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No stadium in on-deck circle

Rays owner Stuart Sternberg reiterates his pledge not to go to bat for a new ballpark.

By MARC TOPKIN AND AARON SHAROCKMAN
Published May 9, 2007


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ST. PETERSBURG - The Devil Rays eventually will need a new stadium to replace Tropicana Field.

But they're not expecting one soon.

The team's principal owner, Stuart Sternberg, raised some eyebrows by telling the New York Times in Tuesday's editions that Tropicana Field, the domed stadium that cost nearly $220-million in taxpayer funds, will be obsolete in five years.

"Baseball does not feel right indoors," Sternberg told the paper for a story about the Rays moving three home games next week to Orlando.

Sternberg clarified his comments later in the day, telling the St. Petersburg Times that there is no deadline for a new ballpark and that he'll keep his promise never to demand one.

But Sternberg also said he doesn't think the Trop, which opened in 1990, can be the team's home for the 20 years remaining on its city lease.

"I know we have to be here at least five years, and I know we can't be here for 20," Sternberg said. "Now that we've been in here a little bit longer and done all the improvements, we can really see the issues structurally within the building.

"It's not an option that it will last another 15 or 20 years," he said.

City Council member Bill Foster said he was glad to see Sternberg backpedal.

"We all know it wasn't built like Wrigley Field. We're not going to have it forever," Foster said. "But with all due respect to Mr. Sternberg, I kind of doubt he's ever spent July and August in South Florida in the cheap seats."

The city has plenty of reasons to balk at the idea of a new stadium now.

The city still has $108-million in outstanding loans to pay for the construction of Tropicana Field, with the stadium not being paid off until 2025.

The city also holds a lease that ties the Rays to Tropicana Field through the 2027 season. It's unlikely the city would let the Rays break the lease if the team tried to leave the city.

And the city is staring down potentially huge mandated budget cuts by the State Legislature and a citizenry already feeling overtaxed.

"I think the Trop is a great facility right now. It's a great facility for baseball," Mayor Rick Baker said. But, "if Stu were to come up with a plan and it were going to be for a stadium in the city and it didn't cost any more city money, I would at least take a look at it."

When he took over the team in October 2005, Sternberg said that he would never demand a new stadium. He reiterated that promise Tuesday. "Absolutely," he said. "I was extra clear a year and a half ago, and nothing has changed."

The Rays have invested about $18-million in stadium-related upgrades over the last two years with the idea the team would be at Tropicana Field for a while, Sternberg said.

Talk about a new Rays stadium comes as efforts have so far failed to obtain any state funding for a new South Florida stadium for baseball's Florida Marlins. Also, the Rays are moving their spring training home to Port Charlotte.

The support of the Tampa Bay area and the state would be needed to replace the Trop, Sternberg said.

"Given the scope of the project, it's got to make economic sense and it's got to make civic sense," Sternberg said.

"If we do our job right as an organization (in improving the franchise), I would expect that it would make it that much easier and that much clearer that it would be the right thing for the municipalities and the Devil Rays."

[Last modified May 9, 2007, 00:05:41]


