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Publix pay fallout: Readers give their 2 cents over losing a quarter

Readers, bloggers, customers and employees weigh in on a Publix plan that cuts some pay.

By Mark Albright, Times Staff Writer
Published April 9, 2007


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Ray O'Connor, 75, stands in front of the Publix where he has been a bagger for 10 years. His pay was recently docked 25 cents an hour.


Despite superior work ratings Louann McCurdy was earning the maximum $10.25 an hour cashier salary, so she wasn't always eligible for annual raises. But when her manager tried to cut her pay by a quarter an hour last week, that was too much.

She quit.

"After working at Publix 12 years I had earned every nickel of that $10.25 an hour so I'm not about to let them arbitrarily take it away," said the 48-year-old Tarpon Springs woman. "This isn't about the quarter. I have my pride. Right now I have no job, no prospects of getting one and yet I feel very relieved."

Publix Super Markets Inc. has been vague about who's shouldering most of the pay cuts from an unusual new pay plan imposed on 115,000 workers in its stores. But more than two dozen workers from Tampa Bay stores who accepted cuts to keep their jobs say most of those choices are being put to veteran Publix workers in their 50s, 60s and 70s - including an 80-year-old Palm Harbor bagger.

"They tagged five people here with pay cuts, including me," said Ed Lapinski, 55, a cashier in a Homosassa Publix. "The other four were seniors in their 70s."

In the two weeks since 75-year-old Spring Hill Publix bagger Ray O'Connor spoke out against the chain's new pay plan in a St. Petersburg Times article, there's been lots of fallout.

Letter writers peppered local media and filled a several pages of give-and-take among employees and customers on online comment boards where the story was published. Some customers said they will boycott Publix. Uncertainty spread among workers awaiting review or who had kept pay cuts to themselves.

"Even the private security guard at the front door asked me about my pay cut," said Wendy Giddings, 55, who works at a St. Petersburg store.

The discussion comes at a time when big retailers are beginning to grapple with ways to keep costs under control with an aging work force. Wal-Mart Stores Inc. was criticized when a memo surfaced last year mapping tighter work rules to prod more older workers to quit before they aged through their prime years for health claims. Circuit City Stores Inc. last month laid off 3,400 of its highest-paid sales help to replace them with lower-paid workers.

Publix, which says more than 20 percent of its store workers are 50 or older, says the pay plan is not about age or cost control. The company increased its payroll and adopted the pay system to take to the next level its renowned customer service and national recognition as an employer of choice among seniors.

"Only a small percentage of our 115,000 hourly store employees have had their pay reduced," said spokeswoman Shannon Patten. "This not about age. We're doing this for the right reasons: to reward those who perform well. A huge majority of our employees prefer it that way."

Publix's plan rewards top performers but, for the first time, can impose 25-cent-an-hour pay cuts to prod employees to do better if their evaluation scores slip. Workers get six months to improve before a pay cut.

Seventy-seven percent of Publix store employees reviewed in February got a raise while 4 percent saw a pay cut. Even top-tier scorers who got double raises of 50 cents an hour can lose them if they don't maintain their ratings.

Online reader comments characterized Publix "plantation-style management" taking small change from people living paycheck to paycheck after the company's net income soared to a record $1.1-billion in 2006.

From the other side, self-described hard workers question why veterans should get away with easing off the throttle, see no problem penalizing a small group of "bottom feeders" and say baggers don't add much value to Publix.

"It was jarring to people here because people thought Publix, which has been seen as a desirable employer, was beyond all this," said Peter Helwig, a Lakeland lawyer in Publix's corporate home town.

Blogs of retail experts read by supermarket executives debated the pros and cons of Publix' use of disincentives. Most liked the idea if store managers can rate employees on a consistent basis using objective, benchmarked criteria.

"The fact is Publix doesn't want someone who quits over a quarter an hour anyway," said David J. Livingston, president of DJL Research in Pauwaukee, Wis. "They want someone who tries harder all the time, has a great attitude and, if they lose a quarter an hour, is committed to get it back. That's what made this company a dominant force against strong competition like Wal-Mart."

Some whose pay was cut question the consistency of their ratings. A few lost attendance points for taking sick leave. One lost two points for each unexcused absence while another was docked one point for the same reason in the same store.

"It's still a good company," said Gene Sullivan, a one-time Publix store manager. "They just put too many young managers who don't know how to treat people in charge of multimillion dollar businesses."

As for O'Connor, the bagger who was first to sound off about the pay plan, he was counseled by his managers to refer customers who ask about his job situation to them. Last week they handed him a $5 gift certificate after a customer lauded him for "superb service."

"Maybe they're trying to butter me up" he joked. "But I'm not leaving here until my work record is cleared."

Mark Albright can be reached at albright@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8252.

What they're saying

"What a recipe for poor employee relations! I won't feel the same way about Publix if I shop there again."

Dorothy Snidow, St. Petersburg customer

"It was jarring to people here because people thought Publix, which has been seen as a desirable employer, was beyond all this."

