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Don't plan on Plummer, his former coach says
High school coach doesn't believe money or competition will drive 'retired' QB into Bucs camp.
By RICK STROUD
Published July 19, 2007
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[Getty Images (2006)]
Jake Plummer says he's retired, but the Bucs don't have to list him that way.
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TAMPA - Jake Plummer's former high school coach recently approached the former Broncos quarterback about whether he planned to play for the Bucs (or any other team) this season.
"I had one conversation with him in passing," said Steve Vogel, coach of Capital High School in Boise, Idaho.
"He said, 'They don't believe me down there (in Tampa), but I'm done.' "
Just one week before Bucs players report to training camp at Disney's Wide World of Sports Complex, there are no indications that Plummer plans to be among them.
The 32-year-old announced his intentions to retire six days after being traded by Denver to the Bucs on March 2.
It's unknown whether Plummer formally has submitted his retirement papers to the NFL. It's also irrelevant.
Plummer has three years and about $15.9-million remaining on his contract, which was traded to the Bucs in exchange for a fourth-round pick in 2008 (if he returns to football) or a seventh-round pick (if he doesn't).
According to NFL procedures, if a player is under contract at the time of his retirement, it is his club's responsibility to determine his roster status. The club's options include, but are not limited to, the reserve/retired category.
That's what general manager Bruce Allen meant when he recently said that Plummer can't "unilaterally" retire.
"We traded for him with the intent of him playing for the Buccaneers," Allen said. "He knows that, and we've been very clear what we see for him and his future. We'll just have to see if we have a meeting of the minds."
The Bucs are trying to convince Plummer to report to training camp, hoping that his competitive fires might be stoked. They want him to compete with Jeff Garcia, Chris Simms, Bruce Gradkowski and Luke McCown.
If Plummer reports and then decides not to play, the Bucs might agree not to go after his more than $7-million in prorated signing bonus.
But Vogel said Plummer probably doesn't want the uncertainty of his role with a new team.
"The only thing I can think of is maybe Jake just didn't want to be in the grind of having to compete for a job," Vogel said. "He'd want to know that he was going to be the guy."
Plummer has kept an extremely low profile since the trade. He's made some charitable appearances, including one in his native Idaho. Vogel said Plummer is a simple man who would have no trouble walking away from the $5.3-million salary he could earn this season.
"I think most people, myself included, would be happy making $5-million to hold the clipboard," Vogel said. "But money doesn't rule his life, especially after the position he was in making a lot of money.
"He's never led that extravagant lifestyle. Years ago I was with him and he bought a shirt at the secondhand store. He's real practical. He didn't have all the fancy cars and stuff and drives around in a Honda Element. It's real practical and speaks to Jake's sense of values."
It's no secret why Bucs coach Jon Gruden would covet Plummer. Garcia is 37 and the Bucs have used three quarterbacks in each of the past three seasons. Simms is still recovering from surgery to remove his spleen in September. And Gradkowski struggled as a rookie in his 11 starts.
A 10-year veteran, Plummer has started 136 games in stints with Arizona and Denver, passing for 29,253 yards with 161 touchdowns and 161 interceptions. He lost his job to rookie Jay Cutler late last season.
"Jake has always kind of done his own thing," Vogel said. "Retiring didn't surprise me. It wouldn't even surprise me if in a year or so he decides to come back.
"Selfishly, I'd love to see him keep playing. But I know pretty well in my mind that he's done."
[Last modified July 18, 2007, 23:42:15]
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by Trevino-Former Capital Eagle 0
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03/10/08 11:01 PM
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I think plummer would rather concentrate on spending some time with family at least a solid year then if he gets an urge to play and keeps healthy he could come back and always make a big differance! He's a great role model and true competitor.
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by Jim 2
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07/24/07 01:13 AM
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If Cutler succeeds this year its only because Shanahan added a quality back. Elway couldn't do it himself until he got a running back either. I wish Jake the best! I hope he decides to come back.
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by Jim 2
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07/24/07 01:10 AM
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Jake did a good job in Denver, the fans just want miricles. He put up really good numbers and won games until Shanahan traded off all the running backs. Denver didn't add any offensive talent for 2 years, but Jake kept winning games.
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by gtskyrider
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07/22/07 03:44 PM
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Jake Plummer will be playing for the Buccaneers...it is his destiny!
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by Wayne
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07/21/07 08:25 AM
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If Jakey was serious about retiring then why hasn't he formally filed with the NFL-Bucs organization is in the best position as far as owning his rights go. If any other team (Houston?)wants his services they have to deal with Tampa Bay! Win-Win!
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by Andy
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07/20/07 03:43 PM
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Gruden destroyed a championship defense to make the offense we see on the field today. Gaines Adams is the next Eric Curry. We are a 7-9 team.
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by jimmy
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07/20/07 01:20 PM
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jake is my guy, and im not looking forward to this season with out jake on a team and starting. but i wish i the best for him and hope he changes his mind and plays again.
