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Quints custody battle questions vegan lifestyle
A Tampa father challenges a way of living without animal products, including meat, eggs, dairy – and leather
By EMILY NIPPS
Published June 25, 2007
TAMPA - Ten years ago, Gayle and Jeff Nelson-Folkersen were overjoyed with the birth of their healthy quintuplets, thought to be the first born in the Tampa Bay area. TV cameras and well-wishers with donations all wanted to share in the proud parents' exciting journey.
But as the five babies grew up, the couple grew apart.
Now the quints are in the middle of an unusual custody battle in which the father claims the mother has "serious psychological control issues" and imposes a strict vegan diet -- no meat, eggs or dairy -- on the children, according to Hillsborough County court files. She even restricts the quints' visits with their paternal grandparents, the divorce petition states, because they have leather furniture.
Jeff, 46, is seeking primary residential custody of all five 10-year-olds. Gayle, 50, says she's more fit for primary custody, having raised the kids as a stay-at-home mom all of their lives.
Neither parent would comment on the case, which is scheduled for a two-day final hearing next month. It is unclear how prominently the children's diet or the control issues their father alleges will be debated in court. The more likely question will be over which parent creates the most stable and healthy environment for the children, not over what they eat.
But the arguments over vegan child-rearing have recently caught national attention in other cases and continue to stir up personal feelings about food, ethics and parenting.
"How you feed yourself is an incredibly personal decision," said Amy Joy Lanou, a vegan nutrition expert who testified in a case last month that found a vegan Atlanta couple guilty of starving their baby to death.
"So naturally, how you feed your children is an incredibly personal decision. There are some really deep-seated issues when it comes to vegan vs. nonvegan eating."
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Gayle Nelson-Folkersen has been defending her children's diet and lifestyle since they were babies. According to a 2003 interview with a vegan Web site, vegfamily.com, titled "Gayle: Vegan Mother of Vegan Quintuplets," it appears that she opened up about the rewards and challenges of raising five vegans. The article never uses her last name, but it includes personal information about her husband, Jeff, their life in Florida and a photo of the quints around age 6.
One of those challenges, the article indicates, was dealing with the Florida Department of Children and Families, "which, when they find out that my children are vegan, decide that we are neglectful parents," Gayle says in the article. She went on to say DCF questioned her once when the quints were 14 months old and again when they were almost 6. A DCF spokesman said the agency cannot comment on whether it investigated a family.
There is no mention of DCF in the divorce case file, and Jeff Nelson-Folkersen does not appear to suggest that the quints are necessarily malnourished or unhealthy.
However, his mention of the strict vegan lifestyle that Gayle Nelson-Folkersen imposes on herself and the children in the divorce filing suggests an obvious disdain for such a practice. It is the only clear complaint in the divorce petition, and his attorney also asked the court to appoint a psychologist because Jeff "is concerned that the children have not been properly nourished and cared for."
Although he wants primary custody, Jeff Nelson-Folkersen's petition suggests that as an alternative, the parents should have equal and rotating residential responsibilities.
Vegan diets, especially for children, are often criticized not just from a nutritional standpoint, but also an ethical or psychological one. Adults often choose veganism because they disagree with the way factory farms use animals to produce eggs and milk, as well as how they are fattened or slaughtered for meat.
Is it okay to teach a child about these practices to ensure they share a parent's views on cheese, ice cream and leather furniture?
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Some might find the choice to raise a child to have these ethical beliefs as no different from raising a child to have certain spiritual beliefs. The fact that such a restricted diet can lack necessary vitamins and nutrients that a growing child needs can complicate the argument.
In the case of the Atlanta vegan parents, who were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter after underfeeding their 6-week-old son with a diet of organic apple juice and soy milk, Lanou's expert testimony helped prove that the parents could have fed the baby breast milk or other healthy vegan alternatives, such as soy baby formula.
In a similar case in 2005, a Miami couple were convicted of child neglect for feeding a diet of wheatgrass, coconut juice and almond milk to a 6-month-old girl who eventually died. But the baby didn't die from being vegan, said Dr. David Cundiff, a medical expert who testified in the trial, and that wasn't a proper vegan diet. The baby also had an infection caused by a rare congenital defect that weakened her immune system, contributing to the death.
Sarah Krieger, spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association of Tampa Bay, said that the ADA approves of a vegan diet for infants and children as long as they also take supplements or eat foods fortified with calcium, vitamins D and B-12, and other nutrients found in animal-based foods.
"People use vegan like it's a four-letter word that's bad," Krieger said. "It definitely is not."
As far as the psychological aspect of vegan child-rearing, that might be hard to argue in court, said Tampa family law lawyer Steve Sessums, who has no connection to the Nelson-Folkersen case.
"My initial reaction is that certain dietary restrictions that people do well with every day is kind of an immaterial fact," Sessums said. "As a practical matter, the court will look at what pattern have the parents established with the children. If the children have done well, the courts are going to be reluctant to change that pattern."