Peter Helwig, a lawyer in Lakeland where Publix is headquartered

"It certainly appears that the spirit and values of the late George Jenkins are no longer with Publix."

Sarah A. Benjamin, South Pasadena customer

"If they stop improving after receiving the higher or maximum pay, they should get a pay cut."

Ta-Hung (Tony) Jenq, a Publix assistant store manager in Clearwater

"This paper needs to publish the pay of the CEO and top executives and all of their perks."

Jacqueline Paulausky, Clearwater customer

What happened

Publix Super Markets, Florida's No. 1 and the nation's sixth-largest supermarket chain, adopted a pay plan that rewards high achievers but can penalize employees who may do their job well but are not considered constantly improving. Lakeland-based Publix spent years creating its "Tie Pay To Performance" plan, aimed at rewarding more productive workers. Some Publix workers have found their pay docked despite being designated "successful" performers.

The response

A March 25 St. Petersburg Times story, left, about Publix bagger Ray O'Connor's pay cut and the supermarket's performance plan has prompted a strong and mostly critical response from readers of this newspaper and those of the Lakeland Ledger, which ran the story.

What it means

The topic touched nerves in several workplace debates, including inter-generational work conflict at the corner supermarket. Pay incentives for performance are old hat. But is it right to cut pay for low-level, part-time veterans if once-acceptable work performance supposedly slips a bit? How will retailers deal with an older work force as baby boomers age through their prime health care years?

