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Column

It's not a foreign country or whatever

By SUE CARLTON
Published February 28, 2007


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Is it the long bridges that separate us? The bay in between?

Why is it that side-by-side Hillsborough and Pinellas counties sometimes seem about as connected as Key West and Coeur d'Alene, Idaho?

Last week, Pinellas Park officials were talking about a plan for their police on horseback to work in Tampa if needed and vice versa, a sharing sort of thing. City Council member Patricia Bailey-Snook had a question.

"Are our law enforcement officers taking up Spanish or Cuban or whatever?" she wondered.

Cuban? Whatever?

And in case they didn't get her drift: "So they can talk to the public over there."

Over there?

Apparently oblivious to the lemon-faces on some of her colleagues, she kept going: "Because a lot of them will say that they don't speak English, but they do. But they'll just keep rattling off in Spanish and you can't get them to say a word in English."

Oh, that Tampa. That far-flung foreign nation where people who get stopped by police won't speak proper 'Merican English.

Surely Bailey-Snook, with her long career in local government and even a stint in the state House of Representatives, has a more sophisticated view of the big town across the pond.

Surely she knows about the cigar workers who came to Ybor City more than a century ago. Maybe she's heard about the Spanish and Cuban (and Italian) immigrant families who were part of the city's fabric, whose sons and daughters are among its judges and doctors and politicians.

Actually, I don't know what Bailey-Snook knows, because she didn't return my calls. She did tell Times reporter Anne Lindberg after the meeting she stood by what she said.

This seems like some serious smack-talk from a Pinellas town that bristles at its own redneck reputation. Residents there once took my Tampa columnist colleague Ernest Hooper to task for an unfortunate line involving an El Camino, a front yard and cement blocks. You get the visual.

Which brings me to something that has confounded me from the day I set foot in Tampa Bay. Wait, that's a body of water, not a place. We don't even have a phrase that unites us.

How can two places be so close and so far away?

Habit, says Jack Espinosa, Tampa native, retired sheriff's spokesman and comedian who is writing a book about Ybor called Cuban Bread Crumbs. Growing up, Clearwater Beach "was in Alaska," he says. A trip to St. Pete took three buses.

"Look at the map. France and England are next door," he said. "Tampa Bay has been the English Channel. The bridges have made no difference."

So here's an offer for the council member from Pinellas Park. Come on over sometime.

Maybe we can tour West Tampa and Ybor's historic cigar factories and glorious old clubs. We can have Cuban toast and cafe con leche (that's Spanish for "with leche"), and later maybe lunch on Cuban-Chinese. Probably we'll run into people with Spanish or Italian roots who speak with a Southern accent. "I call myself an Italian hillbilly," says former Tampa Mayor Dick Greco.

Greco told me he was sure Bailey-Snook hadn't intended anything ugly. Then he offered to come along as her guide for that Tampa tour. Because that's how they really do things on his side of the bay.

[Last modified February 28, 2007, 05:43:32]


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by Janice 03/24/07 11:27 PM
Speak Cuban? Holy Cow! Town & Country has a different vive but there are neighborhoods of diverse cultures in all the great cities in this LAND OF THE FREE - USA! I love this country! I'm of Cuban descent and Cubans speak SPANISH moron!
by Roger 03/01/07 08:15 AM
Sometimes it's easy to see why the state and federal governments have such low regard for local governments. Pinellas Park and Largo both should be put on probation for the stupid behavior of their leaders.
by art 02/28/07 11:14 PM
bet if Bailey-Snook spoke real loudly at "them folks",they would understand better....
by fedup 02/28/07 10:33 PM
I understand exactly where she is coming from. I work in Town and Country daily and I'm suprised that I don't need a visa. English is a dying language in the T&C enclaves. Go to walmart there sometime. "Press 1 for english" should not be an option.
by Harrison 02/28/07 10:11 PM
I'm sure that Patricia Bailey-Snook is proud of the fact she speaks American or whatever.
by Steve 02/28/07 05:54 PM
Pinellas Park- a hellhole populated by retards.
by Jason 02/28/07 05:39 PM
Most people in other countries speak more than one language, so we're behind the curve there. Doubt she meant any ill will w/her comment, however, it should have been phrased better. As a St.Pete native, I'm proud to say I cross the bridges 3 x a wk
by Alex 02/28/07 05:05 PM
I agree the name "Tampa Bay" isn't quite accurate, but what else can we use? And I hate the dual-city-name nomenclature that other areas use: Dallas-Ft Worth, Minneapolis-St Paul, etc. So Tampa-St Pete is out. I like "Tampa Bay", it's easy to use too
by Eileen 02/28/07 04:42 PM
Hey Commissioner Bailey-Snook! Are you saying that I need a passport to cross the Howard Franklin??
by John 02/28/07 04:02 PM
Taxes, police, home insurance, transsexual city managers getting the ax, government fraud, stock market dip, and this is what you choose to write about? You're insulted because some politician made a snide remark about your city? Esteem issues - hmm?
by eddie 02/28/07 03:26 PM
Patricia Bailey-Snook is a snob politician who should have paid attention in high school and college. That is if she even went to either. She needs a dose of reality, culture and sensitivity classes might help, but some bigots just don't get it.
by Jon 02/28/07 02:49 PM
I'm hopeful that Ms. Snook will be held accountable for her words. She certainly doesn't speak for me or any of my neighbors. Thanks for setting our city back another 20 years, Ms. Snook.
by Jeremy 02/28/07 02:16 PM
I can't believe that a man just lost his job with the city for being honest about his orientation, or desired one, and this hag gets a pass over a blatently stereotypical, nasty comment. ACT LIKE AN OFFICIAL, NOT AN OFFICIAL "A"HOLE!
by Trevor 02/28/07 01:50 PM
Conversely, would the Tampa cops have to change their name to Mounties and learn Canadian? "Hey hoser, slow down in your fancy snowmobile with wheels" Would they be required to leave their blinker on? What's the fine for leaving more than a 5% tip?
by Sid 02/28/07 01:28 PM
Wow. Who is claiming That? Ponce de Leon loocking for the Fountain of Youth?. Or the indians exiled to Florida?. Some peoble need to been remainded that the Spaniars exchenged the whole Florida for the City of Havana in the XVII century to the Brit
by John 02/28/07 12:55 PM
Another case of "foot-in-mouth" disease from a local politician who has no idea of TampaBay history. It is sad that people like this find soap boxes to propogate their backwards (lack of) agenda to divide and not unite. Pinellas residents be aware.
by Ed 02/28/07 12:23 PM
It shows one more time. That politicians like "Baily-Sneaky" need more culture and sensitivity training. She should and take a trip to Europe and learn about communications among people and countries. Of course the trip must paid out of her own pocke
by bobc 02/28/07 11:37 AM
learn English Go USA
by Mickster 02/28/07 09:37 AM
Did you really expect something intellegent out of a politician's mouth?You have a c average president, so pretty much anything goes now. Stupid is as stupid does sir!
by James 02/28/07 09:22 AM
One crude-minded individual on a council do not conclude the collective thoughts of an entire county or city. I give you the comment made sounds unintelligent and uninformed though your column sounds more like a rant than informative-get a blog.
by pat 02/28/07 09:05 AM
the saddest part of this article, is that the controversy was started over our police department, having to speak a foreign lnaguage.
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