News |
Rays
Fill out this form to email this article to a friend
Columns
Best move might be toughest
Joe Maddon will wisely protect his young pitchers.
By JOHN ROMANO
Published August 20, 2007
|
ADVERTISEMENT
 |
|
[Dirk Shadd | Times]
Tampa Bay Devil Rays pitcher Scott Kazmir smiles while unaware that a teammate stuck a bubble on the top of his hat as his team gets a laugh while in the dug out during the ninth inning against the Toronto Blue Jays at Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg.
|
|
ST. PETERSBURG - Chances are, Scott Kazmir will be angry tonight.
Six shutout innings won't matter because there might not be a seventh. And seven shutout innings wouldn't help because there will not be an eighth. At some point, Kazmir will find out his night has ended sooner than he would prefer.
And, angry or not, it will be the right decision.
Trust me, the circumstances will not matter. It could be a scoreless game in the seventh, and the decision will be sound. He could come out with a high pitch count in the fifth, and it will be the smart thing to do.
It's okay if Kazmir is miffed - that is a competitor's right. And it's fine if Devil Rays fans are annoyed, for that passion is good to see. But getting the 48th win in another forgotten season is not even close to being the most important factor of the evening.
"We could take our chances with high pitch counts now and then pay for it two years from now when it really means something," manager Joe Maddon said. "The easier decision would be to let him go back out and pitch. That is a much easier decision; that appeases everybody. But I refuse to take that easy way out."
Of all the criticisms leveled in this dreary summer march, none has been louder than fans complaining about Maddon's quick hook. He is too protective of Kazmir and James Shields, they say. He is too cognizant of pitch counts, they complain. It happened again Sunday when Maddon pulled Shields after six innings and 103 pitches against the Indians.
But let me ask you this:
Who would be the fool if Kazmir or Shields blew out an elbow on the 115th pitch of a meaningless game in a phony-baloney season?
It happens more often than you realize. Mark Prior won 18 games and threw 211 innings at age 22 in 2003 and has not been the same pitcher since. A decade earlier, Dave Fleming threw 228 innings and won 17 games at age 22, and his big-league career was done by 25. In the 1980s, it was Britt Burns. In the 1970s, it was Mark Fidrych.
In between, you could add Storm Davis, Steve Avery, Jaret Wright, Matt Morris, Wade Miller and dozens of others. The gurneys are filled with promising pitchers who lost their careers after blowing out their arms at a young age.
"Every team would like to have those two guys to build around at the age they are," Maddon said. "Being the steward of those two right now, I take that responsibility very seriously. It's about their future, it's about the guys in the dugout, it's about the people in the front office, it involves everybody's future that we do right by these two young guys."
If you are paying attention, you know the Rays are not treating Kazmir like a baby. For much of the season, he has led the American League in pitches thrown, which is not what you want from a 23-year-old who had a sore shoulder last year.
If you check the list of pitchers with the heaviest workloads this season, they all seem to be from 26 to 30. Kazmir is, by far, the youngest among the top 13.
The Rays have done some research on this and have discovered young pitchers who have a dramatic increase in workload are much more likely to break down in their mid 20s. It could be an elbow, it could be a shoulder. It could also be a disaster.
It is not an exact science, but the Rays are working from a general guide. A pitcher's workload should not increase more than 20 percent from one year to the next. The idea is you are gradually building arm strength until the pitcher is accustomed to throwing in the 200- to 220-inning range every season.
Naturally, there are variations. Kazmir, for example, missed almost two months last season, so his numbers are skewed. He will exceed last year's pitch totals by more than 20 percent, but the plan is to not let it get out of hand.
Some would argue that the Rays are doing a disservice to the pitchers and the team by lowering expectations, and it is a legitimate point. Yes, a pitcher does need to learn how to make it past six or seven innings - but not at the risk of his health. And, yes, a team does need to learn to win more games - but not at the expense of the 2009 roster.
It would be irresponsible of the Rays to take unnecessary risks to win a few more games in a last-place season, when there is potential of ruining their hopes in the seasons beyond.
You want to know why the Rays are in the midst of their 10th losing season? Because they didn't have enough long-range planners 10 years ago. The previous ownership was so intent on driving up attendance, it continually deviated from script.
It signed too many older players. It rushed too many younger players. It was so obsessed with winning 70 games, it never figured out how to win 90.
That's why you shouldn't get too caught up with Kazmir going for his 10th win tonight.
Not when you consider he might be going for 20 in 2009.
John Romano can be reached at romano@sptimes.com or 727 893-8811.