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Comments on this article
by Martha 12/25/07 03:07 PM
Help me to the line of the law-suit, I am older and highly pissed off at them now. It is not about the $$$$$$.
by Att. Enraged ! 09/27/07 11:14 PM
you should be ashamed of yourself and not these people that have been treated unfairly. I have 13 years with this company and in the last 5 years it has been all about bottom line not the employees!George Senior would never had let this happen!!!!!!!
by enraged at enraged 09/27/07 11:08 PM
this policy will eventually be challenged in a courtroom as a class action discrimination suite,it's only a matter of time.some long term older employees can't be expected to work at the same pace as younger employees! totally unfair & saddening!!!!!
by Bill 09/22/07 07:34 PM
Why do people think they are worth so much? In then end, people who work hard everyday and don't complain are noticed. I have worked there for 5 years. Have received a raise every time. Do your job people!!
by Betty 09/13/07 10:43 AM
My son worked for Publix for 18 years. He finally left for a better position in late December. He had already been paid a Christmas bonus based on service. He was made to pay all of it back to Publix. Seems petty to me.
by JL 09/04/07 05:25 PM
I got a great evaluation, my numbers are high, but I can't get even a quarter. I make $10.25 hour for parttime. That is top pay. So what is the use of a evaluation? What does it do for me? How come foreigners don't have to answer the phones?
by Enraged 08/28/07 10:11 PM
How can you post a story about an employee that you have no idea about their preformance?
by Enraged 08/28/07 10:05 PM
I have seen so many employees go away and then come back to Publix! The grass is not always greener on the other side! Go give Walmart a try and see how great they treat their employees!
by Enraged 08/28/07 10:02 PM
All of you people below should be ashamed of yourselves! Today's society thinks that they only have to work hard until they get their raises. After that they do what ever they want. This is an excellent policy and will reward the true hard workers.
by phil 08/26/07 02:40 PM
What I submitted was for scan gun for the large items (like at Kroger, Home Depot etc). I had a lady drop a thirty lb cat litter on her toe. I sent it to Division honcho and was refused. This co. hates to spend money on innovation!!!! Bring on OSHA
by Mike 08/10/07 04:21 PM
It'll make mad workers.. where it ll reflect on the costumers. Now, ive seen a great pair of workers.. Scott, the best cut guy we had. They took a quarter away from him. Publixs is only good for the stocks. In 20 years if u invest, u can make 1M
by Mike 08/10/07 04:19 PM
I worked at publixs 3 months ago. They try to make it sound so great to grow with the company. In the end, people are ugly to eachother. They backstab eachother to make others look bad to get success. This pay cut will make mad workers. Then itll
by Jim 08/06/07 05:14 PM
I"m quite shocked at Publix's actions on pay cuts and I think they have the psychology all wrong. You don't get a PAY RAISE if you don't perform well- not a pay cut. A pay cut can be very demeaning and counterproductive. Boo on Publix.
by tired 07/20/07 11:24 AM
Two words describe conditions Publix employees endure on a daily basis: Unfair & Harassing. This has only taken place in the past 5 years; Publix used to be a great place to work! They USED to be closed on Sundays in Florida-GREED has taken over!!!
by very madt 07/14/07 06:15 PM
ther are many publix employees who work extremely hard, and have been treated ruthlessly and dishonestly by mgmt. i was one who at one time felt excited to work there. i left like many. my family and others are done with there greed and corruption
by SL 07/08/07 03:01 PM
store 602 in greenville sc is no different than all these comments I've read-- our SM & assistant have been best friends for years--how is it "ok" for them to manage together?? FISHY, FISHY, FISHY!!! it's a closer relationship than a married couple
by Sad 07/08/07 02:52 PM
Many moons ago, I was excited to get hired on with Pbulix---now when i get ready for work, I literally cry before leaving my family--there is ZERO flexibility when working for Publix. Those evaluations are so FAKE!! Nothing good is EVER noted on them
by Fedup 07/08/07 02:48 PM
Managers over the past 10 yrs have greatly deteriorated. our store just hired someone off the street from another grocery chain--Bi-Lo-- and overlooked all qualified Publix associates already waiting for promotions. what's with that??
by Devalued 07/08/07 02:24 PM
Just wondering, does anyone work at a Publix where the managers freely give out those so called TOKENS? You know, those things we're 'supposed' to be given if a customer gives us a compliment...our managers sit on them like they are golden eggs
by DeValued 07/08/07 02:21 PM
#602 In SC, we are so detatched from Lakeland the managers could care less how Mr Jenkins used to run a 'family' type of business--Chick-Fila is STILL closed on Sunday so families can BE families..Publix is open 7-10 with NO family / church time. SAD
by Devalued 07/08/07 02:14 PM
been with publix several years and fail to see how they've been voted one of the top compaines to work for--CRAZY--NONE of the managers care about us as human beings. I always get great reviews HOWEVER, our managers DO NOT care about me, as a person
by Devaluded 07/08/07 02:09 PM
Our SM at 602 in Greenville, SC kisses up to the DM so often I'd be surprised if he ever has to buy toilet paper!! Our SM is PROUD he's just a country-boy earning 100K --disgusting!! POOR management is the reason for the continual crap!!
by Devalued 07/08/07 02:01 PM
I work at store 602 in Greenville, SC and am sad to read it's not just our store 602 and just our store manager who STINKS!! On safety EVERYONE only gets a 5 and our SM wants to only give a 3 claiming we don't police the bathrooms! he THINKS he's GOD
by Niel 07/08/07 01:47 AM
I have worked for publix for 1 year and I think it is the best company to work for.My managers have been fair with my evaluations.I think the people that complain don't work hard enough.They think O I have worked here for 12 years i should get araise
by JT 07/07/07 03:10 PM
worked with woman in land o lakes bakery store 877. she was always prompt.everyone knew she came in early. mgr evaluation gave 3 out of 10. when approached mgr to see record he said could not pull up records. mgr of store knew it also-big lie.
by Flora 07/07/07 08:01 AM
When have we changed to a society where employees should be "punished" instead of "incented"? I WAS a loyal Publix shopper, but I vote with MY money. I will not be shopping there again. Lets see how Publix likes doing without MY quarters!
by LG 07/04/07 07:19 PM
13 year employee of Publix and I agree Publix is abusing this new pay system. D Mgr. are told to keep scores at a minimal by their SM. Evaluations are presented to the SM for score approval and often changed so as not to give increase. Shameful!
by JL 06/28/07 07:37 PM
Employees are so over worked, and not once do they ever say thank you. I want another job, but the only problems is, I only have Publix on my resume. I quess we all have a choice to leave or stay. Does anyone need a well organized employee, no retail
by JL 06/28/07 07:31 PM
I would like to know what happens when a store manager gets the lowest rating in their district! Do they take a pay cut? I was told by a manager of a department that they were not allowed to hang out with the employees. Alot are married to employee
by Sorry Canttell 06/22/07 09:28 AM
My dept. workforce was cut in half - yet my sales are increasing. My pay has now been cut TWICE! Don't tell me it is about performance. It is only about management greed.
by Jane 06/21/07 08:35 AM
SHAME ON PUBLIX - HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF ANY BIG COMPANY TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM EMPLOYEES? IT'S A DISGRACE AND MAKES FOR POOR EMPLOYEE RELATIONS. EVALULATIONS ARE A BIG JOKE, THAT POINT SYSTEM HAS TOO MUCH ROOM FOR FAVORITES TO SHINE.
by me 06/20/07 03:24 AM
the old publix is gone is all abut the $$$ now they have good benefits but bad mangers the pay rate bull has got to go will some of it at lest my manger is a hard ass no rise for me stock Clark.
by MJ 06/19/07 01:18 AM
I think it's bullshit and these guys need to reevaluate they way they are taking this company into future growth. As a newer associate Isee that I can only go as high as a pay chart can take me and thats as far as i can go. I dont think I could stay.
by john 06/13/07 05:07 PM
The last time i received an evaluation, i was told i was good but i could not get a raise because i was toped out. i found out that i had a while to go before i was topped out. i have been with publix for 12 years. it realy is not fair.
by Publix Employee 06/07/07 02:24 AM
They have 2 many people at the warehouse that come up with the stupidest things to change to waste money on that we don't have time 4 why not get rid of them that would save money give it back to us who work
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