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For many, little drop in insurance
The two largest insurers have relatively cheap reinsurance, so there will be less savings to pass along.
By Tom Zucco, Times Staff Writer
Published March 3, 2007
Nearly half of the homeowners in Florida who have property insurance will see rate reductions that could be less than a third of what the state outlined Thursday. Regulators reported that homeowners' premiums statewide would be cut 24.3 percent on average thanks to Florida's new insurance law. But the state's two largest property insurers, Citizens Property Insurance and State Farm Florida, confirmed Friday their savings will likely be far more modest. For State Farm, it could be a statewide average 7 percent savings, and for state-backed Citizens, it could be an 8- to 10-percent savings. With about 2.5-million of the state's 5.9-million policyholders, Citizens and State Farm comprise about 42 percent of the property insurance market in the state. The reason for the smaller savings largely has to do with the amount of backup coverage, or reinsurance, that Citizens and State Farm buy. By allowing companies to buy more of the cheaper reinsurance from the state, the Legislature mandated the savings be passed on to policyholders. State regulators say that translates to a statewide average 24.3 percent savings. But Citizens only buys reinsurance from the state, so there are no corresponding private reinsurance costs to negate. What's more, its customers are already enjoying a rate rollback, effectively freezing 2007 rates at 2005 levels. "If this rate reduction is for companies that buy reinsurance in the private market," said Citizens spokesman Rocky Scott, "then we're pretty much sitting this one out." State Farm officials say the overall savings for their customers will be small because the company already gets cheaper reinsurance - about 75 percent of its total - from its parent company. "Nothing changed for us," State Farm spokesman Justin Glover said Friday. "We're already getting a bargain on reinsurance from our parent company, and our customers are already seeing the benefit of that." Regardless of where they buy their reinsurance, State Farm and Citizens are still required to make a rate filing, "and show how much reinsurance they buy and where it comes from," said Jonathon Kees, a spokesman for the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation. Until the savings take effect, homeowners continue to dread the trip to the mailbox, where a rate hike might be waiting. For many, they'll have to wait until next year. The savings are effective only for policies that renew after June 1, so for a homeowner whose policy expires say, April 1, the savings won't take effect until April 1 of next year. Tom Zucco can be reached at zucco@sptimes.com or (727)893-8247.
[Last modified March 2, 2007, 22:19:30]
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by JACK D
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08/13/07 08:08 AM
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HOMEOWNERS INS INCREASE FROM 1262.00 TO 2789.60 WHY
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by Peter
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03/26/07 04:22 PM
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Going down is not what happened with my insurance. Our mortgage last year was $1000, now it went up with $200. Is there some body to explain why Sate Farm is rising the rate ?
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by Bob
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03/04/07 11:25 AM
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When my kids are out of the house, I will be packing for another state..Georgia, So.Carolina..I am tired of Florida and its insurance, property taxes,homeless problem in the city, etc. Its time for a change..been here since 1972.
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by EC
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03/03/07 08:34 PM
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Am I reading incorrectly that the reduction will apply to the wind portion only of a homeowners policy? People that live on the beaches have wind excluded from their homeowners policies and must purchase a separate windstorm policy.Where is link?
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by JimBob
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03/03/07 06:22 PM
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I just hope that Florida doesn't get hit with any hurricanes soon. I don't want my federal tax money wasted bailing out a bankrupt state because it didn't understand how to diversify risk.
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by laura
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03/03/07 06:17 PM
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So why was the bill I received last week 50% higher than the rate I paid last year? Which in turn was more than double whet I paid in 2005?
Neither State Farm nor Cicizens insure me, but they are spot on in saying "Nothing changed for us."
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by Herb
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03/03/07 05:24 PM
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All The BS going on, but never the bottom line.I paid $4,000.00 Plus last Sept{0ne year} what do I get back?
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by Bob
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03/03/07 02:49 PM
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With the more benign conditions of last years El Nino morphing to not-so-desirable La Nina this coming hurricane season, this insurance plan has all the fingerprints of a financial debacle just waiting to happen. Enjoy the "savings" while it lasts.
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by Earl
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03/03/07 02:29 PM
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Looks like a lot of people will go with out insurance.
Lets all take a chance for i Yr. and see what happens.
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by Jim
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03/03/07 02:23 PM
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2005 premium: (private insurance co, 672 sq ft masonry Non-Evac Zone home) $360. 2006: $800. Policy non-renewed. Citizens only option: Two quotes as of March 2, 2006: $1400 or $1700. This is Citizen's "competitive" rates?
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by nancy
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03/03/07 02:17 PM
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its really just games the companies play, 30.5% drop except for citizens and state farm costomers. figures, more bs and games, all we will every see.
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by CJ
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03/03/07 01:59 PM
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Write,email to Alex Sink, FL CFO. Ask for multi-state catastrophe fund; eliminate FL only subsidiaries; then roll back rates to 2004; fire and replace any official in Office of Insur Reg. caught trying to "exempt" special interets to our detriment.
