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Politics

Flag hangs; group fumes

A Sons of Confederate Veterans group says the display is "tasteless."

By STEVE BOUSQUET
Published March 17, 2007


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An exhibit by artist John Sims on display at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science in Tallahassee is "extremely offensive," some say.

TALLAHASSEE - A Confederate flag hangs from a noose at a gallows in an art and science museum in Florida's capital city. The display's title: The Proper Way to Hang a Confederate Flag.

One of a dozen displays of Confederate flag art by political artist John Sims, it's part of an exhibit entitled AfroProvocations at the Mary Brogan Museum of Art and Science that opened as part of Black History Month in February.

And it's going to stay there, over the objections of a local Sons of Confederate Veterans group.

Robert Hurst, the leader of the local Sons of Confederate Veterans group, calls the display "tasteless and offensive," and demanded the museum remove it.

"That display is extremely offensive. It's very tasteless," Hurst said. "What they've told us, as Southerners, as sons of the Confederacy, is that it's okay to offend us. Apparently we don't matter. They're alienating a great deal of people in this area."

Friday, the museum's president and executive director called a press conference to say the display will stay.

Director Chucha Barber said the museum had no political agenda and was carrying out its mission.

"It is our mission to promote understanding of visual arts, science, mathematics and technology," Barber said.

Barber said every member of the Brogan's art exhibitions committee supported the display as appropriate, and that the works stimulated a dialogue in the community.

The display also includes Confederate flags arranged in a cross, a Confederate flag displayed above a voting machine and a restaging of Grant Wood's iconic American Gothic that shows a grim-faced Sims, arms crossed, standing next to a noose with the flag behind him.

The tax-assisted museum, named after the late wife of former Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan, released a letter from Hurst in which he said the display violates a state law that prohibits desecration of the Confederate flag.

Museum officials said the law allows exceptions for "decorative or patriotic" displays.

"John Sims falls into that category of 'artists' who, lacking true talent, must rely on gimmicks and controversy to keep the grants coming," Hurst wrote.

The display created controversy at Gettysburg College in Pennsylvania in 2004, but this is not the first time Sims' flag art has been displayed in Florida.

Last year, his noose was displayed at a Sarasota art gallery during a film festival.

Hurst said the museum was going out of its way to use his criticism to create publicity.

"What they want is controversy, and this is what they're going to create," Hurst said.

"This teaches contempt for not only the Confederate flag but for everything associated with it," Hurst said. "We still cherish our Southern heritage and history and culture."

Hurst, 60, is a native of Talladega, Ala., who moved to Tallahassee in the 1970s to attend graduate school at Florida State and stayed. A pharmacist, he ran the state's Medicaid drug program in the 1970s.

Hurst said his great-great-grandfather, John Henry Hurst, was a Confederate soldier from Clay County, Ala., who survived the war but committed suicide shortly afterward.

The amount of media interest in his single complaint surprised even Hurst.

"Why would ABC in New York be calling about this little thing in Tallahassee, Florida?" he asked Friday.

Steve Bousquet can be reached at bousquet@sptimes.com or (850) 224-7263.

[Last modified March 16, 2007, 22:51:57]


