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'Same old song' as half ends in failure
The Rays have three days to reflect on their brutal slump.
By MARC TOPKIN
Published July 9, 2007
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Starting pitcher Scott Kazmir #19 of the Tampa Bay Devil Rays pitches during the game against the Kansas City Royals at Kaufmann Stadium in Kansas City, Missouri.
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KANSAS CITY, Mo. - It would seem as if the All-Star break is coming at the right time for the Devil Rays, but actually it would have been better two weeks ago. The Rays were blasted again Sunday, losing 12-4 to the Royals, which means Gary Glover's ninth-inning escape act Friday is all that kept them from the ignominy of taking a 14-game losing streak into the three-day break. As it is, they have the worst record in the majors at 34-53, a bullpen in need of a major overhaul and a brutal schedule awaiting, with eight of their first 11 post-break games and 14 overall against the Yankees and 15 against the Red Sox. "We're going to need these three days, " Rays starter Scott Kazmir said. "It's been a tough run for us." Sunday's game was within reach for a while, thanks primarily to an impressive offensive show by Jonny Gomes, until the eighth, when relievers Brian Stokes and Casey Fossum allowed six runs. That was after Jason Hammel relieved Kazmir in the sixth and ended up giving up a bases-loaded double. "It's the same old song and I can't say it any other way, " manager Joe Maddon said. "The bullpen - we have to get better. It wears you down a little bit. Or actually a lot. We have to do something about that. If we don't come back after the break better in the bullpen, we're not. ... I'm not saying it has to be new people, I'm just saying we have to be pitching better. We can't pitch like that and expect to compete on a nightly basis. That's just not going to happen." Relief woes aren't their only problems. Kazmir had another disappointing effort and said he plans to abandon the mechanical adjustments he has tried and, starting Friday, go back to throwing. A year ago Sunday, Kazmir was headed to the All-Star Game with a 10-6 record, 3.27 ERA and a seemingly brilliant future. But he developed shoulder problems shortly afterward, and in 24 starts since then (five last season) he has been considerably less effective, going 5-6 with a 4.14 ERA and developing a reputation for pitching himself out of games. "I'm just going to forget about this first half, " Kazmir said. "It's been very disappointing. For all the stuff I felt like I had, I felt like I was just thinking out there too much. My approach for the second half is that I'm just going to go out there and do what I've done in the past, not worry about ... mechanics and whatnot because that type of stuff you just can't think about during the game." Kazmir lasted only two batters into the sixth Sunday (after 105 pitches), marking the 13th time this season he exceeded 100 and worked less than seven innings. "Kaz struggled again command-wise, " Maddon said. Gomes' huge day - two doubles and his seventh homer in 24 games since returning from Triple A - came with a message. His playing time is likely to be reduced considerably when B.J. Upton comes off the disabled list and takes over in centerfield, likely Thursday, with Delmon Young back to right, so he was making the most of what he had. "Jonny knows what's going on, Jonny knows what's happening and Jonny wants to play, " Maddon said. "I really respect how he's going about things." Marc Topkin can be reached at topkin@sptimes.com View his blog at blogs.tampabay.com/rays.
[Last modified July 9, 2007, 00:56:28]
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by the trop
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07/11/07 12:39 PM
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you cant give CC any crap for baserunning mistakes. hes too fast to control himself. and all those waiting for football season, the BUCS are just as bad as the Rays. they have a 4 man rotation at QB. gomes will help save this team this year. play him
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by pete
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07/10/07 09:24 AM
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aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh shucks
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by Mike
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07/09/07 10:18 PM
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Dru, even if Maddon were a physic, it wouldn't help. I wish Maddon would play more NL style ball with this team. If I see C.C. make another bone-headed running mistake, I trade him for a #3 starter. Left fielders, $4M... Pitchers, priceless!!!
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by J
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07/09/07 08:32 PM
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Trade Pena, Wigginton and Norton now while you can get some pitching for them. Whatever genious decided to expose Hamilton after all the investment put into him needs to be fired. They needed the 40 man roster spot for whom? Greg Norton? Dukes? Joke!
