But opposition to the plate comes swiftly.

By ANNE LINDBERG
Published January 31, 2007


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For some, the Confederate battle flag is a symbol of the country’s racist past, of a viewpoint best forgotten.


But a group who cherishes the old flag as a point of Southern pride is working to do just the opposite.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans want to immortalize the flag on a Florida speciality license plate.

The group’s leaders say they have collected 30,000 signatures from people who would buy the plate. They’ve also raised the $60,000 deposit needed to put the proposal before the state Legislature.

Getting it approved this year would be especially appropriate, they say, because it is the 200th anniversary of Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee’s birthday.

The group knows the plate will evoke some bad feelings, said Robert Hurst, the public relations director for the Florida division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

“There are people in this society, who, every time you mention Confederate, will complain,” Hurst said. “We know that there will be opposition and gnashing of teeth and thumping of chests when we get our tags.”

The group’s goal, he said, is to honor “our ancestors, to maintain our presence and raise some money for our division.”

Despite the controversy, Hurst said he does not believe the Sons of Confederate Veterans will have any trouble getting legislative approval.

It would be “bad faith,” he said, for the Legislature to refuse it after approving 100 other speciality plates.
State Sen. Arthenia Joyner, D-Tampa, disagreed, saying the Legislature is “too sophisticated” to permit such a specialty tag.

“I don’t think they’d fall into the trap of passing legislation that raises the spectre of racism,” Joyner said. “It’s a very sensitive issue in this state and this country. It’s very polarizing and we don’t need that today.”

Funds for graveyards

Last month, Hillsborough County commissioners ran into criticism after issuing a proclamation recognizing the bicentennial birthday of Lee on the same day they honored a longtime a black community activist.

The license plate is not meant to polarize, said Doug Guetzloe, the head of Advantage Consultants in Winter Park who is helping usher the plate through the Legislature.

To begin with, the $25 per plate fee that would go to the Sons of Confederate Veterans would be used to maintain graveyards of men on both sides of the conflict. Another portion would go to education.

The goal is to celebrate the state’s “Confederate heritage,” not to insult people by displaying the battle flag.

“The design actually minimizes the Confederate battle flag,” Guetzloe said. “It’s a very tastefully done representation of the Confederate flags that flew over Florida.”

The proposed plate shows four flags surrounding a center emblem of the battle flag. Two of the flags are the battle flag.

Warning of message

The group’s good intentions do not matter, Joyner said. Nor does the plate’s appearance.

“You can dress it up and say it’s for this purpose, but it still has the concept of … racism,” Joyner said. “It’s the message we send to the nation that racism is alive and well in Florida.”

If people want to display the Confederate battle flag, they can do so without a state-sponsored tag, she said. Confederate plates can be placed on the front of the vehicle.

Meanwhile, the group is shopping for a lawmaker to sponsor the plate.

Several legislators have been consulted, but none have signed on, Guetzloe said.

However, he was confident that someone would be named in the next few days.

[Last modified January 31, 2007, 21:50:28]


