St. Petersburg Times
Special report
Video report
  • For their own good
    Fifty years ago, they were screwed-up kids sent to the Florida School for Boys to be straightened out. But now they are screwed-up men, scarred by the whippings they endured. Read the story and see a video and portrait gallery.
  • More video reports
Multimedia report
Print Email this storyEmail story Comment Email editor
Fill out this form to email this article to a friend
Your name Your email
Friend's name Friend's email
Your message
 

Politics

Rubio tries to sell tax change

But his comments on a radio show rub some the wrong way.

By ALEX LEARY
Published February 27, 2007


ADVERTISEMENT

photo
[AP Photo]
House Speaker Marco Rubio embarked Monday morning on a two-day tour to spread the word about his plan to abolish property taxes.

House Speaker Marco Rubio embarked Monday morning on a two-day tour to spread the word about his plan to abolish property taxes.

But things went awry even before he left Miami.

Stuck in traffic, Rubio called a radio show and talked about the proposal to eliminate all property taxes on homestead property in favor of a 2.5 percent sales tax increase. Doing so would save taxpayers nearly $6-billion, but would take away that much from local governments.

Some argue the plan gives the greatest benefit to those who can most afford to pay: wealthy homeowners.

Rubio provided a different take. Speaking from his cell phone, the Miami Republican found himself explaining, and passionately defending, the trickle-down effect on the working class.

He offered himself as an expert, telling listeners that his father worked as a bartender and mother as a casino maid.

"I was raised on other people's leftover money," Rubio, 35, said on the Jim DeFede Show, whose station WINZ-AM 940 identifies itself as the "resource for progressive talk radio." "When people spent their money, they spent it in the places where my parents worked."

He went on: "And I'm telling you that this property tax cut will create $6-billion in disposable income. And what that means in real terms is that people who now mow their lawns will hire someone to do it. ... People who now maintain their own pools will hire someone to do it. ... And that helps the working class. ...

"The more disposable income there is, the faster the working class can join, can grow into the ranks of home ownership, can send their kids to college, etc. I know. I was raised on disposable income."

Callers talk back on trickle down

For some, his remarks stung.

"The working people are what built this country," said a caller named Cliff. "We didn't live off handouts, which is what he's suggesting. ... It's a typical Republican (attitude), looking down their noses at the average guy."

Robert, another caller, took issue with increasing the sales tax.

"Most working-class people are just struggling to survive and their solution is the most regressive form of tax there is? This is unbelievable. Trickle-down economics was disproven. ... I work my tail off every day just to make ends meet, and if they raise the sales tax, that's going to be coming directly out of every little bit that I earn. It's just going to make it even more expensive to live here, not less."

Rubio was no longer on the phone at that point, but he called back. He was still in traffic, trying to get to the airport so he could meet with newspaper editorial boards in St. Petersburg and Tampa.

"I never said that people live off the handouts," Rubio said. He said what he meant was the working class depends disproportionately on the disposable income of others.

"And there is no denying that." A lawyer who reported earning $300,000 in 2005, Rubio said he still considered himself part of the working class.

But even as Rubio aimed to set the record straight, his comments were called into question. Opponents immediately pegged Rubio's philosophy as supply-side economics, made famous by President Ronald Reagan, which argues that helping upper-income brackets and businesses increase their wealth ultimately helps lower-income workers.

"I always thought trickle-down economics was kind of like the trickle down that a dog does to a lamppost," said state Sen. Steve Geller, D-Hallandale Beach.

"It's also going to trickle down to Mercedes dealers," said Jonathan Hamilton, chairman of the University of Florida's economics department. "Maybe Mr. Rubio has a very well-calculated story about where people are going to spend their tax savings. But to say they'll spend it on low-income workers is a stretch."

Income tax is fairer way to tax, he says

Rubio contends that the property tax is more regressive than the sales tax - a point he made before the St. Petersburg Times editorial board. A person can lose his job, he said, but the property taxes may keep increasing with higher property values.

"I'm not in favor of it, but an income tax is a fairer way to tax than a property tax," Rubio said. "There's a lot of working-class people that own homes and are being punished by the property taxes. There's a lot of working-class people that could own homes, but for the property tax."

Having experienced a bumpy day on the road, the speaker continues his meetings with editorial boards today.

