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Forecaster's suicide stuns co-workers, fans
He suffered from depression, a friend says.
By ERIC DEGGANS
Published April 7, 2007
Co-workers and fans across the Tampa Bay area knew John Winter as the gregarious, hard-working backbone of WFLA-Ch. 8's morning news crew, always ready with a practical joke and zingers in his "morons in the news" segments. But one of his closest friends, a colleague who talked with Winter by phone Thursday before the 39-year-old shot himself, said the meteorologist also had "dark clouds" in his life that came from a long struggle with depression. Bob Fontaine Jr. and Winter's wife, Karen, talked with the forecaster by telephone Thursday. Later, Fontaine met sheriff's deputies at Winter's FishHawk Ranch home, watching as they forced entry and heard a single gunshot. And although Fontaine wouldn't discuss further details of the suicide with the St. Petersburg Times, he said he had accompanied Winter as he visited doctors a few times years ago, noting that there was at least one other time when he was concerned Winter might take his own life. "Individuals need somebody to listen to them, and I think that's what I was for John," said Fontaine, an 18-year employee of WFLA who works as a director on the station's morning and midday newscasts. "I would tell him how I felt. ... I would share with him my faith," he said. "I think that would help John through the dark times. ... Sometimes people at work may be smiling and laughing, but inside, they're hurting." WFLA aired a report Friday detailing the events leading up to the suicide in which Fontaine said Winter called him from home several times Thursday. "He was telling me he wanted to end it," Fontaine said in the WFLA report. "He was asking for forgiveness for what he was about to do." Winter's wife declined to speak with the Times. His stepmother, Grace Winter, said family members were too distraught over the circumstances and also chose to limit their public comment out of respect for the personal privacy Winter had maintained in his own life. Co-workers shocked Fontaine met Winter in 2000, when he began working as a director on WFLA's morning newscasts. In 2003, the pair formed a side business, Big U Media, that produced TV commercials and promotional projects. Winter was tiring of the grind of early morning work and looked forward to a time when Big U Media might grow large enough to allow him to leave the job, Fontaine said. The forecaster had been working evenings, filling in for colleagues on vacation, and Fontaine had planned to visit him Thursday night. "That's why I'm hurt and disappointed," said Fontaine. "I can only say, if you're working with a friend and see them hurting, try to get them help." Fontaine's comments about Winter's depression came as a surprise to WFLA news director Don North, who - like most of the forecaster's colleagues - saw him as the last person who might have problems with the disease. "He was about as level-headed a guy as I could deal with," said North, who called in a counselor Friday for employees who felt the need to talk about Winter's death. "I've never noticed anything like that - never once. I would have never thought that." Susanne Homant, executive director of the Florida chapter of the National Alliance on Mental Illness, said that depression is often masked. "People have a public face," she said. "Think of all the movie stars you think are wonderful, and then the next day you hear they took an overdose. ... It's human nature to have a public face and a private face." Sometimes, Homant said, a person with depression may seem to cheer up in the days or weeks before a suicide attempt because he or she has finally made a decision to do something. She said 90 percent of suicides can be linked to mental illness and/or substance abuse - a risk that grows even more dangerous when combined with firearms. "Don't have guns in the house with someone who has depression," Homant said. "It's the leading means of death for suicide." Winter's death hit WFLA staffers hard: Morning anchor Gayle Guyardo stayed at home Friday, while co-anchor Bill Ratliff delayed his own vacation to come in for that morning's tributes to Winter. And because the forecaster had taken time to befriend technicians who worked behind the scenes, many of them were also struggling to make sense of his death. "Everyone is going through their heads, wondering 'Did I miss something? Was there something I could have said today to make sure he was having a better day?' " said Shannon Liston, a producer on WFLA's morning newscast. "A lot of people were saying to each other today: 'Let's all make a pact. If even a bad thought enters your mind, you call someone. Anyone.' " A tribute to Winter Longtime WFLA reporter Mark Douglas hoped to pay tribute to Winter by assembling a story on suicides, noting that local news outlets rarely cover them, for fear of encouraging copycats - but the numbers are often double those of homicides, or more. (In 2005, Pinellas County saw 154 suicides and 61 murders, according to the Florida Suicide Prevention Coalition.) Indeed, the news media's typical reaction to suicide - ignoring average occurrences, but providing extended tributes to well-known people who kill themselves, such as Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain - may still encourage copycatting while keeping the public ill-informed. "When I start pulling up numbers, I see this happens every day," said Douglas. "Every day, somewhere in the Tampa Bay area, somebody is killing themselves." Family members, including Winter's father, John F. "Jack" Winter, director of engineering at WFTS-Ch. 28, had not yet decided on funeral details by press time. But Grace Winter said family members expected that the funeral would be private, and they would not organize a public memorial. North said WFLA staffers remain amazed at the amount of public reaction to Winter's death; by midday Friday, more than 4,000 entries had been posted to the station's online guest book, according to Liston. But the outpouring of sympathy left some colleagues wondering: If Winter had known how much fans loved him, would it have made a difference? "When you're doing this every day, sometimes you lose sight of the fact that what we do matters to people," North said. "This is clearly incredibly personal for a lot of people who don't work here. You can't read some of these e-mails without realizing this is incredibly emotional for them. And sometimes, we forget that." Times staff writer S.I. Rosenbaum and Times researcher Cathy Wos contributed to this report. Eric Deggans can be reached