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Tax relief plans far apart
State lawmakers have two weeks to meld House and Senate plans. There is no script.
By ALEX LEARY
Published April 23, 2007
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Marco Rubio rules over debate on the house's version of the tax bill.
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TALLAHASSEE - The conventional wisdom on this week's showdown over statewide tax relief goes like this: The unified Senate, with its targeted cuts and its unanimous vote, has the edge over the party-split House and its meat-cleaver proposal. Don't be so sure. The final act of the tax cut debate that opens this week between the chambers is something of a rarity in Tallahassee: It's a play that seems to have no script. The Senate plan is so different from the House version it's hard to see how they arrive at a single proposal to send Gov. Charlie Crist. But maybe that's not true, either. What happens over the next two weeks - or beyond if a special session is required - is of great significance to Floridians. Tax bills are going to change and it's likely the services of local government will, too. Here's a look at the political dynamics for this debate. THE SENATE STORY: The Senate made it seem easy, dignified. After weeks of careful study, lawmakers came through on a promise of broad property tax relief. Without debate, the plan passed unanimously on Thursday. "In eight minutes, we cut taxes by $12-billion. Just think of what we could have done in eight hours," teased Sen. Mike Fasano, who bumped into a House colleague on the street recently. "Well, you guys are the wiser chamber," Rep. Dean Cannon shot back. Kidding aside, many agree the Senate's united front provides the upper hand in negotiations. "It's psychological, nothing you can put your hands on, but it will work on the House members," said Curt Kiser, a former Republican legislator from Pinellas County. "There's that old saying about a House divided." But for every point, there's a counterpoint. The Senate's plan went down so easily some don't trust it, mainly because it would not save the average taxpayer nearly as much as the House plan would. All those weeks of public flogging of the House's bold proposals made it a target for some, but it also may have whet the appetite of many taxpayers for something big. Senate President Ken Pruitt has gotten an e-mail box full of reviews of his modest plan. "As a lifelong Republican, I am disgusted with you and 'our' Republican Senate," Jack Loos of Fort Lauderdale wrote in an e-mail. "You should be trying to enact meaningful property tax relief, not trying to undermine it." Here's what the Senate plan would do: It would roll back property tax revenues for cities and counties to 2005 levels, where they would freeze for one year. After that, budgets could grow with the population. It would give the popular concept of Save Our Homes what is called "portability." Longtime homeowners complain that they feel trapped in their homes because moving would mean losing the 3 percent cap on annual assessments and much higher tax bills, even if they go to a smaller home. Portability alleviates that problem. But the Senate calls for increasing the 3 percent cap to 10 percent for several years. Another part of the Senate plan is a $50,000 homestead exemption to first-time home buyers. It applies to homes worth at least $100,000, and the exemption would drop to the standard $25,000 once Save Our Homes kicked in. The Senate also exempts the first $25,000 of business equipment from a tax on tangible property. The House story Under House Speaker Marco Rubio, the chamber announced its plan even before the session began, then tweaked it several times along the way. Its centerpiece - and source of much controversy - is a plan to abolish all taxes on primary homes in exchange for a 2.5 percent sales tax increase. Democrats, newspaper editorial writers and others have swiftly and loudly criticized the plan, saying it pushes a greater burden to nonhomestead property owners and disproportionately hurts the poor, who pay more of their income in sales taxes. Some Republicans are squeamish, too, terrified of a plan that would require raising taxes by $9-billion to eliminate taxes for primary homeowners only. "That's not what my seniors want me to do, that's not what my young families want me to do," said Sen. Fasano, R-New Port Richey. "Millionaires would enjoy not having to pay property tax and they can afford the extra 2.5 cents." But Rubio has tirelessly promoted his plan, holding campaign-style conference calls and dispatching rank-and-file Republicans to host workshops around the state. Despite the threat of a large defection on voting day, only two Republicans crossed party lines, and three Democrats were on Rubio's side. Rubio, the charismatic 35-year-old from Miami, is still working the case. He will be the featured speaker at a tax cut rally in Tallahassee Tuesday. Harmony after all? Huge gaps remain between the competing plans, but they suddenly looked a lot closer on Friday when a House committee passed a bill that would provide Save Our Homes portability. The bill was going nowhere because Rubio's plan to swap property taxes on homesteads for more sales tax made portability a moot issue. House leaders insist they're just keeping options open, but the sudden move on portability suggests they might be willing to drop the big, bold tax swap. If portability is in the mix on the House side, suddenly the House and Senate plans have a few things in common. Both would roll back tax rates for local government, and both would cap government budgets. If the House really is willing to back off the tax swap idea - and the higher sales tax idea - the next two weeks could be about compromising over the details. - Portability. The House's newly passed plan calls for a straight transfer of any accrued benefit, while the Senate limits to $500,000 of home value and increases the cap 10 percent on assessments for several years. - Rollback. The House has two plans, one that would roll back government budgets to 2001 levels and another to 2003. The Senate rollback is to 2005. A number of senators have said they could live with a rollback that goes back further, and the House seems ready to consider not gong back so far. It's not hard to imagine a split-the-difference deal rolling tax rates back to 2004. As for the rest? "We're not drawing a line in the sand," said Sen. Jim King, R-Jacksonville. "Everything of theirs will be considered over here, and we hope everything of ours will be considered over there." Times capital bureau chief Steve Bousquet contributed to this report.
