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Politics
House tells voters: You pick
By ALEX LEARY
Published March 22, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - After enduring weeks of criticism that their property tax plan tramples local control, Republican House members Wednesday announced the ultimate handoff. Voters in each of Florida's 67 counties should decide on one of two tax structures, they said. The first choice eliminates all property taxes on homesteads in exchange for a sales tax increase up to 2.5 percent. The second would mean voters accept a property tax rollback to 2003-2004 levels, saving primary homeowners about 45 percent on their tax bills. The result could be that Pinellas operates under a different tax system than, say, Hillsborough. "We heard loud and clear, they want local control," Rep. Ray Sansom, R-Destin, said of local government. "There is major property tax reform either way." The plan, which has a long way to go to become a reality, could easily create a logistical nightmare and a dizzying tax structure, opponents say. Counties that opt for higher sales taxes might seem an ideal place to live, but a bad place to do business, and vice versa. Battles could emerge within counties, too. In Orange County, home to Disney and other tourist destinations, voters may ditch property taxes but the increased sales tax could hurt the very industry that allows them to afford homes or businesses in the first place. "I'm sure it's going to create some tension," said Sarah Bleakley, a lobbyist for the Florida Association of Counties, who like so many people following the tax debate in Tallahassee was still trying to decipher the latest change Wednesday night. "Obviously my colleagues are back at the drawing board," said Democratic House leader Dan Gelber of Miami Beach. "There seems to be more questions than answers." While there are two distinct options to the latest plan, there is one common component: The portion of property taxes used to fund schools, about 30 percent of each homeowners' bill, would cease to exist. It would be replaced by a 1 percent sales tax increase. House leaders say the additional sales tax would adequately replace the $3.1-billion lost in school property taxes. In counties that chose to eliminate the rest of the taxes on homesteaded property, the sales tax would increase another 1.5 percent. In all, the current 6 percent state sales tax rate would go up by 2.5 percent. Local option taxes, such as the Penny for Pinellas, would remain in effect. Concerns about higher sales taxes, which many argue disproportionately affect the poor, could drive counties to opt for the second option of rolling back tax levels to 2003-2004. The rollback would save residents $5.5-billion in property taxes, but it takes the money out of local government coffers. If a county chose the rollback option, primary homeowners would save an average of 45 percent: 15 percent from the rollback and 30 percent from the elimination of the school tax. Whichever way counties voted, the plan would save nonhomestead property owners money. Second home owners would save about $668 and the average commercial property owner $2,919, according to House figures. Wednesday's proposal, which is different from another House plan to simply roll back taxes to 2001 levels and cap future revenue collection, still needs the approval of the full House. The Senate also is working on plans, but has been much slower to develop them. If approved by the House and Senate, the plan would then require a statewide vote to change the constitution. If the constitutional amendment was approved, then the counties would all have to hold individual referendums by 2010. "It's a difficult issue," acknowledged House Speaker Marco Rubio, R-Miami. "But we pride ourselves on the fact that we're going to push ideas. We see that as our role."
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by Lee
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05/15/07 08:11 AM
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Why can't those dunderheads in the House and Senate see that the MOST logical solution is a STATE INCOME TAX. Why should only the homeowners support this state alone. Everybody would share the burden equally depending on income.
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by Ashlee
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05/11/07 05:28 PM
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We just bought a home in 2005.Are taxes went up to $3,500 dollars. Were sinking fast, just because the mortgage has to go up to pay back the escrow account and then give extra for this year. How do you pay higher bills with the same pay? We need this
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by Richard
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05/07/07 08:25 PM
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Tax all property at 1% of the sales price. Simple...Fair...No gues work. five other states do this and it works very well. Remember that every time a house sells there is tax paid to the state of Florida. More activity brings more money
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by Gill
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05/07/07 08:24 PM
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My taxes on my home, no homestead. which I paid $262,000 for five years ago went from $3,900 in 2005 to $13,200 in 2006. This is ridiculous for me , very difficult and is killing investment in the state in general. 1% of sales price
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by Richard
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05/07/07 08:22 PM
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Make this entire system easy. 1% of the sales price. Go back to 2001 property values and move forward from there. Simple....In the future everyone will know what their taxes would be across the board....1% of the sales price.
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by alan
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05/02/07 10:51 AM
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The overgrown property tax is regressive...it adds hundreds of dollars to the cost of monthly rent. Those who have a lot of money to spend would pay more of the add'l sales tax than poorer folks.
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by Mark Rosen
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04/29/07 07:00 PM
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Tax the snow birds and torists eleimiate homestaed property tax with 2.5% sales tax
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by Mark Rosen
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04/29/07 06:53 PM
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You need to fix the property tax issue. I am in fav of the 2.5% increase in state sales tax for the eleimination of prpoerty tax on homestead property. Any tax should be a tax that can be deducted from my federal income tax and payed by non residence
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by JT
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04/26/07 03:34 PM
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Leave things along. Vote out the crooks. Trim the fat until there's responsible representatives that can be fiscally prudent. Create a surplus and then cut taxes accordingly. Everyone puts the cart before the horse. Another money grab for the rich.
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by RAYMOND
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04/26/07 11:28 AM
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How about allowing those who moved within the same county in the last four years to carry some cap with them? (four years is about the time there was major real estate value increase.) Does not have to be the full 3%, how about a partial of say 5%?
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by RAYMOND
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04/26/07 11:24 AM
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The ones paying the load now are buyers from the last couple of years who lost their cap upon moving. Where is that relief in the provisions??? Specific relief is needed here - taxes for homes have increased 2 to 3 times just because of a move.
