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Special report: The homeless struggle
St. Petersburg to crack down on panhandlers
The police chief says charities and newspaper hawkers, too, must heed rules along streets.
By LEONORA LaPETER ANTON
Published June 15, 2007
ST. PETERSBURG - Police Chief Chuck Harmon told City Council members Thursday he will begin consistently enforcing a law that bars panhandling in city streets. He acknowledged that his officers also would crack down on anyone who steps into the roadway to get money - including newspaper hawkers and charitable organizations. In addition, council members will consider at a future meeting the possible creation of a downtown zone in which all panhandling would be illegal. There is also talk of taking Orlando's approach of establishing panhandling zones, limited areas in which the practice would be legal. "We've got to do something about it," said City Council member Jeff Danner. "It's a big problem, and business owners want some relief." Just about every council member agreed that something needs to be done about panhandling, but there was much disagreement on how far the city should go. Mayor Rick Baker's administration suggested the council pass a law preventing anyone from soliciting funds from a passing motorist in the street every day but Sunday, for public safety reasons. This happens to be the day that independent contractors sell the St. Petersburg Times from city medians and sidewalks. But City Attorney John Wolfe said the day was chosen because there are fewer cars on the road, making it less of a public safety risk. "To me that doesn't make a whole lot of sense," said council member Earnest Williams, an insurance company owner. "It's all right to do it on Sunday, but no other day? To me, that's hokey." The council decided not to consider the idea. Harmon, the police chief, noted that an existing state law bans anyone from standing in the road to solicit a ride, employment or business from a driver. (Standing on medians or sidewalks is not prohibited.) A police officer issued a traffic citation based on that law to a homeless man for panhandling in the roadway recently. It was only after a television news reporter asked Harmon if the same law would affect Times hawkers that the chief said the law must apply to anyone who conducts business in the roadway. Alison Steele, an attorney for the Times, said the independent distributors who sell the newspaper on street corners and medians are well aware of the law and try to stay off the street. "From the Times perspective, I don't anticipate any significant impact on Sunday newspaper sales because distributors have been complying with state law to my knowledge and not walking on the street to sell papers," Steele said. "I'm sure there are isolated exceptions because you can't watch everyone, but this is notice that they need to strictly comply." The law would appear to affect charitable organizations seeking funds, including the Muscular Dystrophy Association's boot drive with firefighters. A drive this past spring at three St. Petersburg intersections produced $27,000. But Sherry Yagovane, regional coordinator for the Muscular Dystrophy Association, said a new state law goes into effect July 1 that allows the firefighters to collect money in the roadway. Gov. Charlie Crist signed the bill May 22. "We've battled ordinances across the state, quite honestly," Yagovane said. "You know it has a huge impact on our fundraising. The firefighters are our No. 1 sponsor. It would have a major impact on our fundraising dollars if the firefighters were not allowed to go out on the street." The Rev. Bruce Wright, an advocate for the homeless, said any law restricting panhandling violates free speech. He said he just might find a way to challenge it - by simply violating it himself. "They're setting themselves up for a massive civil liberties challenge, " he said.
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by Bill Westlan
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06/28/07 04:40 PM
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Former homeless, still stuggling until I can find part-time job to help with bills, I am disgusted to see how much attention homeless are getting. They are the same one's over & over again. The one's that don't want any work or responsibility only $.
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by Steve B.
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06/28/07 04:34 PM
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Kelley: there is no reason for a single male or female to "starve" in Pinellas County. There are food kitchens and pantries all over. Surely, the homeless are capable of carrying 2 cans of food: soups, spaghetti daily! Or two packaged sandwiches.
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by Gretta Lee
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06/27/07 06:07 PM
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Those that need help getting over a temporary housing/financial situation are the one's suffering --silently---- until they can wiggle out of the mess. But the ones that we see panhandling....that, my dearies, is NOT a temporary situation!
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by kelley
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06/24/07 09:20 PM
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i feel that these ordinances are completely bogus.... you can't just tell people to stop doing the one thing that allows them to eat at night... pan handling being allowed in only certain areas and times sounds ridiculous and very hard to maintain
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by StarGal
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06/17/07 04:12 PM
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OK. This month my bills will be a little higher due to an extra Dr's visit. So, having said that, I'll need to get some extra cash. Well....with the panhandling zone, I found my answer. Come join me, won't you?? Oh, park your car a few blocks away.
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by Burke
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06/17/07 04:09 PM
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I had to resort to taking a bus after leg surgery and I gotta tell ya...I'm sick and tired of being approached by panhandlers that stare disgustingly after you say you don't have any money to give. Next time, I'll call the cops. Will it help?
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by Kirby J
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06/17/07 04:06 PM
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OMG, when is this going to stop? The homeless that manage to have money everyday without working are all too pleased to see us come into these forums and discuss this. They laugh at us as if WE are the idiots. THE WORKING IDIOTS! Let's run them out!!
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by Joe
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06/16/07 12:48 AM
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Alison Steele is indeed full of it. I have almost run over Times hawkers on two occasions. They walked from their stash on the center median to cars in traffic, crossing through the turn lane during a green arrow. I see them do it often on Sundays.
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by Marty S.
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06/15/07 06:23 PM
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"Establishing panhandling zones, limited area where the practice would be legal." In other words limited areas where the law can be broken without consequence. Well I guess it works for Child's Park so why not? Why no beggars outside of St. Pete?