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by Dana
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07/09/07 07:56 PM
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"Maddon did admit today that the bullpen is terrible."
Yeah, but he also said it doesn't necessarily have to be new people out there, just pitch better.
What, transpose those pitchers with HOF'rs from the past?
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by Lee
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07/09/07 06:38 PM
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I went to a game earlier this year...free tickets...I will probably not go back. It was VERY obvious that the Rays were not even in the same league as the San Diego Padres.
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by Dallas
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07/09/07 05:15 PM
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When are you people going to realize that the Rays are just a farm team? 10 more years maybe? Call me a fair weather fan if you want, but at the end of every Ray's season it is raining. I will take the Yankees or Brighthouse field games over that.
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by Joel
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07/09/07 04:41 PM
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Joe Maddon is hurting this team in more ways then he realizes. If management doen't have the guts to fire him,How about Joe resigning for the good of the team. How about it Joe, take one for the team!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Steve
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07/09/07 03:53 PM
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Ever since Kaz was moved to the 1st base side of the rubber,his command,although never great,has gotten worse.His BBs has risen over 1 per 9IP since moving.He needs to pitch at the spot he feels most comfortable,and where he's been his whole life.
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by mike
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07/09/07 02:51 PM
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Here's idea, at home, when it's time to go to the bull pen, pick a seat location and give that person the ball for an inning. Can't be worse than 4 walks in a row. And the payroll stays at nothing!
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by annoyed
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07/09/07 02:35 PM
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Stupid comments about nicknames, as if that's a major cause for anything. Play a sport, for %#@%$ sake. They have the bats and now have decent young starters. The bullpen is a joke, Fossum should be golfing. Now the starters are trying too hard..
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by Bill
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07/09/07 02:35 PM
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Tampa Bay Rays Grades:
Offensive Hitters B
Defensive Team B-
Starting Pitchers C
Bullpen F
Manager Joe Maddeon said, "the bullpen - we have to get better". What? This is an emergency! Get mad! Fight & play hard to win.
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by Roger
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07/09/07 01:40 PM
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If Jonny wants to play, then play him, Joe! It's not like the other giys are hitting .370 with 20 homers right now! No one's job should be safe here Joe, including yours! Make changes now and please option Brian Smokes to AAA! He's lost all confi
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by Edgar
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07/09/07 01:38 PM
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Solution:Upton at CF,Gomes at DH,Wiggy at 2nd,promote OF Justin Ruggiano and release Dustan Mohr. Promote Jeff Ridgeway, Seth McClung,& Niemann to Tampa Bay. Promote Evan Longoria,Wade Davis and Dale Thayer to AAA. Let go Camp,Foss,Stokes,& Glover.
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by Sandy
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07/09/07 01:35 PM
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Joe Maddon contiues to be "Maddon-ing". He plays only by the Book and leaves nothing to instinct. How many losses can we attribute to the pulling of effective starters when they reach 100 pitches and then losing at the hands of the bullpen?
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by Dru
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07/09/07 01:30 PM
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Mike,what games have you been watching?Jackson strikes out the side and gets benched before next inning,he benches his hot players for rest,the list can go on forever.Maddon is a moron who should be fired.This team has talent,just no coach,no leader
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by Tom
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07/09/07 01:03 PM
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Kaz is going to start throwing again? That's all that he does. Scott - its time to learn how to pitch. You have Cy Young talent - start throwing strikes.
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by Jack
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07/09/07 12:57 PM
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Rays' management needs to loosen purse strings and go after proven relievers rather than sticking with last year's crew. I know Maddon is supposed to be working with the young arms, but there seems to be a disconnect. Is it Hickey or lack of talent.
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by Chris
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07/09/07 12:56 PM
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T, too late- nobody goes to the games as it is. The D Rays are a sad excuse for a franchise.