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by vincent
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04/25/07 01:37 PM
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Someone said it perfectly, GO HOME SNOWBIRDS. You cost a ton on the year around tax payer (i.e. insurance, police and fire).
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by DAVID
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04/21/07 06:18 AM
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I like the proposal to eliminate property taxes in exchange for the 2.5% add to sales tax.
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by Carlos
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04/20/07 06:57 AM
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I support the first choice, to eliminate all property taxes to my home, and increse the sales tax up to 2.5%.
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by Chuck
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04/16/07 10:10 AM
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Message clear,"SNOWBIRDS GO HOME!"Those victimized the most with outrageous real estate taxes get no relief.Watch real estate market, and your tourist industry as we exit Florida. Add income tax,increase sales tax.Taxation, No representation.Illegal
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by Charles
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04/15/07 06:43 PM
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High tax rates are a problem, uncontroled spending is even more so. Add a quarterly requirement for public reporting on revenue from all agencies of government empowered to collect taxes and fees. Public demand for a complete accounting will follow.
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by Joe
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04/10/07 05:11 PM
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What happened to the roll back to 2001 lovels? Where did 2003-4 rollbacks come from? Tallahassee slight of hand I think!
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by Barbara
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04/10/07 02:38 PM
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We're taxed everywhere we turn. Let the tea party begin. Once you own something, you shouldn't be taxed on it - period. We need less government - more free enterprise!
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by Vito
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04/08/07 11:42 AM
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I've lived in Fla for 17yrs. I can't remember using Govn't services. I mail my auto reg, my util bill, my voter reg, I have no children in school, I'll gladly pay for my Grandkids, what am I paying for. My trash I pay for, I don't use Pol or Fire Dp
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by Donald
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04/07/07 01:42 PM
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Elimination on taxes would allows new couples, to be able to afford a house as well as to improve the economy in our state. Besides such measure would motivate renters to own their own home which in turns would help them to acquire the american dream
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by Lorin
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04/03/07 07:09 PM
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Why should these services be provides by a government anyway, have we not yet learned from FedEx, and others that private business can provide better than governments, and without coercive taxation
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by Claire
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04/02/07 05:28 PM
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Fl.Politicians Stop all the nonsense and do something now.This cannot continue. 2010, what a joke! By then many of us will be dead and buried or homeless paupers. Can anyone tell me what Gov.Crist did to become known as the "Peoples' Governor anyway?
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by Bart
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04/02/07 08:00 AM
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Granted all of the new houses built in Florida over the last several years add to the burden on gov't services, but look at the gross runup in property value that local gov'ts enjoyed. Let government check their spending.
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by Vito
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04/01/07 08:08 AM
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Set property taxes at 1 percent of cost of property plus land value at the time of purchase. This would be relative to the ability of the purchaser to pay the tax. The tax would remain the same until the next sale which would reflect new market rates
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by Vito
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04/01/07 07:58 AM
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Taxes are a reflection of one's income. The higher value home the higher the taxes. If you are a foolish buyer or an investor that's the risk you take. The system works. The key is planning ahead and don't buy over your head. As for investors tough.
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by Iris
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03/30/07 02:57 PM
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The Prop.tx needs to be accessed at a more realistic value not at the over inflated values of the past 2-3 yrs, which have now deflated to the real mkt value, and more important the millage needs to match that reduction.
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by bob
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03/28/07 07:05 PM
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Corporate Income Tax
Federal Income Tax
Utility Taxes
Gasoline Tax
Inheritance Tax
Liquor Tax
Sales tax
Water Craft Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Social Security Tax
School Tax
Telephone Taxes
I left out 20 other taxes
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by Dennis
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03/27/07 11:04 AM
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Eliminate property taxes on the first
$1 million of assessed value; beyond
$1 million in assessed value, tax the property using millage rates in effect on December 31, 1999.
Also, have a statewide sales tax of 9%.
Please run these numbers!
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by otto
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03/26/07 11:34 AM
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Create a new tax! Might as well give a drunk a beer on the assumption he will drink less wine. Drunk'n spending by the politico will continue. Other TAXES will NOT go down! Your total tax burden will be up within two years.
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by Roger
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03/26/07 11:32 AM
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Connecticut which adopted an income tax in 1991. The income tax proponents stated the sales tax would be reduced. We presently have a 5% income tax and a 6% sales tax. Property taxes on a 2,000 sq. ft. house are $6,400. Vote No for an income tax.
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by Anthony
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03/26/07 10:25 AM
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Income taxes keep away business owners and jobs. "Save Our Homes" created the problem. People demand services and someone else pays. It's unfair to new homeowners and hurts property values.
Do away with it and increase the Homestead to $100,000
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by katie
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03/25/07 10:45 PM
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eliminate all property tax in florida raise sales tax.. too many ren ters using tax payers money they go to our better schools and dont pay proerty tax.. and use bogus address to do so... elilminate property tax before everyone looses
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by Jami
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03/25/07 02:31 PM
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We need tax relief!!!
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by JOHN
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03/25/07 08:39 AM
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If you could run the numbers on raising the homestead exemption to 200,000 . This would help all the hard working class and the retried . Then raise sales tax 1 or 1.5 persent. Then give renters a tax crdit to help them. Give small business a cap.
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by Art
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03/25/07 07:42 AM
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I'm a 100% disabled vet.One "benefit" is freedom from property taxes. Take them away and it's tantamount to charging 100% service connected D.Vets. $3000-$5000 a year. 100% SCDV've already lost benefits under Bush Jr.. What more do you want from us?
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