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State Farm preps for duel in Tallahassee
A (postponed) bout between Crist and the insurer shapes up.
By TOM ZUCCO, Times Staff Writer
Published August 14, 2007
Property insurance rate hearings in Tallahassee usually have all the drama of a calculus lecture. But one such hearing is shaping up as a Dodge City showdown: Florida Gov. Charlie Crist and Insurance Commissioner Kevin McCarty vs. State Farm Florida, the state's largest private insurance company.
This is about more than rates, industry analysts say. What happens could determine the extent that Florida's largest private insurance companies remain major players in the state.
For the proceeding, which will be part hearing and part investigation, Crist and McCarty want State Farm to turn over hundreds of internal documents detailing how the company does business in Florida.
The two sides were to square off today, but regulators postponed the hearing, likely until next month, saying State Farm needs to hand over more information.
Specifically, regulators want State Farm to explain its decision to drop 50,000 coastal policyholders, propose an auto discount and to withdraw from the condominium business in Florida.
State Farm officials say that the company is doing all it can to comply and that hardball tactics won't achieve what everyone wants: a stable market.
To add to the drama, McCarty has taken the unusual step of issuing subpoenas to State Farm Florida and its 84-year-old parent company, Bloomington, Ill.-based State Farm Mutual.
In the meantime, the insurance crisis boils.
What originally put State Farm in Crist and McCarty's crosshairs is backup coverage, known as reinsurance, that all insurers must buy to protect themselves against heavy losses from severe hurricanes.
State officials insist that laws easing insurers' access to lower-cost, state-backed reinsurance mean the 7 percent rate decrease State Farm promised its policyholders back in March should be closer to 11 or 12 percent.
State Farm counters that with about a million policyholders statewide, and more than 135,000 in the Tampa Bay area, it needs every dollar to guard against future storms. The company also says it, like every other property insurer, has until Sept. 30 to make its final, corrected rate filing.
So why is the state coming after them now?
"It would appear," suggested Gary Landry, vice president of the Florida Insurance Council, an industry lobbying group, "this is just showmanship."
Or an attempt by Florida to do what Mississippi did -- try to pull back the curtain and expose State Farm's inner workings.
After Hurricane Katrina hit the Gulf Coast in 2005, State Farm was confronted in Mississippi with a large number of wind-vs.-water lawsuits. The suits by policyholders argued that State Farm was responsible for paying claims for flood damage while the company argued that its policies covered only wind damage. But many cases in Mississippi settled in the homeowners' favor, and State Farm agreed to re-evaluate about 35,000 Katrina claims.
Homeowners there also accused State Farm of denying claims based on biased damage reports and of offering to settle claims for far below coverage limits, hoping homeowners would capitulate rather than sue.
State Farm denies both practices, but the company announced in February it had enough of the "untenable" legal and political climate and would stop writing policies in Mississippi.
Does State Farm see a similar climate developing in Florida if courts rule against them and regulators start digging through corporate records?
"Can it happen in Florida?" asked State Farm spokesman Chris Neal. "Of course. It happens all the time where a court will reinterpret a law or interpret it differently than we have.
"Every decision we've made is aimed at how we stay in the Florida homeowners market," Neal added. "But as we know, things can change quickly. This is a very volatile market we're in."
The state hearing, Neal said, is just part of doing business. "We're actually looking forward to it."
So is Tampa lawyer William "Chip" Merlin. But not for the same reason.
"Until you require people to turn over internal documents, e-mails and memorandum, you won't know the truth," said Merlin, who represents hundreds of homeowners in Mississippi and Florida.
"But when you start subpoenaing internal documents and calling witnesses to testify under oath, when you go into the little corners of State Farm where decisions are made, the real reasons will come out why expectations to reduce rates are so low."
As the wait for a State Farm hearing continues, other insurers are watching carefully.
"To the extent we've seen what happens in other places, it the hearing could open the door to those things happening here," said Allstate spokesman Adam Shores.
"What affects one company could affect everyone in the industry."
Tom Zucco can be reached at zucco@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8247.