A court-appointed psychologist is evaluating the children to compare the couple's parenting, and he hopes to present his findings next month.
"My guess is if a therapist has been appointed, that tells me they're really trying to sort this out in a way that's not litigious, " Sessums said. "And that's a good thing, because across the board, there's one thing that all child psychologists agree upon: The worst thing that parents can do to their children is fight over them."
Emily Nipps can be reached at nipps@sptimes.com or 813 269-5313.
Fast Facts:
On veganism
- A vegan (pronounced VEE-gun) is someone who avoids using or consuming any products or foods made from an animal. The reasons for going vegan could be nutritional, ethical, environmental or spiritual. A vegan typically shuns meat, eggs and dairy, as well as fur, leather, wool, silk, honey, and cosmetics or chemicals that are tested on animals.
- Certain vitamins and nutrients, such as vitamin B-12 and essential fatty acids, can only be found in animal foods. This is why supplements and fortified foods are crucial to a vegan's daily diet.
- A vegan diet is usually based on vegetables, fruits and grains. Since a lot of familiar American foods contain milk, eggs and cheese, there are a lot of substitute products made from soy, vegetable oil, gluten and rice that can be used in cooking.
- Some people choose even stricter forms and variations of the vegan diet. Raw foodism is a diet that excludes anything cooked higher than 118 degrees, the point at which enzymes begin to break down. Fruitarianism is a diet based on fruits, nuts, seeds and legumes. Sproutarianism is a diet based on bean sprouts, wheat sprouts or broccoli sprouts, supplemented with other raw foods.
[Last modified June 25, 2007, 00:23:38]
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by Kim
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07/05/07 11:05 AM
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Darling Syp...you hunt and fish with your bare hands? Guns, fishing rods, even fishing line couldn't be products of "civilization", now could they? The crops, now, I'll give you. ;) ;)
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by Kim
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07/05/07 10:56 AM
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(cont.) DCFS should be investigating the parents feeding their kids snack cakes and soda.
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by Kim
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07/05/07 10:52 AM
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My vegan 9 month old is in the 95th percentile for both height and weight and has never had so much as a sniffle. I'm appalled to hear about this family's run-ins with DCFS. Responsible vegans go above and beyond to ensure their kids' nutrition.
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by Gina
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07/03/07 06:50 AM
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Actually Soy and Tofu aren't as healthy for you as you think. Do some research.
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by Brenda
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07/03/07 03:22 AM
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I wonder why the vegan lifestyle is being questioned here. It seems pretty obvious to me that it is questionable to feed your child something that is dead. The fact that anyone would *eat* a sentient being who had the right to live baffles me.
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by Sister
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07/01/07 03:28 PM
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IKnow vegans do not like to sit on leather furniture. That should be understood. I am not a vegan but their are times I am a vegetatable eater only.
With all the meat problems (health wise)
I take my hat off to Ms. Nelson. Soy and Tofu great for u.
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by Myriam
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07/01/07 12:32 PM
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The nutrition experts, including the American Dietetic Assoc, agree that "vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, & provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases." I am vegan and healthy, so is my child.
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by Bob
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06/29/07 01:57 PM
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If god didn't want us to eat animals then why did he make them so delicious.
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by FamilyRIghtsAdvocate
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06/28/07 09:08 PM
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The question here is - is the mother a Seventh Day Adventist and do the parents understand when CPS gets invovled in their lives what nightmares they will come through all because to be a vege or not to be a vege that is the question.
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by Mandy
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06/28/07 06:02 PM
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To continue with Nicole's comment: DHA can actually be sourced from algae (the same place fish get this essential fatty acid). There are no essential fatty acids in meat that can't be found from plant sources.
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by Spencer
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06/28/07 05:08 PM
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Dear K: " Are they "smater" than us that we can't feed our young protein?" Are you dumb enough to think that vegans don't get protein? Seriously. Seriously. Come on, you've got to be kidding me. Learn about veganism before embarrassing yourself.
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by April
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06/28/07 02:16 PM
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Sounds like that mom should include more Flax seeds in her diet. Flax seeds contain B vitamins that help control narcissistic tendoncies. (also flax contains Omega 3s, protein, as well as various other netrients most people eat meat for).
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by Anne
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06/28/07 03:37 AM
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This woman is a stay-at-home-mom to quintuplets. Do you think that any of you could handle that! If the childresn's doctor says that they are healthy, what is the problem? She probaby can't stand her in-laws, like most of us. It's a divorce!
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by HitlerNOTVeg
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06/27/07 08:46 PM
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Hitler was not a vegan or vegetarian, he did stop eating meat briefly. He also advocated not smoking and generally healthy habits to keep the Aryan race fit and strong to breed more. Mike (the poster) ought to get his facts straight & turn off the TV
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by Christina
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06/27/07 08:40 PM
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The Standard American Diet is not a whole foods diet and that's why kids as young as 2 years old are getting arteriolosclerosis. Heart disease is the #1 killer in the West.