[Last modified February 27, 2007, 12:24:06]


Share your thoughts on this story

Comments on this article
by Jung 03/02/07 05:37 PM
This proposal is wonderful. Floridians should not be taxes out of their homes. Everyone needs to pay including renters, tourists, illegals, ect.. They use services like everyone else. A recent poll shows 67% of respondents favor the sales tax idea
by pc 02/28/07 01:29 AM
Take a drive through a lower class area a see the astonishing # OF HIGH END CARS IN FRONT OF DISREPAIRED HOMES. RICH WILL SPEND TO MAINTAIN LIFESTYLE, POOR WILL SAVE TO BETTER THEIRS. GOES FOR TOURISM TO CIGARETS. LIVE THE AMERICAN DREAM, VOTE YES
by PC 02/28/07 01:18 AM
What about the billions in excess of the norm over the past 5 yrs thats been collected, that is allocated were? Politicians pockets is were. And further more 25000H.E. is so minute its unnoticed come time to write the check. Vote yes, at this point.
by PC 02/28/07 01:08 AM
What about the billions in excess of the norm over the past 5 yrs thats been collected, that is allocated were? Politicians pockets is were. And further more 25000H.E. is so minute its unnoticed come time to write the check. Vote yes, at this point.
by PC 02/28/07 01:07 AM
I own a home in the high 300's, pay 5671.34 to be exact.I happen to own 2 investment properties. I read nothing as of yet as to how this plan will affect a home that is not homesteaded? taxing big ticket items sounds good.im blue collar by the way!!
by Lisa 02/27/07 10:59 PM
Property tax is not the real issue. What should be considered is the funding that takes place for each City, will be cut drastically. Are you ready for emergency services to take hours rather than minute. Parks and services for cities will suffer
by Paul 02/27/07 09:41 PM
If the House doesn't include the sales tax on more services to offset the negative financial impact upon lower and middle income folks by increasing the sales tax on goods, then I'm against the proposal.
by Sal 02/27/07 09:32 PM
I do see this plan as a tax shift to renters and tourists. It will give the renters incentive to own a home and the tourists won't stop coming.
by LakelandPolitico 02/27/07 09:31 PM
An additional thought to ponder would be the ability of local communities to raise taxes in order to pay for services which they deem are necessary but the state does not, i.e. lightrail system. Also how would revenues be distributed, by Population?
by Paul 02/27/07 08:02 PM
The people who are to poor to own their own home get screwed. They pay no property tax now and still can't afford a home. Explain how INCREASING the sales tax they have to pay will help them. They live check to check & now will have less $ left over.
by Sonny 02/27/07 05:38 PM
We need to find a way to make everyone in this state legal or illegal to pay there fair share. so even if that means 12% so be it, I'm tired of paying for everybody else when I cant afford to even live in this great state.we need pride of ownership..
by Sally 02/27/07 05:35 PM
Sharon,will one day unless we dont take care of this have the american dream and be fortunate to afford your own home. We will never be able to retire even with the 3% save our homes.Pay your mortgage off and still owe a $1000 a month in taxes stinks
by Paul 02/27/07 05:21 PM
I enjoy my low property taxes on my homesteaded house. If you can't afford the taxes on a house, don't buy it. How can you get taxed out of a home? You look at the price, including taxes, and decide to buy it. You can't afford it, don't buy!!!
by Chris 02/27/07 05:06 PM
To Retired Economist: Where is there a "bonafide" published study? I agree the amount of lost revenue to local gov't is huge, but local gov't only had the excess funds because of spriraling taxes. It's called fiscal responsibility.
by Kay 02/27/07 04:47 PM
Trickle down economics does not work. The wealthy will invest the savings, not spend it. Those of us who rent will see zero savings and instead have less disposable income. I will drive every renter I know to the polls to vote NO.
by Retired Economist 02/27/07 04:39 PM
Rubio has evidently never taken Econ 101 and not served on a local govt commission. His proposal would be an economic disaster for this state--and a bonafide study of this suggestion said the sales tax would have to be 12% to compensate for lost rev
by Sharon 02/27/07 03:57 PM
Removing the property tax on homesteaded properties and raising the sales tax only benefits those fortunate enought to be able to own a home.
by Eric 02/27/07 03:42 PM
I would vote YEs for this. As well as everyone in my family. Promote buying homes, rather then renting. Gives people incentive to buy as well. Very nice point of view as well Ben.
by Richard Antolinez 02/27/07 02:03 PM
Marco Rubio sees the tranny of the Florida property tax system and doesn't agree with kicking people out of their homes because they can't pay the tax. My city just broke ground on a 400 million dollar project how does this help the poor?
by Chris 02/27/07 01:45 PM
Trickle down economics works at every level. The more disposable income a person has, the more they spend. That spending in turn paves the way for greater economic development including job growth & better employement opportunities.
by Dave 02/27/07 01:16 PM
I believe we should do away with all taxes and just have sales tax. Rich get Rich things pay a rich sales tax. Poor buy Poor things and pay a poor tax. Atleast everyone is getting taxed and sharing the burden . Not cheating there way thru the system.
by Ben 02/27/07 12:52 PM
How much of our money taxed or not goes to people who either collect tax or helps us not to pay taxes. How mant real dollars do we save by just not paying those guys. Sales tax ensnares everyone including illegals that pay ZERO now but instead take.
Subscribe to the Times
Click here for daily delivery
of the St. Petersburg Times.

Email Newsletters

ADVERTISEMENT