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Tax relief? Try gambling
Lawmakers consider gaming to help them cut property taxes.
By STEVE BOUSQUET
Published May 1, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - A major expansion of gambling in Florida emerged Monday as a possible new piece of the property tax cut puzzle that has defied resolution for two months.
On 30 minutes' public notice, a House council passed a bill that would allow 11 existing gambling sites in Florida to add 1, 000 coin- or token-operated video lottery terminals each.
Three affected sites are in the Tampa Bay area: Derby Lane in St. Petersburg, Tampa Bay Downs and Tampa Greyhound Track.
Backed by a coalition of veteran lobbyists, the video lottery idea surfaced at a time when negotiations on property tax cuts are at impasse, with Floridians demanding relief. The new machines would pump at least $500-million in tax revenue into state coffers each year, which adds much-needed flexibility to tax cut negotiations going on right now.
Members of both chambers spent Monday studying savings of different tax plans and seeking elusive common ground.
"Communication is important, " said Senate President Ken Pruitt, R-Port St. Lucie. "I'm still very optimistic."
The 26-page video lottery provision was tacked onto an obscure bill HB 1551 giving the Florida Lottery authority to trademark its games. The machines allow gamblers to play a form of bingo against others at the same location.
Four of the gambling sites are in Miami-Dade, including a jai-alai fronton and the shuttered thoroughbred track in Hialeah. Others are in Jacksonville, West Palm Beach, Naples and Ocala.
To qualify, a gambling center must be within 40 miles of an existing tribal casino or in a county with a population greater than 800, 000.
Unlike thousands of new slot machines at four Broward County parimutuels, the new sites would not be subject to public approval in a local referendum.
The new terminals would be taxed at the same 50 percent rate as the Broward slots. The bill directs the money be used to offset local property taxes that must be raised to support public schools, a tax known as the required local effort - RLE in policy circles.
"It's a tax cut, " said Rep. Stan Mayfield, R-Vero Beach, chairman of the House council that passed the bill.
The room, filled with lobbyists for gambling interests, erupted in knowing laughter at the link to property tax reduction.
Taxpayers will pay $545-million more in required local effort next year to run schools, after lawmakers made a decision to leave the tax rate unchanged even though rising property values have increased the revenue generated by the tax.
It's unclear what Gov. Charlie Crist will do if the gambling bill passes the House and Senate.
"If something like that were to come to my desk, obviously I'd have to look at it very closely, " Crist said.
Sen. Daniel Webster, R-Winter Garden, said the House was clearly making gambling a part of the tax debate. With Webster the Senate's lead negotiator with the House on property taxes, and an avowed opponent of more gambling in the state, this development would seem to be another obstacle to compromise.
But Webster sees a rising tide for the video games, called VLTs.
"VLTs would have passed by now except for Jeb Bush, " Webster said. "It's not a new issue, it's a new situation."
The House is pushing ahead with a video lottery terminal over the opposition of House Speaker Marco Rubio, R-West Miami, who repeated his opposition to any expansion of gaming.
Rubio campaigned with Bush to help defeat an earlier casino gambling referendum in Miami-Dade.
Rubio is employed by the law firm of Broad & Cassel, which has recently been retained to do limited legal work for Flagler Dog Track in Miami. A Rubio spokeswoman said the attorney handling the Flagler account was recently hired by the firm and has a long history of representing the track.
Rubio said he was not aware that his firm was being retained by the track.
The sponsor of the video lottery is one of Rubio's closest lieutenants, Rep. David Rivera, R-Miami, who defended it by noting that tribal casinos that offer similar video lottery terminals are "unregulated and untaxed."
At Monday's brief hearing, Nathan Dunn of Florida Family Action criticized the move and the scant public notice of a change he called "a significant if not the largest expansion of gambling in Florida's history."
The expansion of video lottery terminals has bipartisan support in the Senate, so passage is considered likely if the bill gets through the House.
