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Politics

Survey: Largo unfair to Stanton

By LORRI HELFAND and JOSE CARDENAS
Published March 3, 2007


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A majority of adults in Largo and Pinellas County say the Largo City Commission was wrong to move to fire City Manager Steve Stanton this week, a St. Petersburg Times survey has found.

Most of the 601 residents surveyed also said the City Commission acted too quickly to fire Stanton on Tuesday night.

"The fact that he was a transsexual and planning to have surgery had nothing to do with his brain," said retired teacher Clifford Aldrich, 69, of Largo, who watched the meeting on television. "I saw an awful lot of intolerance and prejudice among the people in the audience, and it rubbed off on the commission."

Moreover, four out of five residents said they would accept a boss or someone they supervised who had a sex-change operation.

On Friday, Stanton said the responses did not surprise him.

"It's absolutely consistent with what I believed before I put my career on the line," he said.

The survey results stood in contrast to what Largo commissioners heard before their vote. E-mails from Largo residents ran 7-to-1 against Stanton before the vote. During a dramatic and emotional meeting Tuesday night, a more narrow majority of Largo residents also supported his firing.

Communications Center Inc. of Lakeland conducted the survey for the Times Wednesday and Thursday. The company interviewed 263 Largo residents and 338 residents elsewhere in Pinellas.

Only 25 percent of Largo residents and 20 percent of residents in other Pinellas communities said the commission did the right thing when it put Stanton on paid leave in preparation for firing him.

Asked an open-ended question on why they thought the commission did the right thing, Largo respondents who supported the firing most often said they disapproved of the sex change, thought it would disrupt the workplace and felt it was immoral, perverted or sinful.

While those saying they think it was wrong to fire Stanton are in the majority, the edge is slight - barely more than 50 percent. But opposition to the firing is much stronger among women, liberals and non-churchgoers.

Sixty-eight percent of those who said they haven't attended religious services in the past month think the firing was wrong. Among liberals, 85 percent oppose the firing, compared with 39 percent of conservatives. Six in 10 women think it was wrong, compared with four in 10 men.

Asked why they opposed the firing, nearly a third of Largo residents who felt the commission did the wrong thing said the action was discriminatory. The next most-cited reasons were that Stanton has done a good job and is being railroaded.

Pinellas residents also voiced overwhelming acceptance for transgendered people in the workplace, public or private sector.

Eighty percent say they could work for a person who has had sex-change surgery. The same number - eight in 10 - say they would agree to supervise an employee who had a sex change.

Most respondents inside and outside Largo said the City Commission should have studied the issue more before voting.

Stanton, 48, has been Largo city manager for 14 years. The special meeting to fire him was convened a week after he disclosed his plans to become a woman. He is exploring whether to ask for a public hearing to appeal his termination.

There also is support among Pinellas adults for a public official to make the kind of transition Stanton plans.

Nearly three-fourths of Pinellas adults say a public official who has a sex change has the right to stay in their job. In Largo support is slightly lower, but still solid: 68 percent.

Women and non-churchgoers are especially supportive. More than eight of 10 in each group think the official has the right to continue working.

Stanton's staunchest public supporter, Largo Mayor Pat Gerard, appears to have suffered little political damage over her backing for Stanton. Only 17 percent of Largo residents say they are less likely now to vote for her. Forty-five percent say they are more likely. Three in 10 say her stance makes no difference.

Among women, her support registers even higher. Fifty-five percent are more inclined to vote for her now compared to 30 percent of men.

"I'm glad that I'm representing the vast majority of my community and not just people who think like me," said Gerard, one of two commissioners who voted against firing Stanton.

"I would have handled it the same way anyway, but it's good to know the community is in the same place," Gerard said. "It speaks well of the future. We are the City of Progress after all."

The majority of commissioners who voted to begin the firing process said their choice had nothing to do with Stanton's choice to undergo sexual re-assignment surgery.

