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Travel ignores budget crunch
Florida lawmakers praise their out-of-state conferences, but other officials must cut trips.
By ALEX LEARY
Published July 9, 2007
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Who's traveling
Local lawmakers attending national conferences in either Philadelphia or Boston:
Rep. Tom Anderson, R-Dunedin
Rep. Bill Heller, D-St. Petersburg
Rep. Rick Kriseman, D-St. Petersburg
Rep. John Legg, R-Port Richey
Rep. Janet Long, D-Seminole
Rep. Seth McKeel, R-Lakeland
Rep. Ron Reagan, R-Bradenton
Rep. Betty Reed, D-Tampa
Rep. Will Weatherford, R-Wesley Chapel
Sen. Paula Dockery, R-Lakeland
Sen. Dennis Jones, R-Seminole
Sen. Arthenia Joyner, D-Tampa
Sen. Charlie Justice, D-St. Petersburg
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TALLAHASSEE – Nearly 80 of the same lawmakers who are forcing cities and counties to slash their budgets are flying out of state this summer to attend weeklong conferences at a cost to taxpayers of at least $125,000.
The trips to Philadelphia and Boston normally would draw little attention. But officials are ordering state agencies to curtail travel to ease a $1-billion budget shortfall at the same time local governments are trimming billions more under property tax rollbacks.
"They are asking everybody to tighten their belts, but it's pretty obvious they don't take their own advice," said St. Petersburg City Council member Jamie Bennett. "It would make me feel better if we were all sharing pain."
In all, 77 lawmakers and 18 staff members will go to the conferences, with the state paying at least $1,200 for House members and about $1,500 for each senator.
Legislators defend the conferences as a worthwhile expense, providing ideas on emerging trends and laws that have worked, or not worked, in other states.
"It's a unique opportunity to talk to your counterparts across the nation. We don't live in a box," said Sen. Arthenia Joyner, D-Tampa, who will attend the National Conference of State Legislatures, held Aug. 5 to 9 in Boston.
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The National Conference of State Legislatures is packed with events and seminars on everything from the upswing in violent crime to climate change and improving analytical skills. One seminar is titled, "No Cup of Coffee -- the Line Between Legislators and Lobbyists."
There are a few social diversions, too, such as a tour of Fenway Park, home of the Red Sox, and a Boston Pops concert.
The other conference is July 25 to 29 in Philadelphia and hosted by the American Legislative Exchange Council.
The ALEC agenda is generally more politically conservative, dealing with fiscal policy and school choice. The final day includes a prayer breakfast, golf tournament and tips on "grass roots fundraising."
Both conferences typically draw Florida lobbyists, who covet access to lawmakers. In the past, lobbyists could pay for meals, drinks and other expenses. Florida's gift ban law shut down that practice last year, causing a dropoff in attendance at the ALEC conference in San Francisco.
But that has not stopped an annual dinner hosted by a prominent lawmaker, Sen. Jim King.
The Jacksonville Republican has agreed to pick up the tab for lawmakers and their spouses. King "is enabling us to continue the tradition," lobbyist Barry Horenbein recently wrote in an invitation letter to Sen. Evelyn Lynn, R-Ormond Beach.
Horenbein, whose clients include towing services and the Seminole Tribe of Florida, is handling the arrangements for King, even securing $210-a-night rates at the prestigious Rittenhouse Hotel.
Opportunities to share
Lawmakers have gone to the conferences for years and those who attend say they are far from junkets.
Rep. John Legg, R-Port Richey, said he got an idea for a bill to provide corporate scholarships to foster children. It passed the House this year, but not the Senate.
Headed to Boston, Legg said he wants to learn more about universal health care now in practice in Massachusetts. "Florida doesn't know it all," he said. "It's a great place to learn from other states."
Legg initially planned to fund part of the trip from an account filled with unspent campaign funds -- an option available to anyone who attends the conferences. In a subsequent interview, Legg said he would fund the entire trip from that account.
Rep. Will Kendrick, a North Florida Republican, is also going to Boston despite plans to leave the Legislature next year to run for school superintendent in Franklin County.
"Just because I'm a lame duck doesn't mean I intend to sit on a turtle shell," he said when asked about the value of spending state money.
"Without vision and new ideas, our state will become stagnant and we'll have bigger problems than we have now," he said.
Still, some lawmakers are skittish about attending this year because of the budget constraints and the intense focus on city and county government spending habits.
"We see what some of the local governments are doing, and I think we need to set an example at our level," said Sen. Mike Fasano, R-New Port Richey, who passed on a trip this year.
Hypocrisy suspected
Even critics agree conferences are worthwhile. But after enduring the scorn of lawmakers during the past legislative session for "wasteful" or "excessive" spending, some local government officials detect a whiff of hypocrisy.
"If they are going to be criticizing us for doing it, why would they do it themselves?" asked Pinellas County Commissioner Susan Latvala.
Latvala has felt the sting. She helped organize the annual meeting of the Florida Association of Counties in Orlando, which coincidentally began the same day as the special legislative session on property taxes, June 12.
The conference was dotted with speakers and seminars on growth management and even the threat of Africanized bees.