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by JOHN
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03/03/07 01:34 PM
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BOTTOM LINE WE ARE STILL GETTING STUCK WITH AN OUTRAGEOUS INCREASE AND A WHOLE LOT OF DOUBLE TALK FROM CRIST. I'M SURE THEY ARE LAYING LOW TO GIVE US TIME TO ADJUST TO THE RATES AS THE OIL COMPANIES HAVE DONE. SUCKS TO BE US. GOODBYE AMERICAN DREAM.
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by john
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03/03/07 12:22 PM
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did you really think government would help the middle class
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by Glenn
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03/03/07 12:18 PM
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My current rate is 4 times more than 2005. Citizens will build me a new home before they revert back to that. This is obviously a word game. Depends on what the definition of "is", is, maybe. Favorite color here is probably "plaid".
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by colleen
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03/03/07 11:32 AM
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how is it possible that 33708 the beach gets a 35% reduction and st.pete 25% the beaches will be gone in a direct hit from a hurricane. the rich?
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by Sharon
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03/03/07 11:31 AM
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How can Citizen's say that we are sitting at 2005 prices in 2007? Our insurance doubled! Where is the savings? I talk to friends who have insurance from other companies and they are getting more reduction! The state needs to listen to the people!!!
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by Roger
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03/03/07 11:29 AM
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I am reading the bad news for Florida homeowners again since I have State Farm Insurance. I got a 25% increase from last year in Feb that goes into effect May 25th. I miss the June 1st decrease by 6 days. So much for my decrease.
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by bonnie
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03/03/07 11:01 AM
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Remember years ago when all those hurricanes hit the Carolinas? Why is their insurance a lot cheaper than ours? Whose pocket are we padding? We don't have anyone looking out for us. Oil and insurance companies run the U.S.
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by adam
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03/03/07 10:45 AM
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Terry, People in south florida should be paying the lions share of Hurricane converage they are in the "alley". Citizens is having ins. these homes because private ins. donsen't want the liaiblity. Just another reason to form a cooperative!
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by adam
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03/03/07 10:31 AM
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We need to get rid of private ins. It is time to form a state cooperative that would allow the state to enjoy all the benefits of profit making in these times, and not act like carpet baggers when people need help.
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by bonnie
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03/03/07 10:05 AM
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This does not surprise any of us. I manage a storage company, and I am watching my clients vacate in droves.They have had enough of Fl. they can't afford it.We may have 1000 people a day entering fl, but I believe we have 2000 per day leaving.
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by Terry
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03/03/07 10:03 AM
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With central and south Fl turning into a vacation retreat for the wealthy ,the possibilty of normal relations with Cuba in the forseeable future for low cost labor why not free up some land from the poor for those McMansions to be built on
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by Terry
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03/03/07 09:54 AM
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Think about this,these increases are only central and south Fl.north Fl. is still paying $700 to $800 a year.What a way to get rid of the poor and middle class land owners on prime property.Just look at the high end homes being built even now, no low
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by Terry
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03/03/07 09:41 AM
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The insurance co are gaining the reduction back plus extra.They are now charging an extra $700 if your home is over 20 yrs old.Plus excluded,mold,medicine& food loss from power failure,hail,sinkhol,dryrot any wood eating insectWe have a fire onlynow
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by Terry
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03/03/07 09:38 AM
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If all this increase is due to hurricane fears not reality why dosen't Fl. price gougeing laws come into affect?If you add in new charges,20yr old home surcharge plus dropped coverage its closer to 80%.
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by Terry
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03/03/07 09:19 AM
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We are only seeing a reduction in the dwelling coverage the other coverages such as personnel property is going up Also some things that used to be covered are not food spoiled from power failure the failure has to be on your property not at the pole
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by JT
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03/03/07 09:08 AM
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So,if State Farm had cheaper reinsurance all along why were they charging so damn much? Sounds like gouging to me. Private market has failed. We need a state run mutual and use our own cat fund reinsurance so rates decrease 50%.
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by Donald
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03/03/07 09:00 AM
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Left click on map above - left click and hold moving the slider upward - release - while mouse is on map left click and hold - move the mouse - it will move the map - then find your area - left click on the pointer - hope this helps.
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by Richard
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03/03/07 08:56 AM
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I hope our elected officials get off their duff and really do some work this legislative session. I truly believe that the great state of Florida is in decline due to our legislators not being proactive dealing with education, taxes and insurance.
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by Susan
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03/03/07 08:51 AM
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I found all the zip codes but mine,
33709
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by james
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03/03/07 08:29 AM
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where do i find my zip code
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by chip
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03/03/07 08:07 AM
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so... where is the link to check my zip code?
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by jack
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03/03/07 06:16 AM
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shocker...
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by erick
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03/02/07 11:16 PM
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When a company can raise insurance 60% in one year and the customer is a 74 yrold veteran w/no claims in over 20years and price him out of his house of over 40 years is that not a crime?
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