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Pinellas

Stanton uses status to lobby

Doors open more easily for Susan thanks to her celebrity.

By LORRI HELFAND
Published May 16, 2007


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[Times photo: Douglas R. Clifford]
Susan Ashley Stanton leaves Congressman C.W. Bill Young's office after meeting with him on Tuesday. Stanton is visiting Washington to lobby Congress and celebrate with members of the National Center for Transgender Equality.

WASHINGTON -- As Largo's city manager for 14 years, Steve Stanton worked with Rep. C.W. Bill Young's office, but never met the long-term Florida congressman face to face.

But Tuesday, as a fired transgender official, Susan Stanton, chatted with Young in his Capitol office for almost an hour.

"As a city manager, I had no status," said Stanton, 48, who spent the day as a woman, a couple of weeks before she plans to make her transition full time. "I probably have more status now than I had before."

Nearly two months after being fired as Largo's city manager after announcing plans to become a woman, Stanton was one of about 120 people from 30 states who lobbied Congress on behalf of a pair of proposed laws: One that would protect gay and transgender people from employment discrimination; the other would expand federal hate crimes legislation to cover gay and transgender people who are victims of violence.

Stanton said she wasn't looking for a commitment to support the legislation on the spot. "Some people are receptive to the message. Others are in the wait and see mode," she said. "I ask them to reach out and educate themselves."

And some of that education was firsthand.

As Stanton and other transgender advocates walked into Young's office about 11:30 a.m., Young told Stanton, "You need to realize that this may be a little awkward for me. I've never dealt with anyone in this situation before."

"This is a little awkward for me, too," Stanton replied.

Young appreciated the candor: "That broke the ice and we had a nice conversation," Young, R-Indian Shores, said later.

He said he spoke with Stanton mostly about the nondiscrimination bill sponsored by Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who is openly gay. Young said he told Stanton he hadn't read the bill but would discuss it with Frank.

"We talked about a lot of things, frankly very personal, about her experience and the things that have been in the newspaper already," Young said.

Young has not said if he will support Frank's bill. But he said he signed a commitment that a person's sexual orientation and gender identity would not be a consideration in employment decisions for his congressional office.

About a dozen states have passed legislation to protect gay and transgender people from employment discrimination. A few of those recently passed bills are awaiting governor's signatures. But most states, including Florida, don't have laws to protect those groups.

The self-appointed lobbyists' message Tuesday: People are going to be fired for being transgender "until we have a law that says you can't cross that line," Stanton said.

The Largo City Commission fired Stanton in late March, just a few weeks after he disclosed his transition plans. Stanton, who has undergone hormone treatments and electrolysis to remove body hair, began a public transition to being a woman in earnest last week after she posed for a portrait for a story that ran Sunday in the St. Petersburg Times.

She plans to undergo gender reassignment surgery and was picked Tuesday as one of six finalists for the job of Sarasota city manager.

Stanton also met Tuesday with staffers for Rep. Kathy Castor, D-Tampa, and Sens. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., Mel Martinez, R-Fla., and Ted Kennedy, D-Mass., whose staff told advocates that he anticipated sponsoring the Senate version of the Frank bill.

Not all the visits went as well as Young's, allowed Amanda Simpson of Tucson, Ariz., a test pilot for Raytheon and a board member of the National Center for Transgender Equality, which organized the lobbying effort. She spent most of the day with Stanton.

"We'll just say it was a courtesy appointment," Simpson said of a visit to Martinez's office.

Tuesday was the final full day of a four-day trip to Washington for Stanton, who started her day about 4:30 a.m., after sleeping for a couple of hours. About 8 a.m., she searched the street near her hotel looking for a restaurant that served salad. After a few failed attempts, she settled on grilled cheese.

About 9:15 a.m., she took a 90-minute tour near the Capitol with a crew from CNN, which is planning a documentary about her. She wrapped up her day, spent wearing a tomato red sweater tank and black sacks with a lace sash, about 6 p.m.

Stanton said her goal Tuesday was to put a human face on the issues facing transgender people. She just wanted lawmakers to listen to her story, and they did. Her visit with Young was a highlight.

"Both he and I are in a very unique position to make an impact much greater than my city or his district," she said.

Times Washington bureau chief Bill Adair contributed to this report. Lorri Helfand can be reached at lorri@sptimes.com or at (727) 445-4155.