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by Christina
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06/27/07 08:29 PM
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http://www.foodforlifenow.com/Rogermuscle_op_493x600.jpg
I've seen this guy lift more than 50 lbs. and work his ass off tiling houses, doing yard work, and all sorts of hard labor. He's an ex butcher and a vegan for 11 or 12 years now. Local guy.
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by Christina
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06/27/07 08:27 PM
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Carl Lewis eats a vegan diet and many other athletes and body builders do too. http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/
Do research before, as Steve Martin once sung, "criticize things you don't know about, stick a live chicken in your underwear".
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by Christina
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06/27/07 08:23 PM
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http://www.vegfamily.com/interviews/gayle.htm
The kids are 10 years old now. Their Pediatrician marks them as healthy and growth curve normal (they are premies due to being a multiple birth). The father was fine with it until the custody issue.
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by Nicole
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06/27/07 06:32 PM
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(Cont'd.) Thus, a balanced vegan diet, can be fed to children. Later in life, they can make their own nutritional choices, just as they can their religious and spiritual choices. I'm vegan, but I have no problem with nonvegans or their sofas.
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by Nicole
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06/27/07 06:29 PM
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Proper vegan diets do not require supplementation. B12 is needed only in microgram quantities and is found in nutritional yeast, common in vegan products. Omega-3 fats from plants (one source: walnuts) are readily converted to essential EPA/DHA.
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by Lola
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06/27/07 04:54 PM
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Since when can't parents impose diet choices on kids? If this woman wanted her kids to eat kosher for religious reasons, presumably you wouldn't be railing against that "imposition." Parents decide what their kids should or shouldn't eat all the time
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by Alyssa
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06/27/07 01:19 PM
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I'm not against vegans or whatever. That's their personal choice, and kudos if they can find a balanced diet for such a lifestyle. Just don't impose that kind of crap on other people, be they your own kids or someone buying burgers at the A&P
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by AngryGoat
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06/27/07 12:18 PM
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Lauren: I have. I'm glad you think we are supposed to reject history and our past and replace reality with altruisim. However, I prefer to stare at my teeth, my body and life, and allow those things to be the barometer of health. More Goat Please!
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by Syp
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06/27/07 11:27 AM
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A vegan diet can't be done w/o other people(Sup.,Soy prod.,out of season items),e.g. it's not self sufficient. I as a omnivore can by myself fish,hunt and grow crops to fill all my needs. Civilization allows vegans to exist, what's natural about that
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by Sarah
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06/27/07 11:26 AM
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I'm a vegan. My son is a vegan, and is healthier than most kids his age. Our diet is well-rounded, contains no meat, eggs, dairy, or processed food- only healthy, natural food. But limiting time with family because of their furniture is too excessive
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by dk
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06/27/07 09:38 AM
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Until I read some of these comments I didn't realize how ignorant the public is about vegan diets. Vegans are commpassionate and loving people who care about all creatures on this earth. Learn about the diet before you criticize it.
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by question
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06/27/07 09:37 AM
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Vegan Martha, why do you need a gastroenterologist? Does it have something to do with your diet? Most gastro conditions are, you know.
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by coco
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06/27/07 12:28 AM
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you can buy b12&fatty acid supplements, as long as the children are healthy, who cares if they are vegans..????
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by Maria
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06/26/07 10:55 PM
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It isn't a vegan diet that is dangerous, it the ignorance of the people who don't understand it.
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by K
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06/26/07 10:49 PM
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Even a Hummingbird, which as an adult eats only nectar from plants, feeds it young protein in the form of bugs. Are they "smater" than us that we can't feed our young protein?
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by Almost Vegan
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06/26/07 08:53 PM
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We have raised our kids as vegetarian since birth. If I ever divorced, I know my husband would bring up my parents (the grandparents) deliberately eating veal and barbequed ribs in front of our kids. It's a divorce, people.
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by Neal
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06/26/07 08:09 PM
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This lady is crazy. I went on a date with a girl last week. She told me she was a vegan after a few drinks. I got up and left; consoled myself with a burger and a milkshake. What a disappointment.
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by Jerrymander
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06/26/07 07:50 PM
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Murdering others simply because they are not human is arrogant. Flesh eaters should be ashamed.
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by Momma
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06/26/07 06:19 PM
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I don't care if the mom is vegan, but she has no right to impose that diet on the kids. Kids need a well-balanced diet. This mother sounds like a kook, complete with causing alienation of affection to punish the grandparents for having leather sofas.
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by Taquoshi
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06/26/07 05:12 PM
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It is one thing to decided to be a vegan, it is another to forbid visiting relatives because they have leather furniture. This sounds more like parential or family alienation tactic rather than an issue over being a vegan. Who's controling who?
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