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School discipline hits some kids more
Boys are most likely to find themselves in the principal's office. The question is why.
By LETITIA STEIN, Times Staff Writer
Published August 17, 2007
TAMPA -- All children misbehave, but some are more likely to be disciplined than others in Hillsborough schools.
Boys are sent to the principal's office almost twice as often as girls. And minority students are far more likely to receive referrals than their white classmates.
Such discipline trends often fly beneath the radar. Schools report annually on problems that escalate beyond the classroom, from disobedience to drug possession. But unlike academic indicators, student misbehavior doesn't receive much public scrutiny.
The St. Petersburg Times conducted an analysis of all discipline incidents last year in Hillsborough County schools. The review found several disturbing patterns:
- Boys were involved in 65 percent of all disciplinary incidents. There was only one type of violation where girls outpaced boys by a significant margin: dress code.
- Black boys were involved in one in four discipline incidents -- more than anyone else and far more than their percentage in the overall school population. They were frequently cited for vaguely defined transgressions, such as disobedience and inappropriate and disruptive behavior. By contrast, white students, the largest racial group, were cited less often. The handful of categories they dominated generally allow little room for interpretation, such as possession of alcohol, drugs and tobacco, leaving campus without permission, truancy and vandalism.
- School officials are concerned that bullying is being under-reported. Many schools cited zero incidents. Fewer than 300 bullying incidents were recorded last year, most of them by middle schools.
School officials say they are well aware of the issues. They are asking principals to increase their focus on discipline when the new school year starts Monday.
"The climate makes a difference," said Lewis Brinson, Hillsborough's assistant superintendent for administration. "When you stop bullying, when you stop fighting, when you stop students coming to school late, you increase your focus on academics."
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At a summer training session for principals, Brinson asked for a show of hands. How many knew their school grade? How many had begun to review test results to identify students needing extra help?
"You need to do the same thing with these students who are misbehaving," he told them.
But the numbers, compiled by every school, may not tell the full story. Reporting inconsistencies make comparisons difficult. A fight at one school might get written up as inappropriate behavior at another.
Some schools record virtually no discipline problems. Others look like more dangerous places. Parents, teachers and administrators must dig to understand the circumstances at their school.
Bryant Elementary in northwest Hillsborough reported just 31 disciplinary incidents last year. Principal Karen Bass laughs off the notion that her children are angels.
"Children are children, wherever you are," she said. "What we're really trying to do is change behavior."
She doesn't like to use the word "discipline," preferring "classroom management." Her teachers must write up plans on handling it. They include a series of steps, involving parents and guidance counselors, before a referral generally is written.
The student population can make a big difference.
Bryant's students mostly come from well-off families. Bass said she faced more challenges in her previous assignment at a high-poverty, diverse school. The children there struggled with more emotional issues, but she found that clear expectations still were key.
Each school's approach is due to receive scrutiny this year, as principals are urged to make discipline a top priority. To start, administrators analyzed last year's statistics at the summer training session.
"As you look over this data, you begin to see patterns," Brinson warned them. "You begin to see things you don't want to see, but it's a reality."
Debbie Devine can vouch from firsthand experience. She says her son, 13-year-old Nicolas Rivera, has been blamed for trouble he didn't start.
"You have nothing to stand on," she has told him. "You're a boy, that goes against you. You're Hispanic, that's the other thing that goes against you.
"Whether it's your fault or not, you'll get blamed for it."
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Experts caution that the biggest problem with boys may be that they are misunderstood. That may be even more true with minority students.
Boys roughhouse. They learn by doing. By middle school, when discipline incidents soar, many have a child's immaturity but a man's appearance.
"If we don't have the right environment of learning and emotional growth, it's very easy for them to get in trouble," said Mike Trepper, executive director of the Boys Initiative Tampa Bay, a nonprofit that is working closely with the school district.
The stakes are especially high for black boys, who were involved in 27 percent of discipline incidents last year even though they account for just over 10 percent of the population.
Cultural misunderstandings may be a factor. White females make up the majority of Hillsborough's teachers.
"I sometimes think the African-American male has gotten a bad reputation," said Natalie Smith, a seventh-grade teacher at Stewart Middle School near downtown Tampa. She finds that some of the children already are labeled troublemakers by the time they get to her room.
Smith, who is African-American, believes some black boys struggle to make sense of conflicting messages. Those from single-mother homes may be the male head of their household. They make the rules. Then at school, they must follow them.
A disconnect surfaces in the numbers.
Across Hillsborough, black students were cited for "disobedience/insubordination" and "disrespectful" behavior almost twice as often as white students.