But with four days left in the regular session, that may not be a sure thing.
A separate slot-machine bill, expanding the number of machines at the four Broward gambling dens, squeaked through the House on a 61-52 vote Monday.
Times staff writer Alex Leary and researcher Carolyn Edds contributed to this report. Steve Bousquet can be reached at bousquet@sptimes.com or (850) 224-7263.
[Last modified April 30, 2007, 23:58:03]
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by Richard
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11/07/07 02:06 PM
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Yes, let the tracks offer slot machines. Look at many states that are successful with this. The tracks here are regulated and ready. Amend the types of games tracks offer and the state takes a tax share. It's time for slots at Pari-Mutuels. Easy yes!
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by nick
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11/03/07 11:59 AM
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FINE..whatever it takes, get the burden off of us for God sake! Unreal situation.You move your taxes more than double!!!! Fighting it now--from $1700/year to $3853 for smaller house, less property!!!!!! Enough.
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by mike
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06/16/07 01:43 PM
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Mississippi senoir citizens pay no property taxes due to the tax monies brought in by the casinos. Florida wake up and keep our monies here in Florida. Imagine the increase in tourist monies brought down from up north,more than you can imagine.
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by Gerry
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06/14/07 08:20 PM
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There are few full time jobs here,the pay is low: if we had gambling "REAL" gambling there would be jobs and the people who gamble would spend their money in bay county. Who do I contact to help get it going? I would be glad to help any way I can.
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by Bette
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06/07/07 10:22 AM
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Any news of Las Vegas style gambling in this state?
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by Jerry
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05/25/07 09:31 PM
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We need Las Vegas type slot machine casino's in Brevard County. We travel 118 miles to Tampa, 168 miles to coconut creek, 628 miles to Biloxi, MS. It would be nice to have casino's in Brevard County. Would spend our money in Brevard--Hello!
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by Sheri
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05/13/07 12:11 PM
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If you want gambling like Nevada, why don't you check out the crime rate there. More people, more crime, less water, just what Florida needs. Cut gov. spending to cut taxes.
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by Richard
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05/13/07 12:08 PM
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Over a million people go out of Port Canaveral every year
Florida state gets nrevenue from them.
Brevard County gets no revenue from them.
Imagine the employment it would bring to the area.
Local suppliers, food , etc
A no brainer.
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by Shirley O'Dell
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05/06/07 10:33 AM
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I went to Biloxi 3 days every mo. until Katrina. Many go by plane bus, drive. All that money could help Fl. in taxes. Why give it all to Miss. or the Indian Reserv. Help the State of Fl. and make all gambling legal in Fl. Thousands of people want it!
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by John
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05/04/07 03:28 PM
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If we allow, I would rather create a Las Vegas maybe near South Florida that would have full gambling. None of this bits and pieces at pari-mutuals. Do it right or don't do it at all.
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by Liz
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05/04/07 02:10 PM
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Indian tribes are exempt from taxation.
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by Mike
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05/03/07 06:16 AM
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If gambling is regulated, and taxes it generates will go for tax relief, why not? This is smart business, and not at the expense of those who have less income. Move it quick legislators!!
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by carolyn
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05/02/07 06:19 PM
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Gambling is exactly what Florida needs. Vegas style is right. Nobody cares about fake machines. We want the real deal. Poker, blackjack etc. Keep the money here! It will reduce taxes. This is how many other states have done lower taxes.Say yes
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by Lola
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05/02/07 05:17 PM
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I think it is deplorable that this bill was slipped in this way, makes me think the the lobbyist run the state rather than elected officials. There are better ways to support the state than gambling. We need to find those ways.
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by Eddie
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05/02/07 01:32 AM
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I take issue w/ Rivera's statement that tribal casinos are "unregulated". Indian gaming is more regulated than most. They operate under the IGRA. FLA may not have regulatory authority, but only because of its own bad faith in negotiations w/ tribes.
