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Times Forum parking fees may hit $30
The Lightning stands to benefit if Tampa officials go along with the mayor's proposal.
By JANET ZINK
Published February 28, 2007
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TAMPA - Patrons soon might need to bring along some extra cash for parking at big events at the St. Pete Times Forum. Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio wants to increase fees in city garages and parking lots from a maximum of $12 to $30. Much of that extra money would go to the owners of the Tampa Bay Lightning hockey team, which plays at the Times Forum. "This does provide the potential for more revenue going to the Lightning," said Darrell Smith, Iorio's chief of staff. The deal needs approval of the Tampa City Council, which is scheduled to discuss it March 15. The current special event parking rates at city facilities, in place since 2003, range from $5 to $12. The new rates would range from $2 to $30. "It's very realistic," Smith said. "It's all based on what the market will bear rather than arbitrary rates." Officials with Palace Sports & Entertainment, which owns the Lightning and operates the Times Forum, note that people pay up to $50 to park in private lots for soldout concerts. City and team officials are still working out how much various events will cost. "The circus will be much less than a soldout U2 concert," said Sean Henry, the team's chief operating officer. He said he "can guarantee" it won't cost $30 this year to park for a regular season hockey game. But the change will allow the team to plan several years in advance without having to ask for another increase, he said. City parking manager Jim Corbett said regular season hockey game parking would likely max out at $15. "If the Lightning advances to the second-round playoffs, it might be $20. If they're in the championship, it might be $25," he said. Smith said lowering the minimum parking fee will allow cheaper rates for charitable and community events, such as the Gasparilla Festival of the Arts. The city operates about 10 lots and garages near the arena. Prices vary based on location and event. The most popular spots cost $12 for hockey games but can be as low as $5. Parking cost $12 at every facility for the soldout U2 concert in October 2005. Some aren't so sure the market will bear such an increase. "This isn't Manhattan," said Pamela Reeder, who attends concerts and hockey games. "Hockey tickets are already expensive." Lightning officials have been trying for years to get more parking revenue generated during events at the Times Forum, saying they need money to make upgrades to the arena. Iorio previously balked at the idea but in April began discussing options with the team. A 12-year-old parking agreement with the Lightning gives the team a cut of parking money if it tops $750,000, which is the city's annual debt payment for a garage next to the Times Forum. Last year for the first time, revenues passed $750,000, said city finance director Bonnie Wise. The Lightning got $853. The team also gets parking money based on attendance at the arena, an arrangement that has netted the team up to $420,000 a year. The parking agreement does not allow the Lightning to collect more than $1.5-million in parking revenue from the city in any fiscal year, Wise said. The team last year also made about $500,000 from its own parking lots. Henry said most professional hockey and basketball teams earn $5-million to $9-million annually in parking revenues. Prime parking for Bucs games at Raymond James Stadium costs $25. Florida Panthers fans paid $20 to park in the most expensive spots last year, but it will now be rolled into the cost of tickets. Meanwhile, lobbyists for the Lightning are pushing for state legislation that would give the team and other professional teams in Florida $2-million annual tax breaks for 30 years. The money could go only to sports facility improvements. Hillsborough County commissioners agreed last summer to spend up to $35-million in future tourist tax dollars for renovations at the Times Forum. The city's parking offer marks a significant shift in relations between Iorio and the Lightning. She resisted giving the team more parking revenue, and last year was caught off guard when her $5.5-million request for state money for the Riverwalk appeared on the Legislature's budget as $3-million; the balance was earmarked for a parking garage for the Lightning under a Riverwalk label. Gov. Jeb Bush vetoed both requests. Now, Lightning officials are helping the city lobby for money for the Riverwalk, which passes by the Times Forum. It's not a closely coordinated effort, said Smith, Iorio's chief of staff. "It's just whenever they have the opportunity to promote the Riverwalk as a key project for the city they are doing that," he said. Times staff writer Jonathan Milton contributed to this report. Janet Zink can be reached at jzink@sptimes.com or 813 226-3401.