Commissioners Harriet Crozier and Mary Gray Black said they had been unhappy with his performance for a long time.

Crozier, who also had problems with how Stanton treated employees, said she saw a window of opportunity to remove him.

"Unless you've worked with the man behind the scenes for many years you don't know his management style," she said. "That's not the kind of city manager I would want."

Commissioner Gigi Arntzen said she didn't move to fire Stanton because he was transsexual. She did so because she lost confidence in him, she said.

"I'm extremely disappointed how he handled it and shared it with the mayor and did not share it with the other commissioners," Arntzen said.

[Last modified March 3, 2007, 07:17:59]


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by Ron 03/29/07 12:22 AM
All issues aside, this man needs to get stable and to heal emotionally and spiritually before he can effectively lead. I pray for his complete healing in ALL areas of his life.
by michael 03/24/07 09:02 PM
I support your decision to fire this person!
by Susan 03/24/07 11:17 AM
I have a dream one day people will not be judged by their sexual nature but by the content of their character.
by Ingrid 03/17/07 07:10 PM
Jim, life indeed is tough. I am not yet thirty and am expected to be disabled for life. I have contemplated suicide. I still have compassion for others, however. You should too.
by Ingrid 03/17/07 07:05 PM
This is not a gay rights issue. Mr. Stanton is a heterosexual female, and God made him that way. The GLBT community distinguishes among its gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender members because they have different needs.
by Ingrid 03/17/07 07:00 PM
Lisa, I beg to differ. Many heterosexual gender-straight people are supporting Steve's position. And a lot of them aren't even activists! They just don't run around carrying nasty signs. Who knows, you might even work with a few.
by Ingrid 03/17/07 06:55 PM
Jim&Jack: have you heard of this thing called statistics? People get PhDs to learn how to extrapolate data from a small polling group. Jay, what if Steve had labelled himself F on his application? You would have said he was crazy.
by Ron 03/17/07 05:27 PM
Prophetic or deja vu? "It's like wine," he said. "You can't drink it before its time. We weren't ready years ago. We should have been, but we are ready now and the time is right." Steve Stanton to Michael Sandler 02/24/02.
by Ron 03/16/07 08:58 AM
25 years ago Mr. Stanton would have been fired for being gay. 25 years hence his gender change would not draw comment. Women execs. have brought other dimensions to the business world. Susan Stanton may well bring completeness to his Office.
by Lisa 03/15/07 10:25 AM
Sorry Folks, most of the nation agrees with this firing. Only activists, transgenders, and homosexuals don't.
by seb 03/12/07 05:48 PM
I Say judge on his/her merits not on votes for elections. She should keep her job
by Mike 03/09/07 10:29 AM
Stanton may be the slickest politician ever. He's gotten the gay rights movement to make him their poster child. This is not a gay issue. His rule of Largo has been filled with corruption, He has treated many far worse than this council treated him.
by Risa 03/07/07 07:41 AM
I'm a government worker who transitioned last year after 57 years of trying not to. My family, all 150 of my fellow workers, and my fellow church members have been supportive. No bigots were harmed in the making of this woman. Lago: Matt. 12:7.
by Karen 03/06/07 02:20 PM
Best way to show support for Stanton is next election when we oust them all.
by Michelle 03/06/07 08:24 AM
This case goes to show the political agenda of fundamentalist christians. Using religion to justify bigotry and hatred is vile. I'm sure Fred Phelps will being sending all the council members a Christmas card this year.
by him 03/05/07 05:52 PM
Marilyn - It was my understanding Susan/Steve Stanton has not yet had surgery. The name change takes effect only AFTER the surgery. To Largo residents - please vote out these neanderthals on the Commission!
by CJones 03/05/07 02:25 PM
"Love thy neighbor". It's simple and was written without restrictions. Let's get God out of politics for there is no love from those who profess to know his will.
by Jim 03/05/07 09:49 AM