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by Maria alvarez
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05/01/07 09:41 PM
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I will be praying for this nation!! which has forgotten it was stablish one nation under God!! They have taken prayers out of our school but yes they are putting gambling machines all over.think about it, is their something wrong with this picture?
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by Stephen & Donna
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05/01/07 09:29 PM
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Lawmakers consider gaming to help them cut property taxes, It's about time.
My wife and I are in favor of legalizing gambling in Florida and we wouldn't have a problem with Real Estate taxes.
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by aj
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05/01/07 07:34 PM
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Hey JT, get a clue. Legal gamlbing and prostuition work all over the world in the USA see Nevada. So take your moral issues to the skyway and throw them off and you can't wise up go with them. Less folks like yourself can only help.
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by sean
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05/01/07 06:59 PM
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why cant we cut the goverment fat we pay for everything they get it all for free why not let them live with u its b/s we have to keep swallowing the tab why not just become commies and call it a day thats where we are headed
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by JOHN
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05/01/07 04:06 PM
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We need to have more gambling in the state to help with the taxes,look at all the states in the country,they all can't be wrong.
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by delton
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05/01/07 04:02 PM
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Each year millions of dollars leave the state for gambling in vegas, baloxie cruise ships. We can keep it here.
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by laura
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05/01/07 02:09 PM
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florida will NEVER be the same.
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by Nancy
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05/01/07 02:03 PM
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It's a start, but not enough. Take the 35% the Seminoles offered us and save us from poverty!
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by Jim
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05/01/07 01:02 PM
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How about creating a whole Las Vegas around the "airport near no where" near Panama City?
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by John
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05/01/07 12:58 PM
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I'm against added gambling in parimutuals. The voters already said NO at the polls. I would support letting voters create full scale Las Vegas gaming in a small city, if people approve it at the polls.
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by PJK
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05/01/07 12:10 PM
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Legalized gaming machines to benefit the citizens? What a concept take the money out of the Indians hands and help pay our taxes. Finally somebody is using their head!
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by Bland
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05/01/07 11:48 AM
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State officials be careful of depending on the gambling industry in Florida. When Fidel Castro dies, soon I hope, Cuba will redevelop its old Casinos and Resorts as freedom arrives. As in the 50's the major gambling will be in Havana not in Miami.
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by Frank
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05/01/07 11:34 AM
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The stateis passing up the chance to survive by not legalizing gambling. Just look at the numbers elsewhere. The existing casinos need the competition and should have to pay the taxes as well.
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by JS
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05/01/07 11:05 AM
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"The new machines would pump at least $500-million in tax revenue into state coffers each year..." Sounds like a good idea to me. Nothing wrong with gambling. Not sure why a previous commenter brings up whorehouses and nude beaches. Totally unrelated
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by bob
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05/01/07 11:00 AM
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whatever it takes, the tax situation is unbearable. People are leaving the state in great numbers. It should be coupled with reduced government spending.
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by Kathy
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05/01/07 10:59 AM
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This isn't a long term fix. The only permanent "fix" is to fix the broken spending habits of government.
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by Ted
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05/01/07 10:56 AM
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Time to take away the monopoly and rip-off the Seminole Tribe has enjoyed for years !
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by boots
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05/01/07 10:35 AM
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Why not reap the tax benefits and help boost the real estate market. In the Tampa bay area the Seminoles have a monopoly. At least offer the public regulated video gaming in the tracks
with the opportunity to put money back into the state.
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by Joyce
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05/01/07 10:32 AM
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My friends and I travel to Biloxi, Las Vegas and Atlantic City... it would be nice to keep our money in Florida with real slot machines instead of those slots at the Indian Reservations.. what a rip-off.
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by Tom
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05/01/07 10:23 AM
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Smart move. Don't change property taxes to a sales tax because it hurts the poor. Install machines in dog tracks that will pay taxes on money played by rich people. I sure don't see a lot of rich people playing the machines at the Seminole Hard Rock.
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