at (727) 893-8521 or deggans@sptimes.com See his blog at blogs.tampabay.com. Warning signs - Depression (and depressive symptoms), despair, hopelessness - Obsessive thinking (including death fantasies) - Mood swings - Extreme guilt or shame - Extreme anxiety (panic attacks) - Acute loss of energy - Change of habits, curtailment of enjoyable activities - The giving away of prized possessions - Insomnia/excessive sleep - Risk-taking behavior: speeding, drunken driving, self-mutilation - Frequent alcohol or drug abuse How to help These are some ways you can help a suicidal person, according to the Crisis Center of Tampa Bay: - Never ignore a suicide threat. If someone confides in you or if you recognize warning signs, confront the person in a gentle way. - Be calm and reassuring when talking to someone who has expressed a desire to commit suicide. Avoid giving advice or making comparisons such as "You'll feel better tomorrow" or "Think about how much better off you are than most people," which can make the suicidal person feel even more worthless or guilty. - Urge the troubled person to call a crisis service, or help him arrange to talk to a counselor, clergy member or other trustworthy person. Source: Crisis Center of Tampa Bay
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by Anita
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11/22/07 11:27 AM
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I watched John almost every morning and I really missed him. I mustt have been away or something and thought he got a different job. We have and will continue missing him.With Our Love
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by Donna
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10/22/07 08:05 AM
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I went out with John briefly years ago when he worked in the Rio Grande Valley. He was a perfect gentleman always, and I still miss seeing him every morning. I hope he is at peace and knows how much he was loved and admired.
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by Maynor
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10/11/07 02:50 PM
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yes, depression is a hard subject within the family...My wife went through it and she was always anxious. We have 4 children and now I pray for my wife every day.
My deepest sympathy goes out to the family
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
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by john winter
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09/19/07 07:28 AM
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miss you john winter and love you
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by Pasquale
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06/20/07 07:30 AM
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I miss John very much. Being a Bi-Polar sufferer I know the pain in which John felt. It's heavy and it seems like there's no out from it. The only answer is taking ones own life. Rest in peace John the pain is gone now. We miss you very much.
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by Bill
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06/07/07 11:42 PM
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I am still very sad that John ended his life. I watched him for many years and sometimes I sensed that he was either having a bad day, or stressing a little on camera. In the police report there was mention to a bible being open to John 14, read that
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by sean
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05/31/07 01:05 PM
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sorry shot
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by been there
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05/11/07 08:05 PM
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Unless you have been there you cannot understand the feelings one goes threw.The only thing that kept me going was the effect it would have had on my loved ones.Like John I had the devotion of my best friend,a Dog. I heard he lost his recently.
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by Patricia Warren
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04/20/07 03:23 AM
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This world will never get it! Mental Illness is the number one killer in the world and we continue to ignore it!
www.williambjones.com
THE MOST BEAUTIFUL BOY IN THE WORLD! I MISS HIM SO MUCH!
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by RB
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04/20/07 02:45 AM
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My two nephews had the priveledge to work with him at KGBT Channel 4 in Harlingen, Texas. He was in his mid 20's when I met him. He always had a vibrant personality every time I would run into him in town. He will surely be missed in Texas.
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by Dawnmarie
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04/17/07 09:43 PM
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John and I have been friends for over 8 years. Had it not been for the taping of Oprahò019s show for the Most Eligible Bachelor, I would have never even had the chance to know him. He will truly be missed.
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by Mary Jo
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04/17/07 09:34 PM
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This article was sent to me by a friend.
My deepest sympathy goes out to the family, co workers and friends of John Winter. My husband and I lost our beloved son John to suicide at age 30. He was a beloved husband and father of children ages 2 and 1
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by Dick
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04/13/07 10:35 AM
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Thanks for including the "warning signs" and "how to help". People who have been impacted by suicide will find useful information on "TheGiftofKeith", a website in memory of our son who died by suicide in 1999. - D.L.
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by Beverley Hurley
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04/13/07 08:39 AM
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This event shocked our community!Suicide awareness is a much needed concern for our world today!Working with bereaved parents for 16 years,having a loved one die by suicide is one of the most difficult instances to give grief support!My condolences!
