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No-fault might be revived
Gov. Crist may place car insurance on the agenda for the Legislature's special session.
By JENNIFER LIBERTO
Published May 6, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - Gov. Charlie Crist said Saturday he may expand the agenda of the June special session on property taxes to give lawmakers another chance to come up with an automobile insurance fix.
On Oct. 1, the state's mandatory no-fault law will disappear because the Legislature ended its session Friday without agreeing to extend the law that requires motorists to carry a minimum amount of medical coverage for collision injuries no matter who is at fault.
It's the fourth year in a row that lawmakers have opted not to decide what kind of insurance Florida drivers should carry.
"I've already talked to the leadership about it. I think that having that kind of coverage is important, " said Crist. "It doesn't sunset until October, and obviously that gives us an opportunity to continue it."
During the past 36 years, state law has required all Florida drivers to buy $10, 000 medical insurance policies. But in 2003, amid complaints from insurance companies that no-fault coverage was a magnet for fraud, the Legislature set Oct. 1 as a sunset date for no-fault coverage, also known as Personal Injury Protection. The idea was to force lawmakers to find a way to restructure auto insurance to wipe out fraud. In years past, they have pushed back the deadline to give themselves another year.
The Legislature's inaction this year means a premium break for customers of State Farm, the state's largest private auto insurer. State Farm took a chance and filed a rate decrease with the Office of Insurance Regulation before the session, based on the assumption that lawmakers would allow the law to disappear.
State Farm spent most of the session lobbying to make that happen, holding out the incentive that their customers would save about $360 a year in a typical two-car family.
"It's just a rotten coverage, it only covers $10, 000 in medical benefits, and there's no cost controls on that medical coverage, " said Chris Neal, a State Farm spokesman.
Eliminating the no-fault mandatory coverage is good news for those who have health insurance, because they will no longer have to pay for medical coverage that duplicates their health plans.
But for those who don't have health insurance, the expiration of no-fault coverage means they may well be driving without any ability to cover costs if they injure themselves or others in a wreck.
That's why doctors and hospitals were urging the Legislature to leave no-fault intact. They fear a flood of patients coming through emergency rooms with auto injuries and no way to pay for treatment.
The problem is the House and Senate remain at odds on the issue.
The Senate passed a bill earlier this week that would have extended the state's no-fault law for four years, with $2.8-million toward fighting fraud. It died in the House.
"I've said from the beginning that we need to have significant measures, antifraud measures, and those didn't happen, " said House Speaker Marco Rubio after the session ended on Friday. "So the issue remains an October sunset unless something comes up in the interim."
[Last modified May 6, 2007, 07:33:16]
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by Judy
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06/10/07 08:41 PM
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I believe that the PIP insurance should be extended or replaced with an alternative, as a lot of people's income depend on it. I do not have any health coverage myself. It would be very deterimental for my family if PIP is ended.
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by chris
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06/09/07 03:22 PM
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As an insurance agent, i am FOR pip. Here is why: 40% of Floridians do NOT have health insurance, Healthcare insurance will go up, Hospitals and doctors will raise rates, and i GUARANTEE your rates do NOT go down for auto. Get real---this is auto
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by Marc
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05/22/07 07:30 PM
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If PIP is allowed to sunset, dont you think healthcare insurance rates will rise once they see they are paying for automobile injuries?? And why do I have to purchase extra coverage when people will be driving with no insuarance at all. Extend PIP!!!
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by Don
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05/09/07 09:20 PM
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PIP is something the insurance industry silently pushed into law, UNTIL they realized it was easier to get medical attention than it was suing the other insurance, such morons, such, such crooks the insurance clowns are
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by Don
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05/09/07 09:17 PM
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Chris Neal from State Farmers, say what you really mean DUH, in other words you have to pay the medical and NOT screw claiments out of it right????
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by Don
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05/09/07 09:15 PM
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Gee here is an idea that is really simple, it is not people frauding the insurance as much as insurance is frauding us, pass a law that says the insurance HAS to pay on claims instead of spending millions to in BS legal bull to not pay us
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by frank
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05/09/07 12:12 PM
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If you cause an auto accident and you and your family are injured and have no insurance how will your medical bills get paid in a fault environment? Don't assume the party not at fault can be the only one injured. That is naive logic.
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by frank lanzisera
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05/08/07 07:03 PM
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Like I've stated in another post I have performed independent medical examinations for over 20 years in FL. There is some fraud, no doubt, but not rampant as some here have proclaimed. Show me a study showing a majority of fraud. put up or shutup.
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by Tyler
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05/08/07 07:00 PM
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The Question - Who will pay your medical bills if PIP does not exist - How about Med Pay coverage - you have the choice to purchase the added coverage w/o the state mandating coverage. Let's take responsibility for our own households.
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by frank lanzisera
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05/07/07 08:56 PM
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I have performed thousands of independent medical examinations over my 25 year career as a chiropractor in Florida on PIP cases. The majority of offices charge a reasonable fee for the services they have performed contrary to Insurance man's opinion.
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by RR
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05/07/07 08:46 PM
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The frequent commenters here really need to get a life. You sound like you went to St. Farm's school of the Anti-PIP. You are so coached. Insurance man..you have no idea what it takes to be a health care provider today. GO back to your cubicle.
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by John
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05/07/07 04:29 PM
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When applying for auto insurance you should have to show you have health coverage of $10k or more - and if you do you should be able to waive PIP, if you don't you should be required to carry it.
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by Josh
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05/07/07 03:10 PM
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I'm with JT, I pay enough for my medical insurance already without having to pay more duplicate coverage from my auto policy. Not to mention the rampant fraud- you can still buy an optional coverage if you don't have other health insurance.
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by Insurance Man
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05/07/07 02:42 PM
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The system is broken because there are no fee schedules, unlike every other PIP state in the USA. What that means is Chiros charge outrageous fees to the PIP carrier for treatment and then black mail with a lawsuit if they do not get the payment.
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by david
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05/06/07 12:50 PM
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As evidenced by the house the Insurance Company dollars took precedent over what is good for the people of Florida. The sunset of No Fault is an abomination and every member of the house should not be re-elected as they have demonstrated they do not
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by phyllis
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05/06/07 11:20 AM
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I ask the Senate & the House, whose going to pay for the medical bills of those that are hit by someone that has no insurance? Drs. and hospitals will go broke waiting 2 years for settlement of a case to get paid. They are creating a worse problem.
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by Tad
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05/06/07 08:59 AM
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So, State Farm and BIG INSURANCE attempt to twist the laws again. Big Premiums, no coverage and obscene profits. But this is America, land where profits rule, and to hell with people. Nice!!!!!
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by JT
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05/06/07 07:56 AM
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I want to drop PIP as I already pay $850mth for health ins so I don't need it. I am tired of paying for a bunch of dead beats, cheats and ambulance chasers. If there are those that want PIP then let them buy it for themselves and stop ripping me off
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by Moustache Peet
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05/06/07 06:05 AM
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So let me get this straight. You run over my foot in a parking lot. I get medical treatment costing say $3000.00. My health insurance has to cover the costs? Then they have sue your ins co to recover the $$. The lawyers win again! Gotta love it!
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by Irv
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05/06/07 01:48 AM
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Marco Rubio does a great job representing State Farm and the Indians,how does one man have enough power to ruin the needs of the entire state, and how much were or are his gifts from their lobbyists? How many uninsured will there be in Fl?
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