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Other states' tax advice? Good luck
State lawmakers at a national conference get an earful of their peers' property tax struggles.
By ALEX LEARY, Times Staff Writer
Published August 7, 2007
BOSTON - When Florida lawmakers passed a plan to reduce property taxes in June, they gathered under a sign boasting of historic cuts and spent 30 minutes slapping each other's back.
Problem solved, right?
Don't count on it.
"Florida's in for a long, rough ride," said Pennsylvania Rep. David Steil, whose state has grappled with the issue for years.
Referendum after referendum has aimed to cut property taxes. The latest, in 2006, attempted to slash school taxes in favor of a higher income tax. It failed miserably.
"It's a tough sell," Steil said. "People know when one tax goes down, another goes up. And these things are confusing. When people are confused, they vote no."
This week, thousands of lawmakers across the country have gathered in Boston for the National Conference of State Legislatures. Among the dozens of issues on the agenda, property taxes is at the top.
The debate in Florida and the difficult choices it has left lawmakers -- who passed a cap on local governments and set up a Jan. 29 referendum to substantially increase the homestead exemption -- is part of a growing anti-property tax mood across the country.
Pennsylvania may have been dealing with the problem for years, but in many states only now has it reached flash point. New Jersey, Maine, Indiana, Iowa, Texas and Georgia are just some of the states taking on taxes -- with mixed success.
"People are being strangled by property taxes," said Texas state Sen. Dan Patrick, a Houston Republican who was elected last year on a platform to cut in half the state's 10 percent annual cap on assessments for homes.
He would go even further than that: abolishing property taxes by increasing the state sales tax, with an exemption for the poor.
"We're seeing an alarming rate of foreclosures. Part of it is people are getting hit with these taxes," Patrick said.
Texas, like Florida, does not have an income tax to offset lost tax revenue. And instituting one in a Republican-controlled state is practically unfathomable.
In Georgia, House Speaker Glenn Richardson is trying to do what his Florida counterpart, Rep. Marco Rubio of Miami, could not: eliminate property taxes entirely.
To do so, Richardson, who like Rubio is a Republican, wants to remove exemptions for groceries and services, such as dry cleaning. But his proposal has already drawn complaints that it would disproportionately hurt the poor.
"We've got to do something," said state Rep. Penny Houston of Georgia, who supports the idea. "People can't stand property taxes any longer."
Rubio has said he still thinks his "tax swap" is a good idea and could complement the relief already in the works.
The Jan. 29 referendum asks Floridians to increase the $25,000 homestead exemption by up to $195,000. Homeowners would have a one-time choice to go with the higher exemption or keep the Save Our Homes cap of 3 percent on annual assessments. The relative complexity, and the fact that it benefits only homeowners, has many predicting the measure will not get the required 60 percent approval.
The national trend is spurred by several factors, chiefly a housing boom that increased values and a growing reliance on property taxes for school funding.
Between 2000 and 2004, 25 cents of every dollar in state education funding was replaced by property taxes, said Andrew Reschovsky, an economics professor at the University of Wisconsin at Madison who studies tax policy.
Reschovsky offers another reason for the growing outrage. As baby boomers reach retirement age, their incomes level off and every expense takes on greater importance. Older boomers also do not have children in schools, making them less accepting of the expense.
"You'd be hard-pressed to find a state where property taxes aren't on the agenda," Reschovsky said.
At the conference in Boston on Wednesday, Reschovsky will host a forum on property tax along with Steil and Rubio, whose crusade against taxes has earned him a bit of a national reputation.
Florida lawmakers attending the conference are being asked by other states about the struggle to curb taxes.
More than a few states seem to be going the direction Rubio wanted by increasing the sales tax.
New Jersey, which has the highest property tax in the nation -- an average of $6,300 a year -- just passed a plan that will provide annual rebates up to 20 percent for homeowners and renters. The rebates are based on how much a person earns. To pay for the program, everyone will pay an additional penny in sales tax on the dollar.
Politicians in Iowa have also floated plans to increase the sales tax by 1 percent.
"But we're all very reluctant to raise taxes," said state Rep. Art Staed, a Democrat from Cedar Rapids. "It would be a very easy job if we didn't have to vote."
In Maine, attempts to lower income and property taxes ended in impasse this summer.
"Property taxes are extremely difficult," said Steil, the Pennsylvania lawmaker. "You just have to keep working on the problem. There are no easy solutions."
Alex Leary can be reached at leary@sptimes.com or 850-224-7263.
[Last modified August 7, 2007, 00:29:15]
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by Maria
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10/10/07 12:13 PM
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I dont mind paying taxes I mind the grotesque waste of tax money on silly things
Problem is MOST politicians in BOTH parties are incapable of running a lemonade stand.
Reelect ONLY if they truly have earned it when in doubt vote Independent.
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by Chris
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09/08/07 02:07 PM
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Let's just eliminate government altogether. Who needs schools, road work, police, or fire departments!
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by JC
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08/08/07 07:09 AM
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The biggest problem is benefits. Health retirement,sick days etc. It is costing alot of tax dollars. Everyone is expecting government to fund everything. That is why taxes are so high. Why do we allow Teachers,police firemen etc.retire so young?
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by Dr. Axe
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08/08/07 12:25 AM
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Fire every other civil servant. That's what happens in the real world.
Oh yeah, and cut their benefits.
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by brandy
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08/07/07 09:40 PM
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I agree with peter and most of the people who are concerned.
"It's the spending stupid! The only way you will ever reduce property taxes is to cut spending. "
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by el
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08/07/07 08:34 PM
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amen Gravas
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by Ann
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08/07/07 06:56 PM
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The Democrats are blocking substantial property tax reduction. Have any on you heard them talking in session. All they care about is maintaining the outrageous spendings of local government despite their budgets doubling or tripling. Cut cut cut now.
