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Tall hotel-condo denied
The project meets current zoning, but a city review board calls it out of scale for the area.
By PAUL SWIDER
Published May 17, 2007
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[Special to the Times]
Art Rendering of Westin Hotel condo/hotel projects downtown that were denied by the Environmental Development Commission. "The scale and mass are out of proportion" for the area, said chairman David Punzak.
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The mass and scale of opposition from downtown-area residents Wednesday convinced the Environmental Development Commission to deny a Tampa developer's plan to build a 33-story building on Fifth Avenue N and First Street. "They listened very attentively, and they heard us," said Nicole Durkin, a resident of the adjacent Old Northeast neighborhood and the attorney who represented several groups in opposition to a Westin hotel and condominium building that would have been the most dense project approved in the city in years. A parade of nearly 70 people spent more than three hours telling the commission they thought the building's 260 hotel rooms and 111 condos would bring excess traffic and parking problems to the edge of their residential neighborhoods. They also displayed a picture that showed the proposed 537,000-square-foot project wouldn't be appropriate for a neighborhood because it would even dwarf buildings in the downtown's core. While the project by Fuel Group International had gained staff approval because it met the letter of the zoning laws, commission members voted 6-1 against it on the grounds it did not uphold the spirit of the city's comprehensive plan and would disrupt the harmony of the area. "The scale and mass are out of proportion," said chairman David Punzak, who echoed others in saying he liked the project but wished it was in the heart of downtown, not its edge. "I wish it could be a couple 1-irons to the south." Fuel Group's attorney, Ron Weaver, said he, too, wished the company had property farther south, but his client had bought this property in good faith and expected to be able to exercise legitimate development rights. He said Fuel Group will likely appeal the decision to the City Council, but the city staff said scheduling won't allow that appeal for at least two months. Weaver also countered neighbors' claims that the developer was trying to sneak in a project under old laws before city land development regulations change later this summer. He said planning on the project started two years ago when the city's new rules were very much in flux. Durkin conceded from the opening that the project had met code and that's why the staff had approved it. While she urged the commissioners to consider the total effect of such a development, other neighbors took exception to the project being taken seriously at all. "You rely too much on staff," said Sally Ann Lawson, who owns property across the street from the project. "They're basically clerks. What you have here (in the neighborhood) are experts." Indeed, among those opposing the project were architect Tim Clemmons, who prepared the comparison drawing and who also is about to complete a condo building next to the site. Also voicing opposition was developer Dan Harvey, who has offered Fuel Group his nearby land that some said would be more suitable for the project. Neighbors also were upset that the nearly 400-foot-tall building would cast long winter shadows on their homes. A "shadow study," the first the city has ever required of a developer, showed darkness covering areas as much as two blocks north for as long as two hours a day. Sharon Heal-Eichler was the sole vote in favor of the project. She said she couldn't deny the developer what others nearby had been granted. She also felt concerns were overblown. "I do not see this as a monstrosity that will destroy the Northeast neighborhood," she said. Durkin said the quick, decisive vote was a bit of a surprise, based on the commission's history, but that the timing played a part. With the new regulations in reach and this project not addressing the community process that created those laws, it leaned toward the future. "This is a statement by the EDC," she said, "that we've already decided the vision for the city."
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by Chuck
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05/25/07 10:09 AM
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Good job EDC. The Signature Place projec with its world class architecture made the panel wake up that St. Pete deserves better and that the city should not settle for the same old mediocre designs that mar the landscape.
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by Steve
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05/17/07 09:43 PM
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Considering the hearing was midday, having 70 informed caring citizens attend a long hearing is good news for St. Pete. Every city should be as lucky to have such stauch citizen advocates who educate themselves as these folks did. Congrats to them.
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by Pat
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05/17/07 04:14 PM
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Just who is going to live in all these condos being built?
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by Jackson
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05/17/07 03:35 PM
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A majority of the comments here are without merit by uninformed persons who know little about the processes. The City should not grant any FAR bonuses or airport zoning variances which results in legitimate development rights as sited by Fuel's rep.
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by Bill
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05/17/07 03:08 PM
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The sad thing is about barely meeting laws... what about the neighborhood and keeping St Pete a nice looking place. This is replacing Mansion House, such a shame and such blatant disregard for St Pete. Save St Pete no more Fuel Group. No more condos!