But a planned "death by chocolate" reception sparked ridicule from Tallahassee as another sign of wasteful spending. The event, sponsored by Waste Management, was eventually scaled back and a golf outing was canceled.
Latvala and other county commissioners across the state will travel Friday to Richmond, Va., for the annual meeting of the National Association of Counties.
Dominic Calabro, head of Florida TaxWatch, an independent group that scrutinizes state spending, agreed conferences are beneficial. But not in this climate, he said.
"It may send a message that everyone has to make sacrifices except some in the Florida Legislature. Whenever budget cuts are made, they should be from the top down. But they seldom get done that way."
Times staff writers Steve Bousquet and Jennifer Liberto contributed to this report. Alex Leary can be reached at aleary@sptimes.com.
[Last modified July 9, 2007, 07:10:24]
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by ricahrd
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08/11/07 10:13 AM
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Just another PORK BARREL.
Why are lobbyists paying for dinners, drinks,rooms, etc ?
Do politicians people are stupid, I guess so
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by Jim
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07/09/07 09:00 PM
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Kitty, please watch another episode of Bill Maher and decide on who to vote for. If you can read please note its not all Republicans. Alot of Demorat weenies will be going also. I am glad I voted Rep. after all
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by Paul
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07/09/07 08:38 PM
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The legislators and staffers only need the written materials - take some of the pain that you've been dishing out.
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by lazz
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07/09/07 07:49 PM
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Kitty, you must have missed the quote from Arthenia Joyner, DEMOCRAT, from Tampa. Democrats are just as guilty!
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by James
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07/09/07 06:37 PM
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Hey Kitty, you must have been as shocked as I was to learn that voting takes place mostly in churches in Florida? Here'e one Republican who despises all forms of religion and the evil it's brought upon the world. Cults too.
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by BadBob
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07/09/07 03:30 PM
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So, let me see. The Governor and Legislature know that the current year's budget doesn't balance, but they are going to wait until September to do anything about it? Someone needs to show some leadership. Anyone?
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by Kitty
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07/09/07 03:20 PM
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But what else should we expect from a bunch of "do as I say, not as I do" rethuglicans? If anyone here voted republican, you have nobody to thank but yourself for this.
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by Kitty
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07/09/07 03:18 PM
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Isn't the prayer breakfast a violation of the separation of church & state? Should they be using our tax dollars for religious events?
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by Mark
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07/09/07 01:54 PM
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Typical. Unfunded mandates and resolutions impacting everyone but themselves. If Legg just wants to learn more on the universal health care, why didn't he set up a meeting with Romney who signed it into law and has been all over this state. Idiot.
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by Dino
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07/09/07 01:16 PM
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Conferences CAN be great. But in a budget crunch they should be the 1st thing to go. They're not REQUIRED to do your job. If they insist on going then REQUIRE each traveler to publicly publish what they learned and when and how it will be implemented
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by Peg
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07/09/07 12:55 PM
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Conferences can be so helpful and I understand morale is important, but $210 a night? That's obscene considering. No $39.95 a night up there?
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by Lawrence
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07/09/07 12:47 PM
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I wonder if Ms. Joyner could enlighten us on what ideas she expects to pick up regarding property insurance and out of control taxes at the conference in Boston? What a load of crap!
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by Clifford
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07/09/07 12:25 PM
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All of you that have voiced a negative opinion, have you called and left a message for your representative, senators, and county commissioners? Be a part of the solution and not part of the problem. It takes and genuine effort to voice your opinion!
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by James
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07/09/07 10:38 AM
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Making a list and checking it twice. Ho! Ho! Ho! and a bag full of coal.
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by Kay
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07/09/07 09:55 AM
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Gosh, whenever I want to take a class/seminar to improve myself and my job skills, I pay for it from my own pocket.
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by Trish K
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07/09/07 09:17 AM
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Hmm..what a wonderful opportunity for our elected officials.(sarcasm dripping) It's a shame so many other people have lost their jobs to make up other budget shortfalls.
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by Pete
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07/09/07 09:11 AM
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Just think instead of wasting our money they can learn all about what ever they wish on the internet and it costs tax payers nothing. They should either have the folks who lobby pay for the trips or come out of their pockets
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by Karl
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07/09/07 09:07 AM
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That's Nothing.. St. Pete Police sent over 20 staffers (including Secretaries) to the Black on Black Crime Conference in Orlando. Hotel and Pay courtesy of St. Pete Taxpayers...NOW THAT'S HYPOCRISY!!!
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by DAN
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07/09/07 08:36 AM
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Typical politicians. Rep. Legg says he wants to go to Boston to learn more about Massachusetts universal health care. Guess Legg has never heard of the internet.I urge everyone to start keeping track of this nonsense so these clowns can be voted out.
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by Carol
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07/09/07 08:29 AM
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That is so wrong...
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by Gerry
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07/09/07 07:39 AM
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The FL Assoc of Counties President IS Latvala. They charge $45,000 annually for each counties membership. Do the math.
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by Troy
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07/09/07 06:51 AM
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More blatant hypocrisy from the "Do as I say, not as I do" Legislature. They did the same thing when they increased property taxes by $545 million dollars in the state 2008 budget.
But thanks for the great work lowering our insurance rates (NOT).
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