[Last modified May 15, 2007, 23:57:55]


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by Suzie 05/16/07 09:59 PM
OMG, would you stop covering this story as if Stanton were going to a debutante ball? Do we have to hear about everything she wears and eats, etc.? Ask her some serious questions about what it means to be a woman in our society.
by Peter 05/16/07 05:01 PM
This society has become about the rights of the few. Sexual deviants, perverts, cross dressers, etc. etc. have more rights then the majority do. Stanton is now the poster "woman" for Mothers Day according to the Post. God help us all.
by Maury 05/16/07 03:54 PM
How does Congress find the time to put up with such perverse nonsense? More important issues are at hand.
by Jason 05/16/07 02:55 PM
Bravo to the St. Pete Times for attempting to educate the ignorant. Stories like this show the vast differences in our society. People forget that God created us in his image. Perhaps Susan is here to teach us...teach us tolerance & acceptance.
by mike 05/16/07 01:09 PM
No Barbara, thank god we've never had to live through the torment of having a husband or father decide to throw our lives into chaos so he can be free to prance around in panties and indulge his abberant fetish.
by Bob 05/16/07 12:35 PM
What is his status? He says he is not a he, he is not a she that is for sure. Then I guess his status is "it"
by Al 05/16/07 12:23 PM
Most of us have 2 Chromosomes, have you ever been tested for what yours is, some males have xx or even xxy and never know it. Some with females some have xy or xyy. No one should ever be judged on there outsides. It's the person inside that matter.
by Brant 05/16/07 11:48 AM
Helen: "HE has two chromosomes." Does that mean that women just have one? mike: "If I decide that I was supposed to be born a dog, do I just put a collar on and bark to make it so?" No, but there are safe places that cater to such fantasies.
by Helen 05/16/07 11:32 AM
HE is a MAN. HE has two chromosomes. HE has MALE genitals.
by H J 05/16/07 11:15 AM
I read this paper to keep up on the news I am so sick of this guy and his story. Why don't you stop with his selfishness and report on what problems, embarassment and living hell this must be for his wife and son
by Barbara 05/16/07 11:11 AM
Too bad that uninformed red-necks are the only people that respond to stories that they have no clue about. They should be thanking God that they have not had to live through the torment that transexuals have been delt through no fault of their own.
by mike 05/16/07 11:02 AM
Enough already with the "her" and "she." If I decide that I was supposed to be born a dog, do I just put a collar on and bark to make it so? Stanton is a silly male dressed up like a woman. Nothing more, nothing less.
by aaron 05/16/07 10:28 AM
I will never buy another edition of the Sp Times. They are giving Stanton to much time on the front page. Stanton's quote says it all, "I probably have more status now than ever before." This is a huge scam to gain publicity.
by TOM 05/16/07 09:55 AM
Is The St. Pete Times reporting news or pushing an ultra liberal agenda.
by Dallas 05/16/07 09:23 AM
Reality=No matter what he has done or does in the future, the fact that he is a guy in a dress that once was the male Largo City Manager is the only reason that the newspaper and the public have a morbid fascination with this uninspiring weirdo.
by Lindsey 05/16/07 09:15 AM
I'm guessing by most of the comments here, that everyone here is old. As a member of a younger generation, we are accepting of people no matter who or what they are. As my 14 years of Catholic school has taught me: we are all equal in Gods eyes.
by rt 05/16/07 09:10 AM
Can we get on with life. Why is this front page news all the time.There is much more inportant news than this.
by Hal 05/16/07 09:07 AM
Seems like Stanton has some mental health issues ;is delusional at the very least .Still looks like a man ,and always will look manly.Why is this news?
by Karen 05/16/07 08:48 AM
As a mother, a former public servant in Largo, and a public relations practitioner, I am ashamed of the St. Petersburg Times for considering Ms. Stanton for the front page photo on Mother's Day.
by Laura 05/16/07 08:21 AM
Vic: Those who quietly do their job and have the inner pride don't need the publicity. We know they are the real heroes and silently honor.
by Brant 05/16/07 08:14 AM
Jim, for the right fee, I'll be happy to call you "Spider Man."
by AJ 05/16/07 08:06 AM
Why is everyone referring to this MAN as a WOMAN?!? It's sad what the media finds newsworthy these days. Lets focus on the real news and let Steve deal with his own issues. For once can the media think of this mans poor wife and teenage son?
by Vic 05/16/07 07:28 AM
How many mothers are serving in the military and the St. Pete Times puts Stanton all over the Mother's day front page... nice call
by jim 05/16/07 06:09 AM
Being attracted to the same sex is one thing--expecting everyone to treat you AS IF you are another sex is delusional. If I decided to call myself the Lone Ranger, would the Times start referring to me as Lone or Ranger or both in its reports.
by kris 05/16/07 05:50 AM
"status", so this is what he wants in life......
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