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Gruden is just not a one-QB kind of guy
By Gary Shelton
Published July 20, 2007
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Since Daunte Culpepper had only been a free agent for about 48 hours before the Bucs had him in their building, this might not exactly be a "drop by if you get time" sort of get-together.
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At this point, everyone knows that Jon loves Jeff.
Ah, yes, Gruden and Garcia. Now they have found each other, you can hardly find a tree trunk in Tampa Bay that does not have their initials carved into it. Already, they have plans to visit Seattle together in September. Privately, they both hope this will lead to rings.
But, honestly, did you ever believe that Jon Gruden wasn't going to see other people?
Oh, those wacky Bucs. After an offseason when they appeared to be collecting every quarterback who had ever seen the inside of a huddle, the Bucs sneaked another one into town on Thursday.
Well, hello there, Daunte Culpepper.
Try to squeeze into the meeting room if you can.
Yep, the Bucs met with Culpepper, a dalliance that probably strikes you as amusing and intriguing at the same time. Amusing, because not even Deacon Jones had his arms around this many quarterbacks. Intriguing, because around here a lot of people remember seeing Culpepper play when he was Culpepper.
Still, the Bucs collect quarterbacks like satellite radio collects disc jockeys. There is Garcia, who Gruden adores; and Chris Simms, who Gruden hasn't given up on; and Bruce Gradkowski, who Gruden still has hopes for; and Jake Plummer, who Gruden is leaving the light on for; and Luke McCown, who Gruden said he missed desperately most of last season; and a couple of youngsters named Zac Taylor and Bruce Eugene, who Gruden might recognize if they wore name tags. Or not.
Ah, no wonder they need Culpepper.
Otherwise, the eighth-string wouldn't have a quarterback.
Of course, nothing might come out of Thursday's meeting but a chance for Gruden and Culpepper to make fun of Randy Moss; Gruden loves to work out players, remember. If you have a football card with your picture on it, why, Gruden is just dying to update his scouting report on you. Especially if you can play quarterback. Who knows when the Bucs might have four quarterbacks hurt? Who knows when another team might want to trade for three of them?
So maybe this was that. Except when you remember that Culpepper had been a free agent for about 48 hours before the Bucs had him in their building, it strikes you that this was not exactly a "drop by if you get time" sort of get-together.
Maybe this was a chance for the Bucs to stick their thumbs in their ears and waggle them in the general direction of the office of Atlanta general manager Rich McKay. "Hey, Rich," the message was, "have fun with Joey Harrington, won't you?"
Maybe, too, this was to deliver yet another message to the Bucs' stable of quarterbacks. That message: Things aren't too stable in the stable.
What does this mean to Garcia? Nothing, in the short term. Barring injury or a collapse so complete that Garcia forgets which way to face before the snap, it's hard to see anyone else starting against the Seahawks on opening day.
What does it mean to Simms? Plenty, perhaps, and none of it good. There was a reason Gruden named Garcia the starter so quickly, and these days, Simms seems closer to third string than first. Could it be that Gruden is still concerned about Simms' health? Maybe. Could it be that he is open to trading Simms if there is a taker and would install Culpepper as his veteran backup? Maybe.
What does this mean to Plummer? Perhaps it means that the Bucs finally believe he isn't going to show up. Or perhaps they have looked at the films and believe that even if he does, they're going to need more help than Plummer.
What does this mean to Gradkowski? It means the role of third quarterback, which should have been his last year, looks pretty good from here.
What does it mean to McCown? It means he shouldn't buy green bananas.
What does it mean to Taylor and Eugene? It means that if rookies have to buy breakfast for the veterans, they might as well invest in a Bob Evans.
More than anything, it means that Gruden is hedging his bets. It means that perhaps the position isn't as deep, and the competition won't be as fierce as you might have believed. It means that if Ryan Leaf is interested in a comeback, there is still time.
In all seriousness, it's hard to blame Gruden for taking a closer look here. There was a time when Bucs fans would have salivated over the chance to acquire Culpepper.
Remember the 1999 draft? After 10 picks, it looked as if Culpepper might fall all the way to the Bucs. But Minnesota, which had been expected to take a defensive lineman, took the UCF quarterback instead, and the Bucs ended up with Booger McFarland four picks later.
It was hard not to remember that over the next few years as Culpepper grew into a star for the Vikings. He was strong enough to get the ball to Moss, accurate enough to get it to Cris Carter and large enough to be almost sack-proof. "The White Rhino" is what former Buc defensive tackle Warren Sapp called him.
A bad knee and a bad experience in Miami have stripped much of the luster from Culpepper these days. Still, he is only 30. If Gruden is interested in a reclamation project, he could do worse (see: Plummer).
If I'm Gruden, I don't sign Culpepper. Yet.
But just in case the honeymoon ends early, I hang onto his number.
Gary Shelton can be reached at (727) 893-8805.
[Last modified July 20, 2007, 00:39:41]
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by George
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07/24/07 10:33 PM
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Regardless of what you think. Culpepper would be a great veteran to b/up Garcia at Qb's.Then Gradkowski,Simms,McCown,& Taylor would battle for 3rd QB, and 4th for practice squad.If Plummer would report to Bucs. Then the battle would be great.