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by Jeremy
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07/09/07 12:42 PM
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THANK GOD FOR FOOTBALL SEASON! WHOOHOO! and if "they" pull Gomes, they deserve to be tied up to the backstop and beaned in the face by every season ticket holder they've got, and considering how few there are that might not be fair punishment!
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by Terry
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07/09/07 12:27 PM
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T's comments are hillarious. Look around Mr. T, the fans stopped going to Devil Ray games a long long time ago.
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by Ed
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07/09/07 12:03 PM
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Maddon did admit today that the bullpen is terrible. Mike is right, ya can't coach talent that you don't have available. Bad ballplayers will always be bad, no matter how much coaching they get. Talent wins. The bullpen has none.
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by Luu
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07/09/07 11:44 AM
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Hey maybe the rays could turn it around after the break. when does football start again??
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by T
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07/09/07 11:14 AM
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I think it is time to start boycotting games or do something like the Pirates fans did. Stop going to games until they start spending money on winners. It is always wait until the future gets here, well its getting old. I'm wasting $ going to games
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by Paul
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07/09/07 11:04 AM
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Steve, Kazmir had major control issues before he moved to the left. He could move as far right as Rush Limbaugh and he'd probably still have control problems. Lots of it's in his head I suspect.
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by Bill
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07/09/07 09:53 AM
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Carol, you obviously have never played organized sports. Guys give each other nicknames all the time. It has nothing to do with being manly. It's a camaraderie thing and it brings the team together.
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by Sean
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07/09/07 09:15 AM
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Sit Gomes?? WHY?!?!? He's consistently raising his average. I thought Upton was a 2B anyway? I know his errors are up there, but I'd think with the crappy pen we have you'd want as many bats in the lineup as possible. Sit Norton for crying out loud!
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by Jim
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07/09/07 09:03 AM
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Rays owmership is getting what it deserves with the lowest payroll in baseball.....& one of the most profitable bottom lines. Would a new approach from a different pitching coach help? Maybe a manager change. Too many good young bats to quit !!!
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by Mary
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07/09/07 08:56 AM
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I can't stand Maddon's nicknames ("Camper?") and poor IQ on when to pinch hit and how to set a batting lineup, ect. But what about the owners? Don't they have a fiduciary duty to "Tampa Bay" to keep its name from being constantly linked to "Lowly"?
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by Carol
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07/09/07 08:23 AM
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Call me old-fashioned, but men shouldn't be calling other men by nicknames such as "Wiggy." When I watch the Rays and the male announcer says that, I gotta' cringe. Time to man up. It sounds silly and wimpy.
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by the trop
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07/09/07 08:10 AM
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If they sit gomes again I might stop going to games. He has done everything they asked of him and the only guy I can see playing his butt off everyday. Hickey sucks, Maddon is a wuss, afraid to yell at his guys. The Players dont like him, nor do I!!!
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by Mike
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07/09/07 08:03 AM
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There's nothing wrong with the coaching that winning won't fix. The team above the Rays in the standings has maybe the best pitching coach of this generation, and they are exactly 4 games ahead in the standings. Can't coach what you don't have...
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by Marc
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07/09/07 07:50 AM
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Mohr's a bum..this is the best they could bring up?! Fossum's an overpaid buffoon that can't even get lefthanders out.Witasick is a sick joke. Maddon is clueless. The only other place to see this may bums together in Tampa is a homeless shelter.
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by Jim
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07/09/07 07:42 AM
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I agree with Tony here. Maddon acts too much like a buddy to the players. He has little nicknames for most of them, Kaz, Sonny, Wiggy. He does not have their respect, therefore losing seems to be OK with them. No pride at all! Tie daily pay to wins.
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by Bill
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07/09/07 06:22 AM
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There should be no controversy here. Gomes has earned the right (again) to be the team's full time DH. Against Lefties. Against righties. Greg Norton is a bench player, Wiggy can be 2nd baseman. Cantu can spot Wiggy. Mohr can go. End of problem.
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