WE MISS YOU JAKE
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by Michael
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07/20/07 07:25 AM
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Noreen you crack me up; and you said it ALL. Let's play football. With Garcia, all Chucky's excuses are gone. So (here's another metaphor), "let the chips fall where they may." LOL
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by Shawn
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07/20/07 06:41 AM
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Jake will be back and get his ring.
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by Buck
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07/19/07 04:03 PM
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They should trade Plummer to the Falcons for at least a #2!!!
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by Dennis
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07/19/07 03:46 PM
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The trade for Plummer is a great move if he reports or not.I'll take 7 mil for a 7th rd pick every day.If he does show up then you have very nice 1-2 qb depth.Gradkowski on the other hand sucks.Missing wideopen recievers for td's by 10 yds everytime.
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by Kurt
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07/19/07 03:25 PM
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I also looked at the stats Chris & Gradkowski's numbers were almost identical to the vaunted Vince Young so why don't you use a little imagination and instead of being a dimwit. The QB was not our problem last year, minus Sims, it was everything else
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by harold
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07/19/07 02:56 PM
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we dont need jake, lets get simms where he needs to be and roll with it! our future is with simms! gruden needs to realize that,but i like the garcia pickup simms needs the competition and garcia can show him how to run the shotgun!
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by Norreen
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07/19/07 01:56 PM
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Plummer is such a big baby. Who is going to stand up for him next, first is mommy, big brother, daddy, now his old football coach. I expect next article will have an interview from his grandma and or his old babysitter.
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by Tim
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07/19/07 01:51 PM
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Curiously, how can the Bucs go after his signing bonus when they haven't paid him a dime? This was a pure vendetta trade by the Broncos, who knew he wouldn't play in Tampa Bay. A shame after he gave them a couple good years before being backstabbed.
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by Irish Mike
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07/19/07 01:38 PM
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Yes Kurt- that might have been a mixed metaphor. As for Plummer, you can bring a horse to water but you can't move mountains.
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by Dru
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07/19/07 01:06 PM
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Plummer would be a great QB for Grudumb- The Most Overrated QB playing for the Most Overrated Coach of all time!
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by Dru
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07/19/07 01:05 PM
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Yeah, I watched their games last year and Gradkowski looked like a stiff.He had to play into grudumb's system.He looked as if he was a dog going on a walk with it's owner on a 1 foot leash.Its not a good walk.
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by Doug
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07/19/07 11:32 AM
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They need a proven QB like Plummer on their roster. Just look at last year. It's not if but when Garcia goes down and then we are back in the same situation as last year. Local media has a short memory. Sims was terrible before he went down.
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by Maggie
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07/19/07 11:26 AM
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Let's get a grip.Even without Plummer, if Gruden does not change his offensive strategy which has proven to be unsucessful; we won't be in any better shape. Garcia is a shotgun quarterback as is Simms. When will the team utlilize players' strengths ?
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by Chris
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07/19/07 11:12 AM
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Gradkowski is the heir apparent to the arena league. Seriously did you watch any of the games last year.
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by Dru
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07/19/07 10:55 AM
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Really, the best Jake can do for this team if he did show up is make a 4-12 team, a 4-12 team. He would be a great scapegoat for Grudumb like Gradkowski was last year.
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by Art
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07/19/07 10:21 AM
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Not a good policy to trade with Division rivals, but with the Falcons/Vick situation, and the starter position up for grabs there, might be enticing enough for Plummer's interest, as long we can get a decent return from it. But, then there's McKay!
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by BN
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07/19/07 10:21 AM
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I agree with Michael and Kurt. By the way Kurt, that old saying would make more sense to me if it read: Too many chiefs and not enough indians. But I get the point...
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by David
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07/19/07 09:32 AM
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I thought slavery had been abolished.
Plummer can't retire? He HAS TO play football for the Bucs? Sounds like slavery to me, regardless how much the Bucs are willing to pay him.
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by Kurt
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07/19/07 09:06 AM
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He won't be missed, although he would make a good backup. I'd still rather see Gradkowski get the reps as he should be the heir apparent. You know the old saying: too many generals and not enough indians. That would be our QB situation if he was here
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by Duane
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07/19/07 07:08 AM
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Jake is by far one of the most overrated QB's in the NFL. If he didn't shine under Shanahan,he won't stand a chance anywhere else.
Dead weight and ridiculous move by Allen and Gruden. "Reaplaced by a rookie" says it all.
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by Jim
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07/19/07 06:49 AM
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Normally, I would say no loss. But we seem to do pretty good with former Arizona players. Lets see, Pittman, Thomas Jones, whats that other guy? oh, Simeon Rice. working on Boston, I like our odds. Let him sit a year and bring him next year as a #1.
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by Michael
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07/19/07 05:53 AM
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Yeah, Jake has a 50% completion ratio. He completes 50% to his team; and 50% to the opponent. I say, who cares?
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by Jim
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07/19/07 01:33 AM
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As a Bucs fan in Az, Jake was totally abused while he was with the Cardinals. Then he had to live in the shadow of Elway where no matter how much hew won he was villified when the Broncos did lose. Jake should be named the Bucs starter right now.
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