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by Dru
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07/23/07 02:24 PM
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You Simms fans are insane!Have you watched a game?Simms will never play another game in the NFL.He's terrible.Grudumb is just as bad.How much more losing do we have to watch before we stop making excuses?Bucs 4-12!
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by Derek
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07/23/07 07:56 AM
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You've got to be kidding me. Culpepper only got recognition because Moss was fast enough to either slow down and wait for dum dum's pass to get there or run back to take the pass away from dbs that Moss blew by. What has dum dum done since Moss left?
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by Tony
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07/22/07 11:37 PM
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Stop reading the cynical fishwraps and head to Pewter Report for real journalim. The Bucs have one real starter on the roster and he's 37. We're one injury away from being exactly where we were last year. We need to sign him. Smartest move.
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by Paul
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07/21/07 09:17 PM
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Yup, that's the ticket. Go out and get another broke down 30 QB and see how it works out. If he is not in training camp come Aug. throw his number away because he will not be able to get up to speed if brought after season starts. Face it. Gruden= L
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by Kurt
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07/21/07 11:14 AM
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I don't see this as much different than acquiring the rights to Plummer. They're just trying to avoid the catastrophe which happened last year. I would say they've learned from their mistakes, which is a good thing. Sign the guy; it can't hurt.
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by David
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07/20/07 11:53 PM
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IT'S OBVIOUS THAT SHELTON AND ALL THE OTHER LOCAL YOKELS SPORTS WRITER PRETENDERS WOULD RATHER BASH GRUDEN THAN WRITE OBJECTIVE STORIES. IT'S GETTING OLD GARY.
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by Joe
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07/20/07 07:03 PM
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Yes, absolutely have a look! A good long look if you would please. Even with a bad knee, he is better than Simms, grad. or any other but Garcia. But even Jeff will not be bullet-proof, so having the "White Rhino" would be good insurance. Please look!
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by Sue
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07/20/07 05:39 PM
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Trade Simms to Atlanta and watch him rip us apart. Sweet revenge against a coach who is an idiot. Garcia had what 6 good games in the last 4 years. He will not last and with any luck neither will Gruden.
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by Steve
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07/20/07 03:40 PM
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So, when was competition a bad thing? If nothing else, sign him so the Falcons don't once Vick has to sit out. Not to mention, last year, Gruden was an idiot for not signing any backups. Now he has 23 of them and he's an idiot again? I don't get it.
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by Joe
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07/20/07 03:12 PM
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Why not take him for a minimum. Then get rid of the rookies, Luke,put Plummer on the inactive and go after his money.
So we'd have really Jeff, Chris, Daunte, and Bruce. duante im sure will rehab nicely, so chris/duante 2nd string isn't that bad.
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by Clancy
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07/20/07 11:56 AM
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As a Bucs fan, I would pay another team to take Chris Simms.
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by dave
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07/20/07 11:36 AM
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It's obvious that Allen/Gruden are playing 'Quarterback Stock market'. Either buy low and sell high or drive the cost up for other competitors. Makes sense if it gets us draft picks and doesnt interfere with the primary objective. WINNING
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by Tom
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07/20/07 11:05 AM
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It means that the Bucs do not have a decent QB if Garcia goes down. We have seen all the ones you listed and most objective fans don't have much faith in them.
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by Jason
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07/20/07 10:06 AM
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The plan is to aquire 16 QB's then bring Spurrier in and rotate them 1 game each. Heard Jeff Carlson is trying out today-he had a good preseason game once.
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by Darren
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07/20/07 09:38 AM
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A guy committs to one, yet continues to play around. Then the new one is shocked when he is still looking for a 3rd, 4th,... Come on, Gruden seeks to find the best. How will he know unless he plays the field? More power to him - just keep it safe.
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by Irish Mike
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07/20/07 09:35 AM
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Now if we only had a a couple of people to throw to.
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by John
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07/20/07 08:55 AM
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You're a fucking asshole Gary and always will be. Thank god this front office doesn't think like any of you hacks because they would just stay put and not make any moves. If the Bucs didn't do anything you'd have something to say as well. fuckface
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by Big Mistake
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07/20/07 08:37 AM
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It doesn't make any sense, if the team wanted the bad knee wonder why would they sign Garcia? Gruden constantly brags about his current quarterbacks and is pondering signing another? I think he wants a 11 man team of quarterbacks. It is a stupid idea
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by rik
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07/20/07 04:06 AM
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i remember one year yhe vikings came to town and the bucs line got to D.C. play after play. trouble was , it did'nt matter.one play he made a pass over the middle with a guy HANGING ON HIS ARM.i thought he was on outer space drugs!wish i recorded it.
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by derek
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07/20/07 02:46 AM
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What does it mean to Simms? Plenty, perhaps, and none of it good. There was a reason Gruden named Garcia the starter so quickly, and these days, Simms seems closer to third string than first. I think that sums it up... garcia/culpepper could be good
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