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Forum: To fix tax pain, cut spending

Residents blame local governments for their property tax problems.

By ALEX LEARY
Published February 16, 2007


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Linda Hayward of Brooksville speaks during Thursday's hearing. "Local governments have become incredibly greedy,'' she says.
[Times photo: John Pendygraft]
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TAMPA - The anger burned slow during a property tax hearing Thursday night at Hillsborough Community College. Few shouted or pounded their fists. No one taunted the lawmakers before them.

But speaker after speaker, dozens in all, delivered a central, unmistakable point: Government spending is out of control.

"Please don't just patch the system," implored Linda Hayward, 48, of Brooksville. "The real problem is local governments have become incredibly greedy and stolen our money."

Her words brought applause from the more than 200 west-central Florida residents attending the hearing, which was called by the Legislature to collect ideas to address soaring property taxes.

"We need to tell the local governments that are getting fat off our backs that they can't have our money any more," said David McKalip of St. Petersburg, organizer of the citizen group Cut Taxes Now, which advocates a spending cap on government.

In the past six years, property tax levies have doubled to $30-billion, far outpacing population and personal income growth.

"We all thank Gov. (Charlie) Crist for starting the debate," McKalip said. "But it's not enough."

Crist recently proposed doubling the homestead exemption to $50,000, making the 3 percent Save Our Homes cap on annual assessments transferable to new homes and extending the cap to businesses, second homes and other nonhomesteaded property.

Those ideas have many supporters and would save them billions of dollars. People who benefit from Save Our Homes say they feel trapped in their homes because moving to even a smaller dwelling could result in substantially higher taxes. Portability would help them greatly.

But each of Crist's proposals has the downside of perpetuating inequities or creating new ones. Portability, for example, wouldn't address the tax rates for new Florida residents.

Many view a cap on government spending or taxes as a fairer solution.

"The Legislature must act because local officials cannot do it and will not do it," said Carl Mathews, 72, of South Tampa.

This month, Hillsborough County became the first government entity to agree to rein in spending with a cap. Hillsborough commissioners voted to tie their own yearly spending increases to population growth and inflation.

Few other cities and counties are expected to follow Hillsborough's example voluntarily.

Sen. Mike Haridopolos, R-Melbourne, said the government cap has been a major theme at other tax hearings across the state.

"Governments need to go on a diet," Haridopolos said.

Manatee County Commissioner Jane von Hahmann defended local spending, saying it is often driven by state mandates, including a need to meet the communities legal needs with a new judicial center.

"We didn't frivolously spend those dollars," she said.

Though the emotion was generally restrained, people who turned out carried plenty of pain.

Maggie Jackson said she was recently divorced and was forced to move. To keep her daughter, Jennica, in the same school district, she found a home in Odessa.

Doing so resulted in an 80 percent higher tax bill, she said. Now Jackson is not sure she can stay. "I lost my cap. It's just not fair," Jackson said, on the verge of tears.

David Miesch of Hernando County supported Crist's idea of portability. Miesch said two years ago the state took his west Tampa home through eminent domain to expand Interstate 275.

He was paid for his home but, in moving, lost his cap and now pays two-thirds more in property taxes for a smaller place. "I'm extremely bitter," Miesch said.

Jean and Jim Overby, 20-year residents of Treasure Island, said they want to move to a smaller home but cannot because the taxes would be too much due to the loss of Save Our Homes protection.

"It's actually made us think seriously about moving back to Virginia," said Jim Overby, 66.

They, too, would benefit from portability. But that's not the answer to the problem, Overby said, adding he would prefer a standard assessment for all property.

Pierre Mathurin, 45, of Tampa was one of few voices calling for caution. He said rushing to cut taxes in the short term could cause long-term problems, including cutbacks in essential local services.

Taxes are necessary, he said.

As he returned to his seat, a few people quietly booed him. "Pay my tax bill," a woman called out.

It was a rare break from decorum in a meeting that lasted four hours.

State Sen. Victor Crist, R-Tampa, said the forum would last as long as it took. He ordered pizza for the panel of lawmakers, "so we don't pass out."

Someone in the crowd yelled, "Victor, did you order some for us?"

No, he said.

"I only had 60 bucks in my pocket. I had to pay my taxes."

