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Wiccans support their own
They answer a call in a woman's bid to offer "spiritual counseling."
By JODIE TILLMAN
Published June 6, 2007
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[Times photo: Lance Aram Rothstein]
Teresa Gurnell, a Wiccan who wants to offer "spiritual counseling" at her New Age gift shop speaks at the New Port Richey city council meeting on Tuesday.
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NEW PORT RICHEY - Evening fell, and the Wiccans arrived at the appointed hour.
Wearing sundresses, jeans and pentagrams, they took their places. They and their fellow pagans pledged allegiance to the U.S. flag, heard the proclamation of June as hurricane awareness month, and listened to a shout-out to the garden club for its dedication to the planter at Main and Bank streets.
And then, one by one Tuesday night, they approached the New Port Richey City Council and spoke of constitutional rights and diversity, admonishing the mayor for his questioning of Wiccan Teresa Gurnell last month.
"Your comments to me were very inappropriate, " Gurnell told Mayor Dan Tipton.
Last month, Gurnell appeared before the council to request approval for her to offer "spiritual counseling" and classes at her New Age gift shop, the Dragon Den.
City code says nothing about whether such services can be located in the downtown, so the council had to decide whether to allow such services as a "conditional use."
Gurnell faced tough questioning from Tipton last month. He wanted to know whether the counseling included witchcraft and whether she planned on trying to visit the dead.
Gurnell was frank: "Deceased people come to give me messages for people."
So was Tipton: "Okay, I'm not going to support this."
Her request passed that night, 3-2. But she needed a second, final hearing. She put out the word in the pagan community, through word-of-mouth and pagan Internet sites. About 50 or so showed up, some of them saying they wanted the mayor to know they aren't all that different from other people.
"I live in a gated community. I'm a Republican, " said New Port Richey resident Michelle Flood, who is a Wiccan, before the meeting. "And I vote."
Regalia was kept to a minimum. Two shamans arrived in heavy black robes, looked around and thought better of it. They returned to their car and came back in black jeans and T-shirts.
They spoke for nearly an hour. A "medicine man" who lives on Meadow Lane, the reverend of a Druid grove and others, including a man who said Gurnell had given him bad advice in the past.
Even former deputy mayor Bob Langford admonished Tipton. "I think the Constitution of the United States protects this very thing, " he said.
Then the council prepared to vote again. Tipton thanked everyone for turning out but said none of them had changed his mind.
Nor did council member Bob Consalvo, who said nearly all the correspondence he had received from residents was against the spiritual counseling classes.
The measure passed, 3-2. The council moved on to an amendment to a building code ordinance and the crowd moved outside, with less spiritual plans.
"Hey, Michelle, " one called out. "What's the name of that restaurant on 19?"
[Last modified June 6, 2007, 01:17:23]
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by audrey
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06/17/07 01:02 AM
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wiccans will gather no matter what, we will not hide, we are human beings just like everyone else, we love and cry live and die, we follow a diffrent path, a path of love for my fellow man. I belong to Robin's Hood CommUnity Center check it out.
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by Ruairi
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06/16/07 11:01 PM
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Jeanene, No one is stopping you or anyone else from praying at school. They are stopping you from inflicting your prayers on anyone who beleives differently. Lack of disapline by parents is what is wrong with school today. I know I teach elementary.
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by Dina
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06/16/07 02:40 PM
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I agree with Frederique. And little by little, we're finding this so-called freedom isn't as free as it once was. I think Gurnell's idea is great. I wish I knew about this, I would've come. -Dina, Eclectic Pagan
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by Mary
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06/15/07 11:00 AM
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When you start messing with people's rights, you have to expect your own to be messed with. Repression goes both ways. Leave the pagans alone lest the Christians lose ground, too.
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by Stardust
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06/13/07 12:47 PM
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Regarding comments: I think Christians should stop JUDGING and start practice what Jesus wanted--LOVE. And what right do X'n's have to decide that someone else's soul is in trouble? Mine isn't. Don't pray for me. A Neo-pagan Witch & real Christian
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by Sandy
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06/13/07 12:44 PM
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If it is not harmful or illegal and meets the criteria, it should be allowed. Anyway, I thought anything to do with religious or spiritual or holistic health (body/mind/spirit) and life coaching is exempt for having to be licensed.
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by Mike
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06/12/07 09:16 PM
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Frank, IF as you say "fortune telling it is a fraud and the public should be protected" then synagogues, mosques and churches based on the Bible or Koran should be closed as well since all are based on prophets and their prophecies of the future.
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by Jeanene
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06/10/07 04:53 PM
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Go Mayor Tipton & Bob Consalvo.in voting against what you think is NOT beneficial for our city. If more people stood up for what was right instead of doing NOTHING or what they think is "politically correct, we would still have prayer in our schools.
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by Kimberly
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06/10/07 03:29 PM
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Actually no. The Pentagram is a five pointed star, the Pentacle is the five pointed star withing a circle.
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by Felicia
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06/08/07 01:34 AM
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Didn't the city council know what kind of shop this was when it gave the business license? If you want to talk about zoning and churches and such, please keep my question in mind. If her advice and shop contents are along the same thread...