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by Kayla
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04/24/07 10:31 AM
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SEJ's right. The only way to fix this is to abolish Save Our Homes, so all property owners pay a fair share of the property taxes, not just new home buyers. A politician who has the political will to take on that fight would have my vote and respect.
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by Robert
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04/24/07 01:14 AM
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Only in today's alice in wonderland politics could a plan touted as tax relief increase the save our homes cap from 3 to 10 percent. Thanks for the tax relief! I expect my taxes to go up yet again.
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by brian
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04/24/07 12:40 AM
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florida taxpayers, don't feel alone, we're facing the same tax debacle here in P.A wanna swap?
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by Donna
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04/24/07 12:38 AM
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John, I am the Baby Boomer. I can't afford to throw my money away on free loaders. With the cost of living these days, wealth doens't last long.
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by T
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04/23/07 10:55 PM
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Raise taxes just a little more on non-homesteaded properties and then we can have that bullet train to zip the tourists around the state without cars!!!
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by Paul
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04/23/07 10:03 PM
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NOW we are really getting close to the fat lady's final performance.
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by Diane
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04/23/07 09:52 PM
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As usual the little guy gets left in the lurch. It sounds like we're not going to get any property tax relief at all.
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by Sean
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04/23/07 09:19 PM
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I say try no taxes. Would more politicians with guts like Rubio (I'm a Demo BTW) stand up and be counted. It's time for a drastic change. It's not like they can't come back & change it if it doesn't work. No more property taxes!
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by Jay
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04/23/07 08:06 PM
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It is about time that this state start looking LESS attractive to others. As a Florida native, it burns my butt to hear those complaining that have made MY beaches inaccessible and MY roads congested. GO HOME!
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by Robert
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04/23/07 08:00 PM
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I have been Florida resident for many years and purchased a house within the past year. According to the Senate plan I would be totally left out in the cold along with thousands of others who would not get portability. THANKS FOR NOTHING!
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by Eric
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04/23/07 07:34 PM
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I was in my last home for 8 years and moved a year and a half ago. Roll back taxes and portability mean nothing to me and any plan based on it is specifically targetting me to pay an even larger % portion than the already disgusting amount I do now.
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by jaime
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04/23/07 06:32 PM
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portability and save our home will soon be considered unconstitutional. Let everyone pay their fair share. If you like the current system, soon you will be begging for property tax elimination when save our homes is eliminated on constituitonal basis
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by PurpleRoses
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04/23/07 06:07 PM
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What a sad state of affairs. What would homeowners do with an extra $1,000, $2,000 or even $8,000 in their pockets? They would put it back in the economy. Why not let those who come to Florida and bask in our glorious weather help pay for resource
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by Douglas
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04/23/07 06:06 PM
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The SOH cap has caused apathy by homeowners - govt just spent! Eliminate the cap and budgets will be watched. Why not a hybrid - a small ($25,000 exemption) property tax fixed by property value and a smaller increase on the sales tax. Everybody pays.
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by Tony
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04/23/07 06:00 PM
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The issue is not property taxes.. It is far more improtant .. friends workers employees are leaving florida... looking for a lower cost of living, period...
