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Housing market will come back
Based on economic trends, an expert predicts short-term pain will lead to long-term gain.
By James Thorner, Times Staff Writer
Published June 15, 2007
He's down on the mat, he's bloody, the fans are booing. But can the Tampa Bay area housing market rise from the arena as the Comeback Kid? You can bet the house on it, said Lawrence Yun, senior economist at the National Association of Realtors. Yun was appointed last month as the top economic spokesman for the Washington-based Realtors group. He succeeded economist David Lereah, discredited after maintaining rosy outlooks amid an increasingly troubled housing market and promoting his 2005 book, Are You Missing The Real Estate Boom - Why Home Values and Other Real Estate Investments Will Climb Through the End of the Decade. In a slide show Thursday to the Greater Tampa Association of Realtors, Yun delivered a message of short-term pain leading to long-term gain. "Five years from now you will be very happy you're in this business and located in Tampa," Yun said over a brown-bag lunch to about 75 real estate agents. In Yun's view, rising incomes and declining home prices ought to have stimulated sales this year were it not for housing bubble scares in the media. In one worst-case scenario, an economist suggested the gap between incomes and home prices would depress housing values 40 percent. Yun scoffed at the idea: The real measure of affordability, he said citing a formula, is mortgage obligation relative to income. He clicked a slide showing Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater hovering at the national average. Much of California isn't so lucky, nor is high-priced Miami and Naples. "It's very, very manageable. Nothing alarming in this region," Yun said. Yun based his housing projections on a list of economic trends: speculators leaving the market, strong job creation, baby boomers buying second homes and reform - a slow process now under way - of Florida's property tax and insurance systems. On that last item, Yun predicted a "sonic boom," should the state Legislature succeed in bringing insurance premiums back to earth. Coming off the boom that ended in late 2005, the local housing market's biggest problem is a record-high inventory of homes for sale. Listings hold about 40, 000 houses and condos, quadruple the number of two years ago. Ever optimistic, Yun suggested a way out of the thicket: Thousands of homes will peel off into the rental market, while others drop off the charts as owners wait out the slump. "In a job-growth area, people can hold onto the house without being desperate," he said. If membership rolls are any indication, real estate agents also hope to weather rough times. The Tampa Association of Realtors reported membership ticking up a bit to 9, 200. Carlos Fuentes, the association's elected president, urged member's to spread the gospel according to Yun. "You need to know the facts, " Fuentes said. "You need to know how to present them as well." James Thorner can be reached at thorner@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3313.
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by George
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06/21/07 11:38 PM
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We're not coming!! Our grown children and grandchildren need our money. 940k median price Westchester,NY. What real estate collapse. Everybody in New York hates Florida because they can't afford it. We're not coming!!!!!
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by Gregg
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06/20/07 08:22 AM
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The main thing that irks me is the prices people are asking. Most sellers in the TB area must believe it's 2005 and the housing boom is still in full swing. In many cases, asking prices are HIGHER than in 2005. Go figure...
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by Cathy
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06/19/07 01:14 PM
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Narrow Destiny-
Earning 20k less a year here, working to pay home owners insurance, taxes. extra now going to upgrades for hurricane season!
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by Kathy
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06/19/07 12:18 PM
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I know history repeats itself-We all know that!! What goes up must come down and vice versa. I don't believe we will see a total recovery for several years to come. Taxes and insurance are huge obsticales in this market & will continue to be for some
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by An Appraiser
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06/18/07 10:08 AM
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As an appraiser I thought Lereah was full of it and not surprised he got fired but its bard to believe that Lereah was fired for selling the same rosiness Yun is trying to sell to his employers and public. I laugh at "1000's of homes will be rentals"
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by Dave
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06/15/07 08:28 PM
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This guy is crazy. As a former realtor, until they fix the tax problem and make it fair across the board like in other states there will be no buyers. No babyboomers from the north are going to buy houses let alone people that live here.
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by Josju Jones
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06/15/07 06:39 PM
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When the good days return, you will see the prices of those waterfront condos skyrocket again, and the insurance risk will be astronomical, and then you will wonder why the rates on your modest home are so high - its because you'll be paying for them
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by Joshu Jones
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06/15/07 06:32 PM
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Yes, the carpetbaggers will return and build out every remaining inch of this formerly beautiful state and the beaches will be fouled with red tide and no one will want to visit any more, and no tourist industry equals higher taxes for us all.
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by Joshu Jones
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06/15/07 06:28 PM
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Yes, with the Republicans supporting unlimited growth with their tax breaks, the northerners will come flocking back some day, and in order to pay for their schools and roads, your taxes will have to be raised because now we have a "fair" tax system.
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by Bill
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06/15/07 06:17 PM
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I think it is a mistake to project a countinous inflow of new home buyers. The overcrowding is diminishing the quality of life. In addition, other areas of the South are looking better and better. Finally, real estate agents have zero credibility.
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by Rose
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06/15/07 05:06 PM
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Clean the texas republicans out of our state and let us get back to having a surplus. I'm tired of them stripping our corporate assets and selling us off like they own us. Gee, they said Lotto and privatize wd. be sooo good. Duh
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by Gus
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06/15/07 04:28 PM
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This guy should be fired. He should be preparing the audience for survival in what will continue to be a very tough environment.