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by Margaret Gray
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06/15/07 06:15 PM
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Oh my goodness! I never give to those panhandlers at the intersections on Sunday mornings. I just know they are some sort of cult in their lime green uniforms. I expect to see these sorts in Clearwater but not in my backyard! I just avoid eye contact
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by Mike
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06/15/07 03:22 PM
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You will never "solve" the homeless problem as Barbara contends - there will always be people who are lazy and feel rules don't apply to them. You can discourage homelessness, but you will never solve it. If you can beg for change, you can get a job.
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by Ray
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06/15/07 02:57 PM
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Those Sunday paper sellers are more of a problem than the panhandlers. Walking in and out of traffic, I'm surprised no one has been run over!
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06/15/07 02:47 PM
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I needed help so I stopped by a church to tell them my situation. I am not into drugs/alcohol/gambling, etc. So,I got 'help' that I didn't need: food, clothes. So then the secty of the church called Bruce Wright, he acted like he couln't help.
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by TOM
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06/15/07 01:22 PM
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Panhandling is a money making business and like all money making businesses should be regulated, licensed and policed for the public's protection.
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by Pat
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06/15/07 12:50 PM
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Allison Steele is nuts...those Sunday Times jerks are ALL OVER the street around Tyrone Mall. Oh, wait...she's not nuts, she's an attorney. B.S. is her nature.
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by jason
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06/15/07 12:49 PM
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these filthy violent crack head beggars are destroying society and progressive development in St. Pete. Send them to Soviet style labor camps
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by William H.
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06/15/07 12:47 PM
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Would this enforcement also include people selling newspapers. I will say many of these folks are probably homeless and would have no income if this enforcement occurs. I have seen many near collisions with motorists while pushing papers.
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by Dan
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06/15/07 12:43 PM
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Rev. Wright is a media whore. As long as his name is in the paper he's happy. Someone should take a look at the teenage runaways he's "helping" - plenty of news to print there.
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by Linda
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06/15/07 12:39 PM
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On 34th St and 22nd & 38th Ave they travel in packs; taking turns in the roads, while the others sit in the shade of the public bus stops counting their money. I won't wait for the bus with them in it. Money is for booze and cig., nothing else.
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by Barbara
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06/15/07 10:42 AM
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Take care of the homeless problems in St. Pete and you'll take care of 80% of the panhandling.
No panhandle free zones. It doesn't take care of the problem.
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by Nee
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06/15/07 10:27 AM
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Either everyone stays (St pete times included) or EVERYONE GOES! (St pete times included)
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by Harry D.
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06/15/07 09:43 AM
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Oh great, we saw what the police did about the homeless problem. They cut their tents up. So now are they going to smash the money cans and burn the signs. Strange I see no panhandlers in the Lealman area. What about the prostitution problem ?
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by Chuckles
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06/15/07 09:40 AM
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Oh my good heavens, don't take away the firemen! Anything but the firemen!
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by Charlie
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06/15/07 09:38 AM
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Bruce Wright has been a menace in St. Pete for over a decade with his get-nowhere advocacy approach. I suggest all the homeless and panhandlers be moved to New Port Richey. Residents there wouldn't even notice.
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by christina
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06/15/07 09:36 AM
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finaly .an end to begging as a business,now maybe they will get real jobs.has anyone seen south park about the beggars ,do noy give them change,let them change,they make our thriving comuinty look so shabby,is that what we are ? not me.i want better.
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by Jason
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06/15/07 09:25 AM
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Just at Tangelos yesterday. Some dude in a motorized wheelchair with legs thicker than mine and a stomach 5 times as big as mine. Hit everyone up at our table of 4 for money. It's annoying. I work hard for my cash. Lazy people will always be lazy.
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by chuck
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06/15/07 09:20 AM
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my wife was involved in a wreck on 38th ave north and US 19. all 3 cars landed in the medium where a homeless man is standing every morning. good thing he slept in that day
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by Phil
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06/15/07 09:02 AM
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Hmmmm... Maybe a points system like in the movie Death Race 3000?
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by matt
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06/15/07 08:50 AM
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so let me get this straight, "chief chuck" is going to tell the times no more papers on the streets of st. pete,yeah right. lets see how much money this campaign (chief vs. times)is going to cost the tax payers. if you dont want it, dont buy it.
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by Bob
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06/15/07 08:14 AM
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Hey not fair! I make a good living asking for spare change. It's tax free and I get to get drunk each night. I'll have you know I take a bath each night in the fountains in the city just wish they would leave us some soap
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by ddd
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06/15/07 08:14 AM
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So who will arrest the firemen when they do their fill the boot begs for Jerry's kids on 4th ST? LET ME GUESS - NO ONE!! Stop it all ALL THE TIME
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by Dudley D. R.
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06/15/07 07:35 AM
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I agree with Steve. Keep everyone off the road for safetys sake.
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by Vincent
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06/15/07 07:12 AM
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Something must be done. There are days when 34th st and 22nd north have beggers on each corner. Try getting off of I275 at 22nd N and not get asked for money. Dirty unwashed drunks are all they are. Rev Wright makes his living off of them, he knows
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by yvonne
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06/15/07 06:18 AM
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Port Richey has a tremendous problem with panhandling, amd unidentified charities... they create a very dangerous situation especially Ridge and US 19....they leave the median time and again and weave dangerously through moving traffic.
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by julie
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06/15/07 05:27 AM
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Great News. Get the beggers off the streets and tell them to get a job like the rest of us.
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