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by Wayne 05/16/07 01:48 PM
I have several relatives that fought in the war, and I think that this tag is the RIGHT of people who had relatives in this war to support and display. We have plates supporting everything from a fish to a bicycle. I am a SVC and support this plate.
by Chris 04/11/07 02:52 PM
What happend to the will of the people? Of all the polls taken more than 80% support the confederate license plate. Lets let the voters decide.
by Joe 04/11/07 02:50 PM
We need to vote Ms. Joyner out of office. A news station in Tampa took a poll regarding the confederate flag. Out of more than 7000 people interviewed more than 5500 said they wanted the flag on plates. What ever happend to the will of the people?
by Jake 04/11/07 02:49 PM
So many people from the north want to live in the south, but they want to change our culture. The flag is a symbol of pride for many of us in the south. my relatives who fought in the war did not die for nothing. We need to always rember.
by Joe 04/11/07 02:47 PM
The civil war was not fought because of slaves. As a mater of fact slaves were becoming more and more obsolete in the south because of the cotton gin. Just because the north won the war who says they are right???????
by Jim 04/11/07 02:42 PM
The north had slaves as well as the south. The slaves came to this nation on boats owned by the usa as well as other nations. We should question diversity not embrace it
by Eric 04/11/07 02:38 PM
The flag does not represent racism. For all of you yankees complaining you can move back up north. We did not ask you to come down here! You chose to and in doing so must live by our culture.
by Mike 03/07/07 06:24 PM
We don't fly the Union Jack or the Swastika or the Japanese rising sun bacause they lost. The Confederacy was responsible for the deaths of 100s of thousands of Americans and the near fracture of this great country. There is no honor in that flag.
by Robert 03/06/07 12:43 PM
Robert E Lee is a personal hero...with one tragic flaw...his advice to his fellow southerners was to "Abandon your animosities and make your sons Americans." I hope those with the bitter distaste to fly the Confederate flag head their hero's words.
by Clint 02/27/07 07:41 AM
As Americans we have all been asked and told to accept other cultures. WHY is it that we are now being told that SOUTHERN culture has no place in Florida or America?
by JOHN 02/14/07 02:33 AM
WE IN MISS. HAVE SCV TAGS. OUR SCV LOGO IS ALL THAT IS ON THEM. NO ONE SEEMS TO GET INSULTED HERE. IF SO I HAVE NEVER HEARD IT. WE HAVE HAD SCV TAGS FOR SOME TIME NOW. MY BUMPER STICKER NEXT TO IT SAYS "DON'T ASSUME I SHARE YOUR PREJUDICES"
by Jesus 02/12/07 12:51 AM
Morality vs equality. Culture or monetary? you are a prisone within you own institution.....think about it.
by Russ 02/05/07 12:51 PM
I happen to have had ancestors on both sides of the conflict. And both sides happened to have black slaves. The conflict was started over taxes not slaves. My heritage is as important to me as any other heritage is to another. Grant us a the Tag.
by Clint 02/05/07 07:31 AM
To: You LOST the war...yeah, by PC standards. And because of that assumption, we ALL lost the constitution! Don't like Florida's heritage? Take I-95 north!
by Thomas 02/03/07 03:46 PM
Mrs Joyner need to remember she is talking about her voters in Tampa.
by Pam 02/02/07 12:08 PM
You LOST the war! Disguise it by calling it heritage but it is hate, leave it in the history books for us to read about.
by Lucy 02/01/07 08:02 PM
It would be discriminating to deny this tag to the SCV if they have met all the requirements any other group must meet. Grant it, or revoke all other specialty tag permits.
by Dave 02/01/07 07:22 PM
It is unfortunate that this issue always ends up being called a racial hate issue. This is American history, and celebrating Florida's Confederate heritage needs not become a black/white issue. All races of Americans served as Confederate soldiers.
by Terry 02/01/07 06:01 PM
It really is time for people to let go of prejudice. How can we ever move forward as long as some people want to deny others their own heritage? I dream that some day people of all races and colors will look at the Confederate flag without hatred!
by Scott 02/01/07 05:41 PM
Florida is a Confederate State, love it or leave it! I won't vote in the future for any elected official who opposes this tag.
by Nash 02/01/07 03:10 PM
The "Haters" are those who oppose the flag, not those who support it.
by Earl 02/01/07 11:51 AM
The SCV should be treated like all other historical correct requests to have the same priviledge to honor history as it should be.This request supports the true history of those brave men,women and children who are our ancestors.The SCV is right.
by James 02/01/07 10:52 AM
I'm amazed at the ignorance and intolerance against all things Confederate. The America I know still allows all Americans to honour their heritage. Confederate is not synonomous with hate. We're not going away...deal with your anti southern hatred.
by VaSteve 02/01/07 08:37 AM
No tags? Come on now. Diversity and tolerance,remember? Or does diversity mean to include only what "you" want and tolerance is what other people should have toward what "you" like.
by Mike 02/01/07 07:35 AM
I support the confederate battle flag.The liberal media should emancipate themselves from mental slavery.They are the only one that can free their minds
by Phil 02/01/07 05:50 AM
Why not the Confederate Flag, they already have the anti-abortion plate. Way to go, Flori-duh.
by Lester 02/01/07 05:31 AM
Haters-should not have legal sanction to display their self hatred for non-sheet wearers. Fl is beyond that status and Gov Crist is moving in the right direction. Hell no to Kland Plates.
by Bill 02/01/07 05:04 AM
It is my understanding that the confederate flag has been surrendered by those who fought for it many years ago.
by monte poitevint 02/01/07 04:50 AM
Florida was a Confederate state and nothing will ever change that fact. People who work to rewrite history are fools. As a native Floridian, I am proud of my ancestry and history.
by Ray 02/01/07 03:44 AM
If we must be subjected to Black History month each year we shuld be allowed some White History as well. It is not the Confederate Flag that should be hated. Slaves came to this country on trading vessels bearing the United States flag!
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