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by Roger
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06/15/07 04:21 PM
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i think he is trying to re-arrange the the deck chairs on the Titanic.
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by Bob
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06/15/07 03:57 PM
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I've got a 3/2/2 1400sf house with fireplace,a caged pool,spa,pavers sprink.system,landscaped nice and plan on selling it for $330,000. in five years. The market better improve or my investment is down the drain. I'm leaving FL as soon as it sells.
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by Chris
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06/15/07 03:32 PM
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PJ - Fed hikes of short term interest rates have nothing to do with long term (mortgage) rates. Read up on it. Fed went up a ton but rates have hovered around 6%. Only idiots with ARM's will feel it.
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by Gregg
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06/15/07 03:22 PM
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Lereah predicted the housing market hit the "bottomò01D on 5/26/06, 9/26/06, 10/25/06, 12/28/06, 1/25/07, 2/7/07 and 2/15/07. Yun said the same thing on 12/21/06, 2/15/07, 5/25/07 and 6/1/07.
At what point do we stop believing what the NAR says?
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by RealtyReality
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06/15/07 02:36 PM
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Why do rental property owners think anyone should care about them overpaying and buying in an area without growing incomes to support rental increases. Sell property at a price an owner can be cash flow positive or shut up and pray for capital gain
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by Bill
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06/15/07 02:35 PM
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I think an apt title for this person would be Senior Economics Cheerleader. Think about it, that's as cheerful a picture as he can paint, so the outlook is seriously bleak folks!
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by Andy
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06/15/07 01:26 PM
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It is simple supply and demand. Once speculated homes are caught up with and demand continues to rise prices will rise. Interset rates are only inversely proportionate for investors not homeowners. Homes sold when interest rates were 15%.
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by CB
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06/15/07 01:21 PM
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Well, I think the Housing marketin Florida will come back when the Taxes and Insurance issues are dealt with, and of course, no hurricanes for 10 years would help.
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by Ken
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06/15/07 01:03 PM
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Here is a guy who works for the industry and is telling us what the industry wants us to hear. Let's hear what a disinterested third party has to say about the market in Tampa. Reality is insurance and taxes will continue to devastate the market.
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by Ed
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06/15/07 12:21 PM
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What's the grand revelation here? We are seeing a very normal, yet painfully predictable cycle. And Lawrence Yun says the market will improve? Duh, of course it will. The cycle up may not be as dramatic as the decline, but it's a no-brainer.
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by PJ
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06/15/07 12:15 PM
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This guy is clueless. Price and interest rate are inversely proportional and as interest rates rise to control inflation price will continue to drop.
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by GRIMREAPER
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06/15/07 11:46 AM
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Greg says .....
"Right on JT. County employees have been getting 5-7% raises, while the rest of us in private industry get 0-3%, while tax and insurance costs skyrocket." And we average 85% of your pay .... try again ....
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by Jennifer
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06/15/07 11:36 AM
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Uptick in the realtor rolls - ha!. The bottom line is out there, no sales = no $. Give me a break, it's all outrageous membership dues paying Yun and all the other mandatory membership organizations salaries. Of course they're optimist, like Nero.
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by Carole
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06/15/07 11:25 AM
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So the job growth will allow landlords to hold down 2 jobs to pay the mortgages on properties they can't rent or sell. Interesting ...
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by Jack
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06/15/07 10:56 AM
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Same old story with this association...this market has a long way to go especially in light of 1 out of 5 foreclosures nationwide is occuring in Florida, which will continue to dump houses on the market. Realtors should be looking for jobs...
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by Jim
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06/15/07 10:50 AM
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Yun is a shill for the Realtors just like his mentor David Lereah, not an independent economist. Did his measure of home affordability 'mortgage obligation vs. income'include a fully amortizing loan, property taxes or insurance?
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by jason
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06/15/07 10:50 AM
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Baby boomers and everyone else are fleeing florida. Northeastern retirees are moving to other states.This guy is an idiot!!
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by Lawrence
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06/15/07 10:39 AM
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The National Association of Realtors has been screaming "NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY" for years. NO CREDIBILITY!. Follow their advice at your own peril, and possibly to your own ruin! Goldman Sachs real estate analysts say the bottom is NOT here yet.
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by Sandy
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06/15/07 10:23 AM
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Maybe your right,but sometimes hearing it going to get better helps. It's the light at the end of the tunnel. Yes take it with a grain of salt but it will give people hope.
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by Dee
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06/15/07 10:14 AM
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What is this guy on????
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by DM
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06/15/07 10:07 AM
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Hope he is wrong and all the yankee boomers do not show up in Florida.We only have so much resources to expend and it should be on permanent residents and non-tourism businesses so the economy will be stronger and create better jobs than cleanr/waitr
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by Mac
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06/15/07 09:57 AM
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The state legislature can do nothing about property insurance rates. A couple of years without damaging hurricanes would help lower rates by increasing rate competion between insurance companies looking to make some money. (Some more Money!)
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by Jim
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06/15/07 09:54 AM
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In the 80's my mortgage payment PI was $800 per month and the ins. and taxes were $100 per month. Now my mortgage PI is $800 per month and my ins. and taxes are $700. Something wrong with this picture.
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