[Last modified August 13, 2007, 23:14:27]
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by James R
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09/14/07 08:06 AM
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I do not live on the coast, I am a good 35mi inland, never had a claim, my insurance has tripled, No discounts for impact windows, reinforced garage door all with Miami Dade specs. Some discount for hip roof design, but can't have both. State Sham In
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by James
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09/14/07 07:49 AM
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The tornado in Xenia Ohio in 1972 makes Hurricane Andrew look like a cake walk! Did State Farm make the State of Ohio, State farm of Ohio? What a scam they are only good mutual neighbors when you pay till it hurts.
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by George
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09/08/07 12:31 PM
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The answer is written in the wind. The building codes MUST be made so that any new or reconstruction meets 200mph winds. The roofs must not blow off,the windows must not break,as for flooding,require national flood insurance.Stop arguing it's moot!
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by Chris
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08/29/07 11:34 AM
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This is crazy. My insurance bill was only 900 in 1994 and in 2007 7,100. NO CLAIMS and over 2 miles from the coast and my home is under 2,000 sq ft. State Farm.
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by shawn
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08/17/07 09:34 AM
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You know people that move to the coast know the riskes of a hurricane hitting them. State Farm is making a buisness dissicion. If you knew that 50 cars hit a house on a bad curve would you move into it? No but these people move to the coast.
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by Paul
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08/16/07 05:58 PM
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Does anyone realize that right now, if the private companies have to pay out over a certain limit the STATE will be paying out the additional claims? The state (taxpayers) are already at risk of paying out to make up for the future losses...
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by Ben
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08/16/07 05:53 PM
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For those of you proposing that the state takes over all home and auto policies, look into what happened when practically all carriers left New Jersey after State regulations were enacted. Needless to say NJ allowed the private carriers back quickly
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by Deanna
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08/16/07 03:47 PM
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Insurance bases whether to write a policy or not on risk. If you have a bad driving record the insurer can choose not to insure your autos. If you live in an area prone to hurricane damage they can choose not to insure your home. It's smart business.
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by Michelle
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08/15/07 10:34 PM
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Why didn't the state take all that extra money it collected from property taxes over the last 5 years and make a natural disaster fund! our needs didn't go up? Where did the extra sales tax and property tax revenue go..We need a state audit
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by John
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08/15/07 08:21 PM
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Have the state issue auto & homeowners policy throughout state through Citizens. Also, have state set regulated rates like utilities. Insur. here is like a monopoly so it should be regulated. We are required to have it and there is no real competit.
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by John
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08/15/07 08:08 PM
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Here's the way to fix this mess:
Let Citizen Ins. write any & all policies including auto policies. If there are more claims than premium, pass surcharge to other line like auto, life, medical. Pass a law combining auto/homeowner as single policy.
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by S.C.Y.
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08/15/07 08:00 PM
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State Farm says they will drop our homeowner's policy because we did not have an auto policy with them. They are letting homeowners with auto stay on.
I have file complaint with the state & Gov Crist
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by Ray
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08/15/07 12:28 PM
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It's easy to bash Insurance Companies trying to keep doing business in Florida but they were there for us in 2004 and 2005 and if we keep bashing them they may be gone when the next big one hits.
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by jon
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08/15/07 09:35 AM
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RE: Rocky...How is this issue ever going to be solved when the insurance corporations prioritize their stockholders way above the needs of their customers? Profit could suffer for customer service in this industry...the market cant regulate its self
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by Jerry
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08/15/07 09:09 AM
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To those complaining about State Farm: Go ahead and kick State Farm out of your state and when the next hurricane hits, maybe FEMA will hand you some bottled water a week later and let you live in a formaldehyde trailer for several years.
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by Mark
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08/15/07 08:53 AM
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It's understandable to be mad when insurance companies don't behave well. But we should be equally mad at the state, which has strangled the business with knee-jerk overregulation. It's a slow spiral into socialized insurance, which we don't want.
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by Michael
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08/15/07 02:52 AM
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If you get dropped by State Farm or just fed up with their rates, check out the Home Insurance Buyers Guide located at:
www.homeinsurancebuyers.org
The guide will be available in a few weeks and will tell you who is writing coverage in your area.