[Last modified February 16, 2007, 00:51:42]


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by jean 02/20/07 05:49 PM
Great story, the person is right the local governments are spending out of control for salaries,pensions,& medical and projects. Where can you retire with same salaries & full medical other than government?
by grimy 02/18/07 08:46 AM
35 years I have paid taxes on my house ... now you paided for 2 and want to rase mine? GO BACK NORTH since you paid less taxes there and take your state and home tax ideas with you
by jeff 02/17/07 12:09 AM
The only relatively fair way to assess property taxes is for government to first establish reasonable budgets and then base tax rates on a percentage of the fair market value of the property. That percentage should only be enough to cover the budget.
by John 02/16/07 07:31 PM
I wrote to the Pinellas commissioners three years ago warning them of the inequities and asking them to spend only what was necessary. Only John Morroni answered, this year. Why do we continue to elect these fools?
by Brian 02/16/07 05:02 PM
Besides being inequitalbe and grossly unfair the SOH program is a narcotic that produces disinterest in most residents. This lack of interest and engagement over time has allowed the politicians to go unchecked until it lead to this crisis.
by Skid 02/16/07 03:47 PM
This is a local issue with spending CAPS that are needed. Mayor Baker and the county have to be pulled back or our children will not be able to live in St Pete. STOP THE MADNESS!
by John 02/16/07 02:52 PM
City Councils & County Commissioners made it attractive for developers by not forcing them to pay for all of the improvements required prior to building and in turn use tax revenue to pay for the improvements while claiming that they need more money!
by Jim 02/16/07 02:36 PM
Local spending out of control. Caps have to put in place. Pinellas County's budget is up 60% to over $800 million in two years (i.e. 2004-2006). Time for responsible government and cost cutting!
by Charlie 02/16/07 02:20 PM
Wouldn't have a state tax solve Florida's problems?
by John 02/16/07 01:56 PM
I agree with Jeff - why should I be penalized with higher taxes just because I just moved to the area? I'm receiving the same services as my neighbor who is paying less than half the taxes but is living in a bigger house. The burden should be shared
by Jeff 02/16/07 01:12 PM
Tax equity is what is needed. I pay double and triple what some of my neighbors pay simply because I bought my house this year, so it cost more for the exact same house. One solution would be set a fair per sq ft tax and exempt the elderly and poor.
by Sue 02/16/07 12:01 PM
I was going to buy a house, but now I'm going to keep renting until I move out of Florida.
by anthony 02/16/07 11:23 AM
Here's another economy: reduce park maintenance by 25% and look to volunteers - scouts,, chuch organisations- and users to keep them clean. Impose user fees for large gatherings. Charge for parking at beaches. Other ideas will come to mind among
by anthony 02/16/07 11:19 AM
Revert to spending levels of 2000 and prohibit any additional spending above those amounts. Phase out all exemptions and caps. Starve the beast of local government. Economies can be made, eg, reduce the number of police hiding along the roads.
by Anthony 02/16/07 11:15 AM
Please, let;s not fall for that canard of "essential local services". Economies can/will be found: eg, My local library is now open 5 evenings a week and Saturday, as are a few others within a 10 mile radius. Just leave one open at night on a rota.
by Holly 02/16/07 10:49 AM
Raising the homestead exemption only takes MORE people out of the tax loop and portablitiy is not the answer either. Governor Crist: Get a sharp economist mind on this complex promblem NOW!
by Rich 02/16/07 09:46 AM
People forget that we don't have a state income tax. In order to receive public services, you have to pay taxes! There just has to be more equality in how property taxes are assessed.
by Larry 02/16/07 08:48 AM
Local government is out of control. Just look at St. Pete. Mayor Baker gets all these kudos but the fact of the matter is he has spent money like a drunken sailor on shore leave. It is maddening. Constitutional amendment to cap local spending.
by Scott 02/16/07 08:34 AM
Any politician who suggests they don't vote to spend money frivolously needs a reality check. I'm not classic libertarian but my feeling is Gov't should be cut dramatically, like back to 2002 levels and freeze them there...
by Belinda 02/16/07 08:32 AM
Why does this story talk in past tense? "Shelby loved Pepper. Shelby loved lots of animals. She wanted to be a veterinarian." Did Shelby and her pets die?
by Tammy 02/16/07 04:41 AM
Stop spending over a trillion dollars on Iraq and restore the federal cuts to funding local services that need to be made up with property taxes.The last set of war funds alone would have run all Florida for 3-5 years. Roads,schools etc suffer.
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