The Hillsborough chapter of the NAACP would like to see stronger definitions for such offenses.
"I don't know what you consider as disruptive," said Brenda Jordan, the chapter's education chairperson. "Did the child just talk back, or did the child use profanity with you?"
Brinson, the assistant superintendent concerned about the discipline reports, notes that misbehavior can't always be neatly defined. Yet he worries, too.
"All I know is something's not working," said Brinson, who is a black father with three children in public schools. "We have to find a way to fix it."
The trends are familiar to Sam Wright, director of multicultural affairs at the University of South Florida and an African-American parent. He recalls times when his son, now a high school senior, got in trouble for things that could have been avoided.
Still, he considers the school system one piece in a larger puzzle to solve. He thinks parents should be involved early in the disciplinary process. He wonders if concerned citizens could become advocates for children.
"I can't blame the school system for everything," said Wright, who serves on the district's citizen advisory committee. "Yes, there are some problems. But we're in this together."
Letitia Stein can be reached at lstein@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3400.
FAST FACTS: Top offenses
Hillsborough's most common discipline incidents, by the numbers of students involved. (Figures are from 2006-07 and include repeat offenders.)
- Inappropriate behavior: 42,285
- Tardiness: 35,103
- Disobedience: 22,907
- Disruptive: 19,719
- Skipping class: 11,533
- Disrespectful: 9,100
Source: Hillsborough County School District
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by reader
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08/18/07 10:09 AM
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Has anyone looked at whether there is a relationship between misbehaviors and literacy levels of these boys? Sometimes you choose a different path to be recognized if the academic tract is not a successful one for you!
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by Rex
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08/18/07 07:30 AM
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..........great article. The answers are as simple to see and as difficult to sell as we have seen on the program "Nanny 911". If you bring the incidents for disrespect up the top number 42,285 will go down.
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by Michael
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08/18/07 12:18 AM
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Im a black student at a predominately white school and i have noticed that students are disciplined differently based on race and sex. ive gone to the br w/ a pass and hav been questioned by the same person there and back while white students go by.
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by Judy
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08/17/07 11:18 PM
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The biggest problems in schools is the lack of time parents are spending with their children and the lack of respect the parents have for education and the schools. Also, the kids have a lot of emotional issues that get in the way of learning.
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by Eileen
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08/17/07 09:22 PM
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Wow.Wow.Wow. It's all about respect, period, nothing more, nothing less. If there isn't respect from children in the home first, they will not have respect outside of the home. period!
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by Jake
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08/17/07 08:50 PM
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So, aren't the rules blind to race/ethnicity and so forth? If one child commits more violations then he/she should be disciplined we all have to follow the rules regardless of where we are from and what we look like.
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by just_me
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08/17/07 05:45 PM
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no kidding/ we overheard a conversation between a Assistant Principal and a Mother of a student, after a parent conference at a Middle School. As the Mother walked out of the office she said to her son " come on i don't beliefe a word the B... said"
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by just_,me
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08/17/07 04:45 PM
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to Jon, that is exactly the point, the listed categories are just that, Categories. The actions is written on multiple lines that are not reflected in the categories.
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by v
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08/17/07 03:53 PM
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I'm not sure why I continue to read these comments.. The people our children are taught to respect are so crooked in their thinking it's no wonder we're in trouble. Stop being so opinionated and self righteous. We all have things to get over. Help
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by Lisa
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08/17/07 02:50 PM
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What about the role of the parent(s). How is just the fault of the school system? Children need to learn accountabilty. It shouldn't always be someone elses fault.
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by Mitchell
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08/17/07 02:15 PM
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As a public school assistant principal I see this all the time. To those who believe racism is not alive....think again. This is REAL! Iṭ019s not just about raising kiḍ019s right but teaching adults to leave their bias at home.
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by Jon
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08/17/07 01:09 PM
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You would first have to understand that when referring a student for behavior you: 1) check a box such as the examples above, then you 2) write a description. Is this study only focused on the checked boxes? That would explain the vagueries.
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by Paul
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08/17/07 01:05 PM
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It starts at home. Race has nothing to do with it. Stable homes will produce stable children. The problem today is kids having kids & to many single parent famlies. These "Time Outs" have got to go-a kid needs real discipline like the good old days.
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by Mo
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08/17/07 12:57 PM
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Cont..I'm n contact w/the teachers regularly. Once they realized that I'm not ghetto sitting @home living off state but am a FT wrking mom very involved w/my kids, the "vague" referrels stopped. They can call me anytime & email me at work if need be
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by Mo
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08/17/07 12:54 PM
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Unless u are AA parent u can't say its just bcuz AAs R bad. The afterschool program director @my kids schl sd minorites got more referrels. I spank my kids & there is no dad present but son did get "vague" referrels for being typical boy. but...