[Last modified February 28, 2007, 11:12:05]
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by jody
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03/20/07 08:02 AM
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Since our team won the cup, I haven't been able to afford tickets. I used to be able to go four or five times a year. Now with increase in gas it forces me into the $20 to $40 seats. Now, Pam, you expect me to pay more to park than my ticket costs?
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by Brad
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03/05/07 09:30 AM
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What "guarantees" are in place to make sure the Lightning don't move to the $30 figure immediately and then want another increase in two years? Why is the City paying the team anything for parking? Let them build and operate their own lots.
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by Dino
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03/04/07 05:41 PM
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First Greco with the Glazers,now Iorio with Davidson.Why should the public pay for the incompetent decision of high player salaries?What a joke!!!This is GREED!!! I have supported the Bolts since day one,just as with the Bucs,now I'm won't!!
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by Pat
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03/04/07 01:23 AM
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If I have to pay $30.00 to park i will sell my 6 season tickets and will encourage others to do the same
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by Sue
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02/28/07 05:19 PM
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So the parking revenue is going to the Lightning? And they also are pushing for tax breaks for 30 years? Man, I'm going to start my own sports team! Forget about helping the poor, the sick, the homeless, I want money!!
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by Chris
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02/28/07 04:51 PM
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Raise the parking fees and I *guarantee* I'll never attend another event in Tampa. Too many cheaper alternatives.
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by GEorgia
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02/28/07 04:15 PM
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Cancel me out on any more events at the St Pete Forum. This is highway robbery on the part of the Lighning and City of Tampa. Shame on you Pam Iorio
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by Kathy
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02/28/07 02:26 PM
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I refuse to pay more for parking than for my game ticket as STH. If this increase takes effect it will STOP ME FROM RENEWING MY LIGHTNING SEASON TICKETS. With a limited budget already stretched to the max w increased ticket prices I have no choice.
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by RCC
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02/28/07 01:30 PM
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I agree with the comments here. I already can't afford to be a 1/2 season ticket holder! Now I'll have to be a 1/4 season (or less) ticket holder. Add the traffic, tolls, parking and food-I might as well forget it. I'll stay home and watch it on tv!
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by Paul
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02/28/07 12:36 PM
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Good time to start up a bus service that will pick people up at various locations and drop them off at the Trop then return them after the game. Charge a lot less than $30/head and they wouldn't have to worry about DUI. Parking garages get zilch !!
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by Kelly
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02/28/07 12:27 PM
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No Way! I'm a half season ticket package holder. That's 20 games X $30. $600 on top of $450 for tickets? Add gas and $2.50 X 20 for x-town tolls. Forget it. The arenas already empty for Mon.-Thurs night games. What are they thinking?
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by e
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02/28/07 11:24 AM
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Well, I will simply refuse to attend any more events there based on principle. It already costs too much to live here and now you are going to jack us with $30 parking fees????
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by john
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02/28/07 10:50 AM
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are you kidding me? no games for me
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by Jim
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02/28/07 09:26 AM
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It is getting so you can't even take your family to a hockey game unless you are rich. They are taking the fun out of the sport by just making more money off a team. They make enough money now with prices of tickets and merchandise. what a joke!
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by Robert
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02/28/07 09:13 AM
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Thanks Pam...Just one more reason to avoid TAMPA.
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by Rebecca
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02/28/07 09:03 AM
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This is stupid. The city is always crying that people don't frequent downtown, well if they keep trying to jack up prices less people will attend events. I just received my Lightning ticket renewal packet. I am now mad and less likely to renew.
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by Cheryl
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02/28/07 08:55 AM
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Are you kidding? This is why the average fan cannot attend these games, parking costs more than the game ticket! At those rates I'll stay home and watch it on TV. If the mayor thinks this will bring money into downtown, she is sadly mistaken!
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by sean
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02/28/07 08:54 AM
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If parking becomes $30, you will lose many fans. Folks are not going to come to game after game, concert after concert at those parking rates. RIDICULOUS!
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by Tammy
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02/28/07 08:03 AM
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Insane!There should be less expensive parking near the arena not higher. Using an auto is the only way to get within walking distance of the arena,PAC, convention center or other downtown venues. $20 to park means kiss downtown events goodbye for us.
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