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by mark 05/28/07 09:58 AM
first i would like to see disney invest in them an the marlins. instead of the braves any at all. i think from the city point he sould have a plain that help pay what the city owe. i like to see a renovation lain that cheeper in the long run.
by dustin 05/27/07 07:26 PM
in a large part MLB Baseball in FL, has been a total failure, the only time you guys show up is during the play-offs, and since when did both FL teams ever have a sell out during the reg. season anyway!
by Brandon 05/11/07 09:42 AM
Who says that Miami doesn't have a problem filling the stadium? You need to open your eyes. They are "packing in" maybe 5,000 fans. Most organizations are getting more than double that attendence, and the Marlins more Titles than my BRAVES. Trouble!
by agatha 05/11/07 07:31 AM
The stadium belongs in Hillsborough. Period. Location doesn't matter, however, when the tight-fisted owners won't spend money on a pitching staff and a manager that knows his fanny from third base.
by Bill 05/09/07 11:03 PM
Everyone has their own idea of what baseball should be depending on where they grew up where they attended live games. They should develop the entire Trop area and bring an assortment of businesses around the field and not just at the waterfront.
by john 05/09/07 10:30 PM
put more money into the madness, fricking unbelievable ......
by susan 05/09/07 09:00 PM
I've been to Miami in the summer to see a baseball game,no fun, way too humid and a LOT of empty seats. I love going to the Trop and have been going since the beginning. Improvements have been great. Looks more like a baseball stadium. Need pitching
by Melinda 05/09/07 07:16 PM
This team gives SO MUCH to the community. I would be willing to pay an extra 20% in property taxes to build a new state of the art stadium. We don't want to lose the high paying jobs!!!
by Frank 05/09/07 07:13 PM
When I have to be outside in a 97 degree Florida summer to watch a game I wont be buying tickets! There is nothing wrong with the Dome!
by Bob 05/09/07 06:31 PM
If you guys think a new stadium will be located anywhere in St. Pete, your head is in the same clouds as Mayor Baker's. He knows Sternberg and MLB would love to the Rays to be in Tampa. The reasons are simply too many to mention in this small space
by Paul 05/09/07 06:12 PM
Sternberg said the Rays will contend for the A.L. East TITLE next year.Start considering plans for a new/improved stadium when this happens. Accoring to Sternberg thats only 1 year away. In reality it will be after the current lease expires in 2027.
by Lisa 05/09/07 04:49 PM
Support your team. That is the best way to get revenue in. Go and have a good time. Show your kids baseball is not what they play on a video game. That will bring the money in.
by Carrie 05/09/07 04:43 PM
I agree about the storms and lightning. If a new stadium is built it should be multi use(conventions, concerts) and either be a dome or a retractable roof. Market the current stadium for other things and bring in more money.
by John 05/09/07 03:30 PM
A dome makes sense in the lightning capitol of the US. 4 pm summer T-storms are a certainty. Rays need to earn the right to ask for a stadium with pennants and one day a World Series Win. If the Dome ain't, don't fix it, but the pitching is broke.
by Bob 05/09/07 03:05 PM
No more money for million dollar sports teams. Use what you have or leave.
by Kevin 05/09/07 01:34 PM
Look at the census numbers on Pinellas and Hillsborough counties. Growth in the last 6 yrs for Hillsborough was 16.9%. Growth in Pinellas was less than 1%. Hillsborough already has more people and they are still growing, not to mention pasco to the N
by PS 05/09/07 01:26 PM
Bucs play outside in the heat, in pads. Fans show up for them.
by DW 05/09/07 01:20 PM
I hate the Trop w/a passion. It's ugly and sterile. People move here from all over for the weather but that weather isn't good enough to play in? Retractable roof when the feels like temp exceeds a set temp. 1st focus on the team though.
by Lisa 05/09/07 01:03 PM
Better promotion needed. The Brewers owner has given a "free" game to fans. Reach out in the community more. They can do it. More promotions, more people coming in then more money made.
by Julian 05/09/07 12:59 PM
Baseball doesn't belong inside. Building the dome was a bad call from the start. Marlins attendance doesn't appear to be suffering as a result of an open air stadium. Bad teams heighten the misery. Consider any Buccaneer game through October.
by Gene 05/09/07 12:21 PM
Read what he said, they are happy with the Trop for at least 5 years. If they win, crowds (team and city revenue) will increase, value to the area will be obvious. Build retractable dome in Gateway, where the Trop should be in the first place!
by James 05/09/07 12:16 PM
I went to a Marlins game in August a few years back. I wasn't even in the cheep seats and the seats were $20 each in the shade. We were miserable. My attention was focused on wiping sweat off and we left early. ever been to a Bucs game is September?
by BT 05/09/07 12:10 PM
Winning is difficult when Clemens makes more than your team. Rays have no revenue. The Trop is an hour away from the three biggest growing areas in Tampa Bay (New Tampa/N. Suncoast and Brandon/Riverview). Fans=money. Location, Location, Location!!
by Lisa 05/09/07 12:08 PM
You cannot lose the Rays. The stigma of losing a major league team will affect your city for a long time. You need to promote the team more. Promote more about the Rays and less about the Bucs.
by MIKE 05/09/07 11:58 AM
I CAN SEE THIS AS THE BEGINNING OF THE END OF MLB IN ST. PETE, BUT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. IF THEY WANT A NEW STADIUM, THEN LET THE RAYS PAY FOR IT, NOT THE OVERBURDENED TAX PAYERS. THE POLICE, TEACHERS, FIRE FIGHTERS ET AL HAVE ALL BEEN FORSAKEN TO LONG
by Lee 05/09/07 11:56 AM
I went to one game at the trop, it was all I needed to convince me. Baseball is meant to be played outside. So what, it gets hot here, gets hot in Cincinnati, Chicago, and a host of other places I have been. Give us real baseball.
by Darren 05/09/07 11:29 AM
Take a look at Baltimore. The Os owner is the scum of the Earth, but the stadium and its businesses close by are very nice. Definately make a trip enjoyable and draws tourists on top of fans. Why not do that in St. Pete? Everyone would win.
by GB 05/09/07 11:16 AM
I personally like the "indoor" stadium. We get a lot of rain and being indoors makes that part nice. How about making the top retractable? Its a great stadium and Sternberg has done some nice fixes to it. Now we need winning players.
by ME 05/09/07 11:01 AM
This guy's crazy. Let's focus on putting a team together that isn't the worst team in baseball year after year before asking taxpayers for millions of dollars for a new stadium that's unnecessary . He can't even fill the seats at the Trop.
by Sam 05/09/07 10:54 AM
Who is Bill Foster kidding?? I would love to spend a beautiful July day in the cheap seats outside. They seem to do it in Miami without problem.
by Sammy 05/09/07 10:27 AM
We moved here from Chicago and recently went to our first game at the Trop. It's a far cry from the atmosphere at Wrigley, but I can't imagine going to outdoor baseball games here, due to the heat. Maybe improve the team, & leave the stadium alone!?
by JJ 05/09/07 10:20 AM
The Suncoast Dome was built at the wrong time. It came right before new beautiful parks in Baltimore and Cleveland. Tropicana Field is already obsolete. Had the White Sox or Giants been playing in it for 20 years, it would be time to go right now.
by Chris 05/09/07 10:20 AM
I love the idea of a new retractable roof stadium either wholly or partially financed by D-Rays ownership. I think it should be located in Downtown Tampa to draw the biggest crowds, at a minimum just over the bridge on the St. Pete side but no more.
by jime 05/09/07 09:52 AM
two old indian sayings come to mind: "white man speak with forked tongue", and "BOHICA"-- for "bend over, here it comes again". both apply to sternberg. get rid of baseball now and give that dome land to USF for a real USF-SP campus !!
by Lisa 05/09/07 09:50 AM
Base your new stadium on Miller Park in Milwaukee. The retractable roof is great. If it is rainy/too cold we close the roof. There are separate side panals so fresh air can still come in. On a warm sunny day the roof is open.
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