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by r
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05/17/07 02:32 PM
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perhaps the city council can 'rethinks' the Eagle Crest area, too! Thanks!
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by Mary
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05/17/07 01:44 PM
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Apparantly, very few people understand that development is COURT driven. Case law says local Gov can't stop people from developing unless the Gov is willing to BUY the property in question.
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by John
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05/17/07 01:38 PM
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2 months from now the new LDRS will be in effect and any new development will be beholden to them. This project won't pass muster at that point - and that's why they tried the end-run now. This project will get built, just a more scaled down version.
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by frank
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05/17/07 01:24 PM
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Downtown St. Pete is looking more and more like downtown Miami, over built and vacant.
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by john
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05/17/07 01:14 PM
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sounds like a good project to revitalize the south side of st petersburg
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by Heidi
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05/17/07 12:22 PM
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I am a property owner in the Old NE, several blocks north of the site, and I am ELATED with the EDC decision! I don't know Ms. Durkin but appreciate she and others could attend the meeting since many of us could not.
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by Carl T
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05/17/07 12:18 PM
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Anyone who thinks this monstrosity would be good for St. Pete hasn't been to South Florida lately. Tall hotel/condo's liter what was once nice and accessible beach front property. Don't bring Miami road-rage attitude to St. Pete.
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by Eric
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05/17/07 11:30 AM
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What a waste of time. They OWN the property and their plans fall into the city guidelines. LET THEM BUILD THE CONDO/HOTEL.
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by stew
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05/17/07 11:11 AM
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The EDC caved to a handful of self appointed activists claiming to represent a neighborhood. The city cannot afford to send a message to developers that they are unwelcomed and their projects will be delayed or killed.
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by Marley
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05/17/07 10:25 AM
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How interesting that other (less affluent) neighborhoods are going through the same thing but the council is approving those! Maybe because Sembler isn't involved THIS time to donate money.
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by Barbara
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05/17/07 10:04 AM
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It's about time City of St. Pete listened to residents. Good thing Rick Baker wasn't on this board, he would have approved it and made sure it went forward. He's already ruined the rest of SP, don't be surprised that he's after your neighborhood too.
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by Pete
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05/17/07 09:55 AM
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Hey why not cut the top off build it with more in keeping with the historic look and build a hotel not a condo-tel. Why not just 8 floors and make it fit the area?
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by Paul
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05/17/07 09:47 AM
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Put aside all the lawyers and rules... how could any developer with any sense of community decency build such an eyesore, vanilla monster in a neighborhood? If these Fuel Group guys showup near any of my properties, I'll be watching very closely.
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by Jim
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05/17/07 09:44 AM
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Linda, you are nuts. Your obviously going to benefit $$$ somehow... park the Lexus and put away your diamond earings and get a grip on reality. The building is too big and does not belong in a neighborhood.
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by Jo
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05/17/07 09:29 AM
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They should re-apply to build it next to Sharon Eichler's house.
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by Patrice
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05/17/07 09:22 AM
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I wasn't able to attend the meeting but I was able to send an email as I am sure many have regarding this project. Anyway you look at it this project was not appropriate for this area. Let's not have green space become an issue here too.
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by Lorene
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05/17/07 08:40 AM
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I feel that the people making the negative decision are not qualified to that extent. A highly qualified review board should be consulted.
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by Laura
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05/17/07 08:32 AM
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Face it folks, money will talk. Unfortuanely, Linda is probably right. Who cares about the impact on TAX PAYING property owners? Why can' Fuel knock off a few stories? Oops, that might decrease profits-you'd have to buy a sedan instead of an SUV.
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by Linda
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05/17/07 07:57 AM
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The opposition of this ALREADY APPROVED structure has done NOTHING but cost taxpayers money as FUEL will appeal and WIN since they have met the zoning criteria. Ms. Durkin was not 'hired' by ANYONE & represents the views of VERY FEW people in Old NE.
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by Sydni Shollenberger
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05/17/07 07:23 AM
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Having observed the EDC in action since 1998 and having spoken before the body, I am elated at witnessing for the first time the commissioners listening to residents and neighbors instead of ONLY to developmental interests and City staff. A new era?
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