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Politics

Tax swap runs into words of caution

By STEVE BOUSQUET and ALEX LEARY
Published April 26, 2007


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TALLAHASSEE - House Speaker Marco Rubio was 9 years old when Daniel Webster was first elected to the Florida Legislature.

For much of the next two decades, Webster toiled in obscurity. But when Republicans finally gained a majority in 1996, he became the first Republican House speaker in Florida in 122 years, emerging as a role model in his party and paving the way for Rubio's later success.

Now, 27 years later, the political paths of Rubio and Webster are intersecting in dramatic fashion over property taxes.

Rubio is the author of a bold plan to largely wipe out property taxes on homesteads and replace them with a higher sales tax to help run local governments. The unusual tax trade requires approval by two-thirds of voters in a statewide referendum.

After receiving a strong vote of support in the House, Rubio's proposal has suddenly lost momentum. That's due in part to Webster's vocal protests that it would produce billions more in taxes - putting its approval by voters in doubt - while shifting a large tax burden from the rich to the poor.

"The sales tax is a regressive tax," Webster said, "and the more you raise it, the more regressive it becomes."

Webster's plea for common ground, not anti-tax posturing, was echoed Wednesday by Gov. Charlie Crist, whose tax-cut plan is closer to the Senate's more modest version than the House's.

"I heard the words of Senator Webster. ... It looks like tough sledding to me, too," Crist said. Recalling a Rolling Stones song, he said, "You can't always get what you want."

Rubio has worked diligently to build a groundswell of support for his tax swap - calling radio talk shows, attending anti-tax rallies and securing support from the Republican Party, home builders and others.

David McKalip, a St. Petersburg neurosurgeon who heads the citizens group Cut Taxes Now, praised Rubio's hard-line stand.

"He's got to negotiate hard," McKalip said. "We need someone fighting for the taxpayers. Everyone else seems to be fighting for the governments."

Yet, even as Rubio has gained a statewide profile as a fierce tax cutter, the 35-year-old Miami lawyer has failed to convince the senators at the other end of the hall of his plan's merits.

In explaining his opposition, the tall, soft-spoken Webster made his case in his usual way, without raising his voice or making accusations.

"Anything he says, you have to give a lot of weight to," said George LeMieux, Crist's chief of staff. "I believe he's always doing what he thinks is the right thing."

As Senate majority leader, Webster has unassailable conservative credentials. He also embodies the institutional knowledge that's rapidly disappearing from the Legislature because of term limits.

But time is running out on Webster, too. His career as a legislator will end next year.

Webster's deep religious convictions stoked fears that as speaker, he would push a personal agenda, but he didn't. With a thin Republican majority, he governed with an even hand and was the first speaker to outlaw chaotic late-night sessions.

Two other political goals proved elusive, however. He unsuccessfully sought the Senate presidency and briefly ran for U.S. Senate in 2004.

Webster also helped lead the fight to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case. A father of six and an air conditioning contractor in suburban Orlando, he's viewed as an expert on transportation.

"All of us respect him intensely, but I disagree with Danny on this one," said Rep. Frank Attkisson, R-Kissimmee, a Rubio ally.

As Webster has poked holes in Rubio's proposal, Attkisson said some House Republicans have even questioned Webster's fiscal conservatism.

"We have sat and thought, 'Is this the Danny that we knew?' " Attkisson said. "But it's not personal at all."

Webster held his ground.

"I'm not into raising taxes. They are. So I don't think it's my position that's changed," he said.

Steve Bousquet can be reached at bousquet@sptimes.com or 850 224-7263.

[Last modified April 26, 2007, 01:38:16]