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by S. 04/25/07 03:37 PM
The biggest problem is when"artists"or others take something that they KNOW will offend groups of people and do it just for shock value. God forbid anyone opens a display during Black History month which possibly could be offensive to Afroamericans.
by S. 04/25/07 03:37 PM
This is all funny. If the south had won then this would all be about the stars and stripes now. Just because certian groups chose this flag as their symbol dosent define it, or give it negative meaning.
by Melissa 04/24/07 11:41 AM
I agree with your commments on this story and i stand by you 100%. I am a junior in high school and am doing a debate with a partner on the facts about the Civil War and other things. you can e mail me at melissachrstms@yahoo.com. loud and proud
by sean 03/25/07 03:54 PM
if the confederate flag represents hate and bigotry then rope(used in lynchings), and crosses(burned by kkk) should also be looked upon as such. for all you "history" buffs, go here http://history-sites.com/mb/cw/cwflags/.
by sean 03/25/07 03:53 PM
read this http://www.newconfederacy.com/confedcn.htm
by Scott 03/23/07 05:03 PM
The Confederate Flag is just an historical artifact, not a real flag of an actual country or place. It is, however, a rallying point for bitter, ignorant racists. The same people who hate political correctness, but demand it for themselves.
by David 03/23/07 01:40 PM
I love our Battle Flag,it is Flag that symbolizes our struggle for independence from the Northern States War of Agression.The problem is that our symbol of freedom has been hijacked by groups that have committed terrible acts of cruelty.I supportSims
by Mike 03/23/07 06:48 AM
decorative or patriotic? It is neither
by Bud 03/22/07 02:59 PM
Unless you're the Dukes of Hazzard and it's on top of your Dodge Charger, take the thing down. The Confederate flag is an homage to bigotry to just about every one I've ever known who owns one.
by mike 03/21/07 05:18 PM
Just a reminder to the non-history buffs. The Stars and Bars were never flown over any state capitol or any "slave" state, the Stars and Strips however, did. So would anyone mind if Stars and Strips went to the gallows?
by Bill 03/20/07 06:20 PM
This is not art, it is a punch in the gut. It is offensive. It violates the law. It dishonors veterans. It is sick. It is wrong. it must be dismantled immediately and a full apology must be made by the museum board. Take it down now!
by JW 03/20/07 10:18 AM
Funny how "traitor" is used but not one Confederate leader was tried for treason. Couldn't be, it might call into question the right of secession and expose Lincoln as the tyrant he was. You people really need a history lesson.
by JW 03/20/07 10:15 AM
Kyle says "a traitor flag" Secession is best summed up by Thomas Jefferson ""If any state in the Union will declare that it prefers separation ... to a continuance in the union .... I have no hesitation in saying, 'Let us separate.'"
by Al 03/20/07 08:52 AM
It's expressive. It's controversial. It's offensive. It's art. What's new?
by Veri 03/19/07 10:48 PM
I see it (the artwork) as a hopeful metaphor of someday learning from our history and supressing corruption (as such that this flag resulted from). True art communicates.
by AS 03/19/07 06:45 PM
It was a war for states rights! State Rights, you hear! I agree. I'm sure the southern elite of 1861 were just about to release all those slaves that formed 80% of their wealth. Yeah right...
by Ben 03/19/07 03:16 PM
You know what, I'm offended by things every day and it's part of life. in fact, I'm offended by people claiming to be offended. It's Offensive. When will we (americans) grow up and quit thinking everything is supposed to be perfect for us.
by Jon 03/19/07 03:13 PM
Billy writes: "Our Confederate ancestors are being dishonored by ignorant, rude, and hateful people." They were dishonored by the constitution they fought for.
by Jon 03/19/07 03:08 PM
The Civil War was not about state's rights. The slave states were the ones who insisted that the rights of free states be trampled, in the Fugitive Slave Act, forcing free states to enfore evil slave state laws.
by Kyle 03/19/07 03:08 PM
Whatever reason they fought the war over no longer matters because the facts still remain that the south left the union and then fought a war with them and the flag they flew stil is a traitor flag that will remain just that.... a traitor..
by Ben 03/19/07 02:57 PM
I just find it funny that if this was anywhere else it would be removed and considered offinsive, obviously "art" has different guidelines to follow.
by ed 03/19/07 01:05 PM
The only other way to display the flag of treason would be to fly it below the Stars and Stripes, in the subservient position it belongs in. God Bless the USA !
by Ken 03/19/07 10:37 AM
Why do people continually do things like this to inflame and divide people? What an idiotic thing to do, especially if you've got something to say that you want people to listen to. Jerk.
by PW 03/19/07 09:32 AM
Actually, the War Between the States was about tariffs and the federal government getting its cut...the feds didn't care about the slaves. As for this promoting debate, it seems more like the usual "did so, did not!" crap instead of informed talk.
by Richard 03/19/07 08:33 AM
Offensive is the only word for this "Art." My great grandfather fought and surrendered at Vicksberg. I do not choose to fly a confederate flag nor do I even own one, but come and try to do this art in my front yard and you will have a problem.
by F 03/19/07 07:16 AM
I bet Hurst considers himself a patriot. That flag represents the most serious attack ever on the US government. It represents not only treason but terrorism as well. People who embrace that flag are simply clueless.
by Michele 03/19/07 12:30 AM
Did the South lose the war? Can a president be elected w/out southern support? The War was not fought to protect slavery but to protect state rights from the tyrannical majorities. I'm from MA and this display offends me as well. Love your history
by Kevin 03/18/07 11:53 PM
How can one be so ignorant to compare the CSA to Nazi's? The secretary of war for the Confederacy was a Jew. Do you realize how many Jews fought for the CSA? Stan Watie was Cherokee,he fought for the CSA. The soldiers on the Trail of Tears were UNION
by Lee 03/18/07 11:43 PM
Less than 10% of the South owned slaves,The other 90% fought for states rights,which meant no Fed. Tariffs on Exports,which hurt the South's ability to compete over seas.Robert e. Lee was against slavery.I think the art should be allowed though.
by Jeremiah 03/18/07 09:43 PM
The Confederate flag is just as much American as the one at the capitol. If some anti America "artist" displayed the same thing with U. S. flag there instead, there would be an almost sure violence to get it taken down.
by Billy 03/18/07 05:22 PM
Tacky and tasteless. Our Confederate ancestors are being dishonored by ignorant, rude, and hateful people.
by JW 03/18/07 05:12 PM
Doesn't matter who accepts it. Mine will fly. If we're supposed to be a nation of tolerance, then you will tolerate it because personally, I don't care what others think.
by Karisa 03/18/07 04:40 PM
Boo hoo. There are plenty of people, citizens included, who still under political oppresion in this country. Let's devote our time to the present with lessons learned from the past, not dwelt upon. Isn't that what art and history are about?
by Steve 03/18/07 03:14 PM
As we get further in to the election season, on to '08 we are sure to see massive emotinal displays by the liberals. That is how they operate. Raw emotion and no substance. Misprepresentaion of facts, and lots of hype. Old tricks in modern times.
by Steve 03/18/07 03:12 PM
There is no rational comparison between Nazis and Confederates. Liberals are always trying to re write history to suit their wacko agenda, which basically amounts to simply disagreeing with the right. This "art" is just a publicity stunt.
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