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by John
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08/07/07 06:53 PM
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Remember Florida is not a liberal state like many up north. We support property tax cuts. Best plan is still to replace property taxes for 2.5 cents more per dollar in sales tax. Everyone including tourists, renters, even drug dealers will help pay.
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by B
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08/07/07 04:02 PM
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I agree with Gravas and peter, cut the spending and vote out the incumbents
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by JR
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08/07/07 04:02 PM
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Has any other state removed all property taxes and use a sales tax instead? How has it worked out for them? It'd be nice to let some other state try it and learn from their experience.
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by Lee
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08/07/07 04:00 PM
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go back to 1% of purchase proce with an inflation of not more than 1.25%. That is how California prop. 13 is all about
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by Mr. Ed
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08/07/07 03:42 PM
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There is NO corelation between property values and budget - It is only a computational method. The politicians have taxed us into oblivion. Throw 'em all out!
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by Eric
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08/07/07 03:20 PM
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The real problem is everyone wants services and no one wants to pay for it.If you want no tax,form all volunteer fire, police and schools. Get supplies donated.Otherwise there are always going to be increasing costs involved.That means higher taxes.
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by Ronnie
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08/07/07 02:52 PM
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I have to agree with Gravas, all incumbents have to go and new politicians have to understand they must reduce taxes and homeowners insurance.
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by Daniel
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08/07/07 02:02 PM
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I think that it is time for another "Boston Tea Party"!!!!!
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by Harry
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08/07/07 01:48 PM
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The taxation commission should start from scratch- All the complaints about Sales Taxes being "Regressive" and unfair to the "Poor" are a joke- what kind of tax is "fair", if only landowners have to pay it? Do so-called "Poor" even pay property tax?
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by Verna
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08/07/07 01:40 PM
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We are not confused...we recognize a boondoggle when we see it...the poor and middle class pay, the rich don't.
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by Mike
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08/07/07 12:13 PM
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Of course its always the alledged reckless spending by government to blame. It's just too many people living in overpriced housing financed by our finacial institutions who now don't want to pay any taxes. Roads, schools and services aren't free.
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by JH
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08/07/07 11:28 AM
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Taxes, in general, have increased more than housing, gas, and healtcare combined and are the number reason that people go bankrupt. Think about this when you vote for RINO's or Dems.
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by Joe
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08/07/07 10:26 AM
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The taxes here are still much cheaper than in the NE. I agree with most that spending is the problem. Spending more than one has is going to be the downfall of the US (it already is coming to fruition in the subprime loan market). Be afraid.
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by Raymond
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08/07/07 10:02 AM
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Each time the right talks about cutting taxes, they should have to defend the deteriorating infrastructure in this country. If the bridge in Minnesota wasn't a wakeup call, it should have been.
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by David
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08/07/07 09:59 AM
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The problem is this: people want all the benefits of taxes(good infrastructure, public services and parks), but don't want to pay taxes to get those benefits. Property owners have to realize that if they want something, they have to pay for it.
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by Teresa
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08/07/07 09:56 AM
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What the residents need is portability of taxes. There will be no movement in the real estate market until propert taxes are portable.
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by Tim
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08/07/07 09:50 AM
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Stop spending money. You could triple all taxes and they would spend it. Just start cutting spending.
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by Gary
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08/07/07 09:37 AM
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The value is the value - spending is what's killing us. Even the taxing authorities have a hard time understanding this, let alone try to fix it. Fix: value goes up, millage comes down, and justify the budget to the public (who need to get involved).
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by Bob
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08/07/07 09:14 AM
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School taxes are a big chunk of the property tax. Why should only property owners have to pay the burden of a system that costs a lot for a mediocre end-product.
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by Bob
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08/07/07 09:09 AM
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It is totally unfair to put everything local on the backs of homeowners. A sales tax with no exemptions would be fairer. Yes, it might have a small impact on the "poor" but they already get much more in handouts than what they would pay in.
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by Jim
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08/07/07 09:07 AM
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What is the difference between our tax system and socialism? Where did we develop the attitude that we are entitled to health care, housing, public education,and an income, regardless of our own efforts? You should receive what you earn.
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by Jim
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08/07/07 09:01 AM
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The true problem is more government spending, and tax payers wanting someone else to pay for their lack of involvement. The people of this country have the taxes they deserve. Continue to ignore govt. spending and the state will own your property.
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by Dr. Heromi
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08/07/07 08:54 AM
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Simple fix: go back to a zero base budget and justify each department's spending.
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by Bill
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08/07/07 08:50 AM
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Any tax should be set on the broadest base (no exemptions) and at the lowest rate. When special deals are made for interest groups the tax system becomes unfair, usually for the poorer tax payers and the tax revolts start.
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by peter
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08/07/07 08:41 AM
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It's the spending stupid. The only way you will ever reduce property taxes is to cut spending. Capping spending will only result in more "fees" and other "taxes". The people we vote to run our cities and counties will never reduce their spending.
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by Mark
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08/07/07 08:30 AM
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Whatever Florida decides, DO NOT FOLLOWNEW JERSEY'S TAX PLAN!It's nothing more than a shell game! Even with a 1 cent sales tax increase last year, they're still in debt. Borrowed too much from pension funds since 1994 without paying it back!
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by Gravas
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08/07/07 08:13 AM
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Taxes are not the problem in Florida, they are only the symptom. Reckless spending by government at every level in the State is placing unsustainable burdens on it's citizens. Vote out incumbents until they get the message.
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