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by Carol
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04/13/07 08:26 AM
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We lost our son Keith to suicide in 1999. John sounded so much like our son. I have organized a website to help others who have suffered a loss from suicide. My website deals with depression the number one cause of a suicide. Thegiftofkeith.org
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by Dee
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04/10/07 07:13 PM
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Once again I am appalled at the "How to Help" signs. If anyone knows what it is like to be depressed/suicidal, they do not want to talk to ANYONE and the front they put on is remarkable! (They, i.e. "we"). Until you've been there, you won't get it!
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by Michele
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04/10/07 04:29 PM
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wow- what a shock - depression is such a disabling thing -no matter what you have or how great things are, the mind can lead you to a deep, dark place that few understand, so you put on your "game" face - and noone knows until it's too late...sad....
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by WILL
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04/10/07 03:19 PM
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I only knew John from what I saw on TV. On the outside it would seem that he had a good life and alot to live for. Its hard to imagine life being that bad to end it all. r.i.p.
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by Evy
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04/10/07 10:30 AM
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The difference with my depression and John's is the decision to end it. I would never end my life--too afraid to die, and my family needs me. But I get it, depression is bad bad news. Maybe the family can be advocates now. RIP to a cool guy!
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by Evy
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04/10/07 10:26 AM
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How many people have had depression? It's a big, ugly disease, I know, I suffer daily with it. It's hard for someone else to understand why he didn't get help. Most of the time you just sit and suffer alone,alone,alone, thinking nobody gets it.
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by Gail
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04/10/07 09:45 AM
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I knew John back in the late 90's and had many good times with him. I am so saddened by this news. He was a good guy- sadly- who was hiding a lot of hurt. His wife and family are in my prayers for healing during this tough time.
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by Jacqueline
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04/10/07 12:14 AM
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John the morning show with you Gayle was so funny.I was glad the month of April was here,because that means you will back in the morning.I am sadden and sorry to hear that you took your life.John you had alot to live for.You will be miss.We love you
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by channing
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04/09/07 10:25 PM
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My heart goes out to the family of john winter. For anyone thinking about taking their lives please remember that when you take your life,you are also taking away internal life from anyone that has ever cared about you. GOD BLESS
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by Michael
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04/09/07 09:44 PM
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I feel for the family, as my father committed suicide April 17, 2005. His was due to having lukemia, but suicide is suicide, no matter how you look at it. They tend to think things won't get better, that that is their only way out.
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by Daisy
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04/09/07 09:05 PM
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Every morning the first faces i see is the channel 8 crew, John will be missed. RIP. Prayers and God Bless
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by Jacqueline
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04/09/07 08:30 PM
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To Karen:You are in my prayers.I can not say I know how you feel.But I want you to know that it hurt all of us very much when we heard what had happen.I wish that he had just take his problems to GOD.Karen he touch alot of hearts.I will miss you JOHN
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by Lisa
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04/09/07 06:14 PM
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The only reason I watched the news was so I could see John's smiling face every morning. His jokes with Gayle brightened my mornings. I am saddened about his death, he will be missed. We love you John, rest in peace.
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by Bonnie
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04/09/07 12:55 PM
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the third day was Easter Sunday...roll away the stone and let John be on his way...God Speed you are at peace!
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by Amanda
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04/09/07 12:45 PM
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After reading this very sad news, I'm amazed how personally I feel his loss and I've never even met him. He truly was the reason I watched the news because of how funny and down to earth he seemed. My heart goes out to his family.
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by Sara
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04/09/07 10:44 AM
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Waking up every morning and seeing his friendly face on the news has given me encouragment to take on the day and has started me out on a good foot. Even though I've never met him, I felt as if he was a part of my life and I will miss him dearly.
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by Judy
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04/09/07 10:13 AM
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I know what John was feeling because I was lucky that my attempt failed. The darkness does pass, but it is incredibly horrible and painful physically and mentally. Rest in peace. Perhaps you death will help others to get help.
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by denise
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04/09/07 09:55 AM
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i am sadden by this situation i watched him do the weather almost all the time my condolenscence and prayers go out to the family may god bless you
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by Kelly
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04/09/07 08:32 AM
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I will miss your smiling face each morning.
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by dantiler
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04/08/07 11:49 PM
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I have watched the broadcast for years, and I always suspected something was not real about his demeanor. He was way too dry. He was a great weatherman, though.
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by Sue
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04/08/07 09:55 PM
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Karen, Grace & Jack: John was a wonderful person and will be missed. He loved to help the community. Take his tragedy and use it to help others. Help save someones life by using John's story. I believe this is what John would have wanted.
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