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by jack s
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08/17/07 12:15 PM
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Equal standards of school behavior for all students, enforced through disciplinary actions equally applied regardless of gender, skin color or "cultural influences" is the only way to approach this morassic development in our public school systems.
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by rg
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08/17/07 12:14 PM
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What percentage of discipline incidents involved chronic offenders? Chronic offenders will continue to get in trouble unless something changes - their race or gender will not. So you won't see a big shift in demographics until repeat offenders leave.
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by archie
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08/17/07 12:12 PM
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The data were analyzed in reference to gender and race, what about in relation to achievement, disability, family income & stability and presence of a father in the home?
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by Suzie
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08/17/07 11:59 AM
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Please stop editorializing. Not all boys are alike. Boys (and girls) who play rough still need to obey teachers and not hurt other kids. Kids who have authority in the home still need to obey teachers.
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by Holly
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08/17/07 11:21 AM
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I grew up in a house where I saw and heard my father being a vebal and physical bully. And so he passed his bad behavior on to both my brothers. We are a product of our environment. Sad but true!
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by Porter
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08/17/07 11:16 AM
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Quit screaming "racism".I and about everyone I meet,with intelligence,agrees we are tired of hearing "racism,racism,racism". Shut up about it and address you issues.Raise your children to respect others and live being thankful you are here.Or get out
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by Porter
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08/17/07 11:11 AM
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When are we going to realize that when a situation "is what it is" there is no blame in the world to change it. If young African and Mexican boys are causing most of the problems then address them and their methods of rearing their children.
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by Christina
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08/17/07 10:42 AM
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Parents should be responsible for their childrens behavior. My daughter knows how to act and does so appropriatly. She knows the rules because we taught her. Its up to the parents. Put some of the pressure on the parents, see what happens.
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by Mellie
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08/17/07 10:22 AM
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I agree with Jim. Call it what it is: discipline. There is nothing wrong with disciplining children or with using the word. Sounds like the prinicipal is a coward and trying to please everyone.
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by jason
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08/17/07 10:19 AM
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I agree w/Jim at 6:04am. When did discipline become a dirty word? All kids need discipline, some more than others. But recurring extreme discipline problems should be expelled, tough-love style, shape up or you're out.
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by amy
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08/17/07 10:11 AM
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Any who is encouraged by their friends, family, and members of the community to disrespect authority aka "the man" will always be in trouble more than others. Boys may also act out to boost low self image because they think acting out is "manly"
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by joan
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08/17/07 09:57 AM
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if your kid is bad just accept it, don't try to blame it on race or sex. give me a break, kids don't get sent to the office for no reason. maybe they should try punishment at home when there is trouble at school. usually there is no support.
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by tom
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08/17/07 09:45 AM
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In our collective quest for utopia we often seek a downhill path.One goes downhill after reaching the peak or in retreat from the journey to the peak. we all have been in retreat for quite some time.Mankind needs to take the leap over the crevice..
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by tim
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08/17/07 09:33 AM
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If I believe what my son says goes on at High School it is really bad. Apparently the teachers have no control over the black males and they run the classroom.
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by michelle
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08/17/07 09:20 AM
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NOT putting the behavior blame SQUARELY where it belongs, the student, is why good teachers are leaving teaching. Just because their mothers chose not to provide a male role model should not automatically make those boys,"heads of the family."
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by Mother
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08/17/07 09:06 AM
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Poor or rich. Raise your kids.The education system is not responsibile for your child's action.Stop chasing men/women and stay home.DISCIPLINE STARTS AT HOME FOR ALL CHILDREN OF ALL ETHIC/RACIAL BACKGROUNDS. Teach your own kids respect and dignity.
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by Mother
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08/17/07 09:01 AM
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I am a single mother and raised my daughter without her father with discipline and she graduated with honors.Discipline begins at home, not school. Poverty and no father is a poor excuse. The parent is responsible for discipline, not the principal.
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by Scott
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08/17/07 08:45 AM
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These boys are suffering from a disability known in educational circles as L.O.D. This stands for Lack Of Dad. Boys become unruly when they have no one to show them how to be a man.
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by Rob
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08/17/07 08:16 AM
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"All children misbehave"? I suppose all newspaper writers overstate things.
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by Tim
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08/17/07 07:51 AM
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I am assuming that the decision makers will consult with an anthropologist and socilologist to assist in the understanding of societal effects of overpopulation/area and forced group relations.
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