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by mark 04/27/07 05:47 PM
Webster isn't into raising taxes?Read the Senate plan.All they want to do is keep rates hi.$350 in the first yr is relief?Are these poeple on drugs?Rubio for governor.Crist sold out.Eliminate Property Taxes NOW.Join the fight - a citizens intiative.
by mark 04/27/07 05:26 PM
Rubio may find be the next gubernatorial candidate.Crist has shown his vulnerabilities.Webster in the Senate?Only an old pol would try to sell the idea that tourists paying a higher sales tax so property taxes would disappear is a tax increase!
by SEJ 04/27/07 05:01 PM
HOW COULD WEBSTER NOT BE INTO RAISING TAXES WHEN THAT'S ALL THE FLA H/O'S HAVE BEEN FACING FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS OR SO,HIGHER PROPERTY TAXES OUT OF CONTROL.I WILL PREFER TO TRY HIGHER SALES TAXES BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW IT WILL HURT THE POOR/RICH YA
by Helen 04/26/07 04:46 PM
Ken, FL now has negative population growth. Why oh why, I wonder.
by jayjo 04/26/07 04:41 PM
I remember a time not long ago when 6 cents was attached to every gallon of gas. Now we pay in Fl. 18 cents on every gallon. Sales tax is a percentage on mony. This is boldly unfair and it seams that no one understands this rip off from Fl. state.
by Ken 04/26/07 03:25 PM
Go ahead and cut property taxes very deep - the criminals can't wait for the cops to be reduced. What do they think property taxes pay for!!
by John 04/26/07 03:07 PM
Speaker Marco Rubio's plan is the only one that would really solve Florida's taxation problem. The Senate's plan is a total joke that would pretty much leave status quo. If I were a Senator, I would be really worried of voters backlash come elections
by tracy 04/26/07 02:50 PM
slick charlie at it again.there was no way that he would keep his end of the bargain.i am starting to look for a realtor now so the onslot of sellers won't slow me down to get out of the state.i'm on a strict budget now as it is.why can't the cities?
by Pedro 04/26/07 01:57 PM
The House tax proposal is the best idea from the gov't in a long time. No surprise old-time Republicans oppose Conservatives. Don't believe Webster's assertion it would increase taxes;if it did all they'd have to do is lower the sales tax rate.
by County Resident 04/26/07 01:35 PM
The sales tax is such a volatile funding source. What happens if we have a major economic slow down? Do we shut down fire stations and police stations?
by County Resident 04/26/07 01:34 PM
The Sales Tax plan will hurt the low income renters in this state more than it will provide a benefit to the owners. The roll back plans still allow inequity between neighbors because the taxes will not change on the special taxing districts.
by Marty 04/26/07 01:14 PM
Although it might not be poplular, in the long run it would be better Florida if we just scrapped the whole SOH exemption and started from lower mill rates and put caps on local government growth. Special liens for impecunious seniors, etc...
by jj 04/26/07 01:01 PM
Fiscal conservatism must include the notion that sales tax is the most regressive form of taxation, allows for the most agressive tax evasion and still must be approved by 2/3s of voters, who must carry 100% of the burden for gross over spending.
by Mike 04/26/07 12:28 PM
the only reason the politicians are against the sales tax is because it's a new idea and will upset there little kingdom.Less tax, more economic stimulus,better times for everyone.It's not rocket science.Go Rubio!
by Curt 04/26/07 12:12 PM
The problem with property tax is the 3% cap. Kill the cap,lower the rate,and double the homestead exemption. This will equal out the amount of taxes everyone pays to a reasonable level. Some people's bill will increase.The current system is unfair.
by Eric 04/26/07 12:04 PM
Looks like to me, the Gov't is trying to keep as much money in their pockets as possible. NO PROPERTY TAXES is fair and it only hurts the RICh.. NOt the poor. Get a brain people.. It would allow the renters to BUY a home...
by Eric 04/26/07 12:02 PM
As usual nothing will be done, it will just look good on paper, just like they FIXED insurance rates /laugh Go Go gov't... bunch of greedy no good politicians. WHy don't you HELP the people, Isn't that suppose to be your job?
by Bob 04/26/07 11:34 AM
Property values are dropping dramatically due in part to high property taxes. Two houses on my street have just sold for tens of thousands of dollars less than their just market value. With no major property tax fix, values will continue to plunge.
by Ron 04/26/07 11:23 AM
If we get rid of property taxes and opt for a increase is sales tax; when will the property tax come back because not enough revenue is being generated? Then we will have high sales and property taxes. Just a band-aid not a fix!!
by Carl 04/26/07 11:19 AM
If we have 1700 people moving to Florida each day, then how come they aren't buy houses???? Where are they living??
by Larry 04/26/07 11:15 AM
Okay, then maybe, just maybe, Mr. Webster can negitiate for real tax relief and not the faux plan that the Senate has put forward. A roll back to 2005 in nothing in dolars and cents!
by Derek 04/26/07 11:12 AM
Equal taxes for all at rates low enough to support 'necessary'government. 1sq. ft.=1sq ft whether rental, homeowner, 2nd home, or 3rd home. Any thing else skews the balance. A single rate based on fair assessment without differentials as to who owns.
by Jon 04/26/07 11:09 AM
"A regressive tax is a tax imposed so that the tax rate decreases as the amount to which the rate is applied increases." A sales tax is flat, first of all, and since the rich spend more, in those terms, it is progressive. Typical class warfare.
by DAVID 04/26/07 10:41 AM
I all for the sale tax increase and do away with property tax.
by Bland 04/26/07 09:46 AM
With all due repect to Senator Webster, I believe Speaker Rubio is correct in his strong stance. Again, his plan, is the only plan which eliminates the disparity between neighboring homeowners, provides for true portability, & corrects local bugets.
by gus 04/26/07 09:14 AM
i support marco rubio;s tax plan...the idea that it would hurt the low income groups is absurd...the wealthy spend more money on everything from expensive auto's to boats and expensive furniture as well as expensive restaurants and on and on...
by Peter 04/26/07 08:58 AM
Why do people who rent apts,homes,and condos pay higher real estate taxes than homeowners? Tenants do not require more police or fire protection than homeowners do. Real estate taxes should be assessed based on square footage not if you rent or own.
by David 04/26/07 08:52 AM
Was this an article on Taxes or 2 Senators arguing. Useless and non-informative. Typical Time writing.
by ben 04/26/07 08:40 AM
leaving the state to issue money to local governments is a BAD idea. Look at what they do to schools!
by David 04/26/07 08:21 AM
Rasing taxes???? Leave it to a politician to spin this into a tax increase. If it were a tax increase then why do they keep telling us how much this will cut into their wallets? It would actually give them more money to waste. Rubio keep fighting!!
by JT 04/26/07 08:07 AM
Just let the people vote on the options then the elitest spin won't be necessary for politicians, government employees and others who have a special interest ax to grind that does not represent the rank and file taxpayer... ALL SALES TAX ALL THE TIME
by Ken 04/26/07 07:19 AM
We still have 1700 people moving into FL a day - how can local gov't provide services taxpayers demand with tax revenues set artificially at the same level as when there were .6 to 2 million fewer people? Ask the 35 yr old lawyer that.
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