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by Frederique
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06/08/07 12:11 AM
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If these classes are offered to concenting adults who is to say they shouldn't be allowed the choice. Wicca (though I'm not fond of it) is recognized religion by the US government meaning she has legal right to hold meetings and classes.
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by Boniface
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06/07/07 11:58 PM
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To John and your "WE WIN" comment. Isn't the ending more like all the Christian get taken to heaven or something like that? My question: When do you leave? The peace and quiet would be so nice around here afterwards that.
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by Boniface
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06/07/07 11:52 PM
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The Christian Taliban hard at work again.
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by Pentagram vs Pentacle
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06/07/07 07:20 PM
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John says, "The pentagram is an upside-down pentacle." No. A pentagram is a drawing, a pentacle is an object. Either can be inverted, and even then it is typically used for banishment and the like. To educated wiccans, it is not offensive.
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by George
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06/07/07 06:24 PM
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Bob Consalvo said nearly all the correspondence he had received from residents was against the spiritual counseling classes.
Wouldn't such correspondence on a debated issue be public record and just how many letters/emails were there?
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by George
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06/07/07 05:07 PM
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Hey John---only in fairy tales do christians win.
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by George
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06/07/07 05:06 PM
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Thanks Steve.
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by George
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06/07/07 05:03 PM
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Hey John M.----Michelle knows the truth and is living it. You people are the dark lords of this land.All a satanist is--is a christian with a bad attitude.
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by George
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06/07/07 04:55 PM
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Hey John,I agree with you. That statement is incomplete. King James shortened that little bit of so called scripture because he feared the Scottish Witches.For they prophesied doom over his family.
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by Frank
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06/07/07 01:41 PM
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I think Wiccan is a joke, but someone needs to slap this mayor with some reality soaked wake up socks. This idiot knows the law and is still trying to bully people he disagrees with. Sue him and the city.
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by Jean
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06/07/07 01:04 PM
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Dear Mayor Tipton: "Freedom of religion" does not mean only freedom of YOUR religion. Sincerely, The Constitution.
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by Amy
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06/07/07 12:20 PM
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I find it sad that this mayor, who pledged to support all of the people equally, basically lied when he did so. Is that not grounds to have him removed from office? He is obviously discriminating against this woman.
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by Jon
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06/07/07 12:09 PM
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You Go Teresa, you have as much right to offer counseling as any "mainstream" church, If the locals don't like it, they don't have to frequent your shop.
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by Andrew
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06/07/07 11:07 AM
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"...who said nearly all the correspondence he had received from residents was against the spiritual counseling classes."
Oh. So it's every other citizen's duty to say what's allowable under freedom of religion? I'm laughing over here...
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by Frank
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06/07/07 11:00 AM
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The party proposes to open a business and sell her services based on inter alia that she speaks to dead people and they to her.
Seems reasonable that a government might say "No." Like fortune telling it is a fraud and the public should be protected
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by Aaron
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06/07/07 10:35 AM
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Once again a case of government trying to make themselves all powerful. WAKE UP USA. Before all freedom is taken away from you.
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by Patrick
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06/07/07 10:16 AM
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Mr. Tipton is the type of Christian that makes me irate. As a Catholic from the midwest I humbly ask that people of faith, any faith, not be judged by the weakest link in the chains. One God, many Gods, no god, as long as you aren't hurting anyone.
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by Joseph
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06/07/07 10:15 AM
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Ignorance is the root of biggetry. Biggetry in the hearts of those that are suppose to be leading is unacceptable. The voting public should show Tipton that his kind of igroance will no longer be tolerated.
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by Randall
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06/07/07 08:29 AM
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Perhaps Mr. Tipton should be reminded that should be reminded that Jesse Helms amendment to the constitution was shot down in Congress in 1985, giving all pagans protection under the 1st Amendment. Wicca is a legally recognized religion in the US.
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by Kimberly
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06/07/07 07:46 AM
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To Anne, Alfred and Jack S.
Nicely put, all of you. Obviously from hearts so strong in your own faiths, you have no need to deny others.
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by John
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06/07/07 07:37 AM
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I'm hearing a lot of "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" from Tipton. Keep the old testament on the shelf where it belongs.
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by Harriet
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06/07/07 06:56 AM
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Watch out Christians - if they discriminate against Wiccans, you are next! Freedom of Religion means Freedom for ALL Religions, not just what some one deems appropriate.
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by Cody
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06/07/07 03:56 AM
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I am an atheist and a member of the ACLU. While I think you Christians and you Wiccans are all just fooling yourselves, I also think governments usually dictate the zones where a church can be present, and have certain rules for that. Constiution=yes
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by Calvin
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06/07/07 03:09 AM
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To each their own - a motto that many would do well to keep closer to their hearts than this perpetual sense of spiritual insecurity that pervades these modern institutions of religious currency. Beliefs are better held than inflicted.
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by djse
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06/07/07 02:50 AM
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"They God for JESUS!" gave me the serious giggles. I have no idea what you meant, but thanks for that.
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