The survey conducted and how you refer to the City of Largo residents is misrepresented. You only surveyed around 268 Largo residents and you make the article appear as this is the how 68% of Largo residents feel. This is not a fair assesment.
by Jay 03/04/07 09:31 PM
Stanton said he knew from childhood he was a woman. That makes him a LIAR and DECEIVER to his family and the city who saw "M" on the job application. His contract didn't NEED any reason for dismissal though he gave them plenty. Bye, bye, lawsuit.
by Ralph 03/04/07 08:48 PM
Trying working for him. Ask the employees who are afraid to speak up. There are many employees that are not making judgements because of his sex change at all. They are making judgements because of how he treats others.
by Kari 03/04/07 08:23 PM
For those that seek it, a sex-change is a last resort - one generally has tried all other methods to avoid that doing that. One should show compassion to anyone that has cause to make such a life-changing decision. It is the only humane reaction.
by Jim 03/04/07 05:57 PM
Are transsexuals the only ones to consider suicide because of their difficult life? What about soldiers who come back from war without limbs, or sight? What about people ravaged with cancer? There are many who live difficult lives.
by Carol 03/04/07 04:50 PM
Government does not have a place dictating how a person should live his/her life. He has been a good city manager. Stop trying to be his/her judge.
by Mike 03/04/07 03:23 PM
It is hard to contemplate, let alone try to go through, what the former City Manager has been experiencing for an extended period of time. It is highly likely that it has, and would continue to effect job performance. This is not a religious issue.
by Jack 03/04/07 03:00 PM
A BS poll of <1 percent of Largo & who cares about the rest. IF he was fired for being transgender it might be unfair no poll needed. The Comm said why and He wasn't the stellar employee some have said. Stanton played his game & lost. byebye
by Mark 03/04/07 02:38 PM
I am shocked (as usual) at the lack of christian like behavior posted here by "Christians". It never ceases to amaze me how hateful my fellow Americans are.
by MaryBeth 03/04/07 12:31 PM
I too am a transsexual and working for a city government. Stanton has been a great employee for 14-years, the great job he/she does is what matters not what's between his/her legs! What happened to discrimination for race and sexual orientation?
by Pamela 03/04/07 12:22 PM
THis is not something one "choses" nor is it against God. WHere and what determines who God made us if not our brain. It is not deviant behaviour, and you hide it because of the intolerance and ignorance displayed by many commenting here.
by Marilyn 03/04/07 11:27 AM
I just read some of the comments posted concerning Susan (Steve) Stanton. For those who support her. You Should really stop calling her "Mr." It shows partial support and questionable understanding.
by Marilyn 03/04/07 11:20 AM
I absolutely agree with those who are in support of the reinstatement of SUSAN (Steve) Stanton. I also believe that the Clergy of our churches need to stop preaching prejudism and intolerance.
by Rachel 03/04/07 02:42 AM
Where is the sanity in all this? Christians tell you they believe in forgiveness and compassion but they have no problem persecuting people who are different than them. Perhaps once in this life you can stop the hate and try for once to love.
by GOD 03/04/07 01:56 AM
Please do not judge others in my name. Thus sayeth the Lord. Stanton shall enter the kingdom of heaven, Those who offer to the least of my bretheren, have helped me, the rest of you I'd like to see in my office.
by Vinny 03/03/07 07:39 PM
This survey illustrates how moderate the overall population is. Too bad not enough of you pay attention to who you vote into office or even vote at all.
by Lou 03/03/07 07:12 PM
I agree with Neil that Stanton should have waited and spared his teen-aged son the embarrassment. By not waiting 5 years he shows me he is not a selfless father. I'd love to meet his son in 5 years and see how screwed up he is (hopefully not too bad)
by James 03/03/07 06:14 PM
"I cringe at the intolerance, which reminds me of the days when black Americans were treated with the same hostile attitude! God Bless Steve! " UM, NO! not being satisfied in being what god made you is not the same as being black.. not even a little
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