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by JC
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08/14/07 10:32 PM
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Allstate cancelled my policy because I'm on the water...with NO claims! I found insurance but it was twice the price I paid last year. I believe...no homeowners insurance then get out of the state with your other profitable sections.
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by geo
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08/14/07 09:51 PM
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I think realist is on crack 3% complain did he even finish 1st grade math or just that far out of touch what % did their profits go up last year was that only 3% too haha take your homeowner and no more auto in florida state farm
make them an examp
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by Bill
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08/14/07 09:01 PM
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Since Ins. companies are leaving the state, let Citizens spread Floridians risk throughout the state. Right now Ins. Co's are assuming no risk and taking all of the profit. Let citizens really compete against Insurance and give profit in lower prems
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by kaye
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08/14/07 08:52 PM
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The insurance companies did the exact same thing after Hurricane Camille in Gulfport 1969. The state took 5 years in court but won! I guess the insurance companies licked their wounds and came back. If the state does not stand up we are trouble!
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by rocky
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08/14/07 08:10 PM
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When the government gets involved in areas where they have no knowledge, there is trouble. Without interference from the state, markets and insurers will charge the correct rates. Free market is best way to improve rates.
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by Mary
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08/14/07 07:00 PM
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I think if they refuse to sell property insurance in a state than they shouldn't be allowed to sell any insurance there, period.
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by Gale
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08/14/07 06:57 PM
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We were with All State for over 30 years and were dropped this year. The only two insurance companys working this area is Royal Palm and Citizens . There are no other choices as Charlie Crist states. He tells people to compare, compare WHAT?
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by AW
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08/14/07 06:43 PM
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WHAT GREG SAID. Time to self-insure as non-profit under Citizens, including auto. But beef up building codes on the coasts and punish fast/reckless & drunk drivers that cause accidents.
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by Hubert
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08/14/07 06:28 PM
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I think we should allow Citizen to offer car insurance as well. Let's level the playing field further.
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by Jason A.
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08/14/07 04:06 PM
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Send a message to the other H.O.I. by making an example of State Farm. Get them the heck out of Florida and perhaps other insurance companies will lower their rates to stay out of the crossfire!
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by Steve
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08/14/07 03:26 PM
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Those of you complaining about SF and other companies are amazing. Take a look at the homeowner results over the last 20 years and tell me if you would choose to invest your own money in the business. Floridians don't care at all about solvency.
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by GB
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08/14/07 01:49 PM
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I have SF. They raised my H.O.I. 125%,I live in a no evac zone and one of the highest in Pin. Now they want to cancel any policy within 10 miles of the water? Say goodbye to Pinellas S.F, if that happens then they shouldn't be allowed ANY bus. here.
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by Realist
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08/14/07 01:41 PM
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Folks that have State Farm are fortunate to have a Good Company they can depend on. They pay their claims and they paid mine. The 3% that complain, are the same 3% that complain about everything before the storm.
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by GREG
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08/14/07 01:19 PM
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I AGREE, OPEN CITIZENS UP STATEWIDE AND HAVE STATE RUN HOMEOWNERS AND AUTO INSURANCE, TAKE PROFITS OUT OF THE PICTURE AND WATCH THE SAVINGS. FL WILL SOON BE 3RD LARGEST STATE WEVE GOT THE NUMBERS, SO WHY IS THIS IDEA ONLY DISCUSSED ON THESE COMMENTS?
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by John
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08/14/07 12:52 PM
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"And like a bad neighbor, State Farm doesn't care."
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by Ken
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08/14/07 12:37 PM
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Believe it or not, go to the satellite imagery of TS Dean on the Weather Underground site and who has an ad logo in the lower right corner? STATE FARM!!! (www.wunderground.com)
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by Jon
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08/14/07 12:30 PM
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It is not the role of govt to make sure that businesses are operating ethically. Unless the company is doing something illegal, govt should leave them alone. It is the consumers responsibility to know who they are doing biz with.
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by Vera
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08/14/07 12:10 PM
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Thank you for keeping us informed. I think State Farm would like to keep the general public in the dark as much as possible. How their insureds were treated after Katrina is unconscionable. Good Neighbor? Right.
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