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by Bob
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04/23/07 04:50 PM
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Marie, if you are waiting for real estate prices to go up, I am afraid you have a long wait. The news is out about Florida. High property taxes are coming home to roost. The price Florida will pay is lower property values. Who can afford to buy?
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by John
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04/23/07 04:21 PM
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For those threatening to sell their vacation homes I simply remind you there are hundreds of thousands of retiring baby boomers ready to take your place. The loss of your revenue is an empty threat. MY elected officials should represent MY interests.
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by Jon
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04/23/07 04:02 PM
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As usual, the poor are going to ruin things for everyone. Heaven forbid they contribute to the state with a meager 2 pennies more.
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by aaron
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04/23/07 03:50 PM
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1. raise homestead to $50,000.00. 2. Allow portability up to $750,000.00. 3. Roll back county budgets to 2001 levels. 4. Cancel pensions and Health Insurance for all state, county, and city employees, afterall, joe public has to!
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by tj
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04/23/07 03:49 PM
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Sales taxes rolls fluctuate annually as they did this year. Does this mean then the paychecks of police/fire/teachers will fluctuate based on the amount rec'd annually. Proptx you have to pay to lender, self employed always fudge on their sales taxes
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by John
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04/23/07 02:33 PM
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I can not believe that there is no compromise measure for the non-residents It's grossly unfair to discriminate in the first instance. taqxation eithout representation is tyranny Wake up-the non residents will vacate and then the residents will cry
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by SEJ
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04/23/07 02:03 PM
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THERE SHOULD BE "NO" SOH CAP thats the only way for every property owner in Fl to pay their fair share.I have owned my home come Dec 07, 20yrs and just purchased another in Oct 06.If everyone paid there fair share we would have solved our tax issue!
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by Kevin
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04/23/07 01:59 PM
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Bye Bye Donna! Don't let the door hit you in the....
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by tracy
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04/23/07 01:35 PM
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if the senate has their way,we will ALL be packing our bags.roll back to 2005? that's when the taxes were on the roll higher.soh is no good.who in there righ frame of mind wants property taxes,when there is an easy way out with a higher sales tax!?
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by alan
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04/23/07 01:31 PM
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as one of the many millions of out of state home owners who have contibuted importantly to floridas growth over the years,.,im leaving !
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by Barbara
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04/23/07 01:06 PM
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I think they should cut everyones taxes that owns a homes in Florida in half and raise the sales tax 1.5 percent. It would help everyone wanting to buy a home in Floriday and those selling.
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by Yvonne
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04/23/07 01:02 PM
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Residents must be willing to pay for their services like the rest of the country. Stop looking for ways to get others to give you a free ride.
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by Willie
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04/23/07 01:00 PM
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worked 4 the CMB for over 25 years Iam close. I say just bfare and, we all should pay our share just look at the books across the board & C who is wasting the taxpayer money. Dont look at the money 4 the lever of service lets not cut off our hands ok
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by Natan
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04/23/07 12:57 PM
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Allocte monies collected from a class to that class of taxpayer services
Business/ Resident/ Nonresident
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by Yvonne
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04/23/07 12:57 PM
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You have already taken all of the money invested by the out of stater in taxes and now have collapsed the market value, so we are broke. The community must acknowledge that out of staters are not rich and you have hurt their familiesby wasting money
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by Nathan
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04/23/07 12:53 PM
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Spending on services for residents should be limited to what is collected from residents. Put that in your calculations. Since different rules apply for taxing then allocated the collected money to the class of people paying/ Business/ nonresidents
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by Frank
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04/23/07 12:50 PM
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Wake up and smell the coffee. Residents can't have a free ride. If the residents have exemptions and tax caps then the services that are provided must have exeptions and cost caps, period.
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by Julia
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04/23/07 12:49 PM
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I am joining the Boycott Florida movement. I will go where someone appreciates having a fair tax paid on a property that is vacant most of the time. Double bonus for the resident taxpayers when this occurs. North and South Carolina are great.
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by Jason
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04/23/07 12:48 PM
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We out of state taxpayers are being taxed with no representation. We want our constituational rights restored in
Florida, we have supported the state with our taxes, business patronage and
our minimal use of services yet we get the shaft.
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by James
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04/23/07 12:44 PM
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Just abolish property taxes!
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