[Last modified August 19, 2007, 23:03:41]
Share your thoughts on this story
Comments on this article
|
by JSP
|
08/21/07 12:23 PM
|
|
Typical not-so-bright fans, "screw the facts, throw the kids out there til their arm falls off when we are 20 plus games out of playoffs". Joe is NOT the one making this decision, and it is the right one!
|
|
by Joe
|
08/20/07 08:12 PM
|
|
Well done, Maddon. I'm watching a pitcher who is motivated to get his 100 pitches in by the 4th inning and take the night off. Great lesson for a young team. FIRE MADDON NOW! ENOUGH LOSING!
|
|
by DannyD.
|
08/20/07 02:24 PM
|
|
Consider this Rays fans:Little Leaguers 12yrs old are limted to 85 pitches sometimes reach 88,yet 23yr Kaz and 25 yr old Shields have been pulled from games w/95 pitch counts,What was the excuse early in the season?Would they get pulled w/a no hitter
|
|
by Felicia
|
08/20/07 12:58 PM
|
|
It's very simple - if you want to protect Kaz & Shields, then get better relievers that win the game! There were so many times these two pitched excellent games only to have the bullpen blow it for them!
|
|
by Gene
|
08/20/07 12:33 PM
|
|
John, you are correct. The legacy of the Bucs is it taught the fans in this area that all you can do is complain! Despite the record, if you don't see the improvement in this club you don't know what your're watching.
|
|
by Jim
|
08/20/07 11:55 AM
|
|
You know and I know that neither Shields nor Kazmir will be pitching for the Rays in their late 20's. The Rays will not pay them what they deserve. They will be Yankees or Red Soxs.
|
|
by Roger
|
08/20/07 11:49 AM
|
|
Mark "The Bird" Fidrych's problems (according to rumor) came about because of an off season scrape where a protective boyfriend/husband nearly tore his arm off. At least that's the rumor from the three million people who were in the bar and saw it.
|
|
by Richard
|
08/20/07 11:41 AM
|
|
Some validity to this, but would be easier to stomach if we had some veterans that can pitch longer into the game. But Maddon is still awful in game management. Had Dukes, Baldelli, & Norton hitting 1,2,4 in the line-up hitting about 200 for too long
|
|
by Don Quixote
|
08/20/07 10:58 AM
|
|
MAD DON has certainly NOT been overly protective of Kaz and Shields. Very few pitchers, and none under 25, have thrown as many PITCHES or as many INNINGS as Kaz and Shields!
|
|
by Joe
|
08/20/07 10:49 AM
|
|
Yet another indictment that Maddon is not commited to winning. Enough is enough. Can Maddon and staff. Replace with a Manager who has a feel for the game, pitching coach that doesn't mess up pitchers mechanics and hitting coach who can the sub .210's
|
|
by RUSERIOUS
|
08/20/07 10:34 AM
|
|
Are you serious? A good coach WINS baseball games. A good coach is not someone who just sits there while the greedy owners neglect to pay a dime. This team will lose another 100 games this year under Maddumb and you people want to resign him?!?!?!!?
|
|
by Jessica
|
08/20/07 10:25 AM
|
|
The only reason why this is an issue is because our relievers are terrible! If we had relievers that could actually finish and win games, we wouldnò019t have to worry about whether or not Maddon is taking out our pitchers too early!!!
|
|
by Roo Boo
|
08/20/07 09:53 AM
|
|
These comments actually amuse me, You guys really think this is Maddons decision? This is upper management all the way Joe errrr John Maddon doesnt make these decisions
|
|
by John
|
08/20/07 09:39 AM
|
|
Joe Maddon takes the easy way out ever time he makes excuses for poor performance on the field. Try motivating the troops rather that caring for their fragile psyche. Joe is a namby-pamby bench coach--not a manager.
|
|
by Tom
|
08/20/07 09:05 AM
|
|
Finally a voice of reason from the media. Contenders are rolling through St. Pete now, Rays will be one of them next year possibly, the year after definitely - but not if Kaz & Shields aren't protected.
|
|
by doug
|
08/20/07 08:19 AM
|
|
I like baseball in Tampa,but Madden has to go and a few more better every day players is what we need. Not so much family days and free parking.
Doug in Tampa
|
|
by Don Quixote
|
08/20/07 07:58 AM
|
|
The Marlins may well have destroyed Dontrelle.
age 22----236 innings pitched---2.63 ERA!!! Age 23---224 innings pitched---3.87 ERA!!! Age 24---180 innings (??)---4.93 ERA!!! The season is gone. Maddon's job is to protect the arms of Kaz and Shields.
|
|
by Kaje
|
08/20/07 07:51 AM
|
|
The only reason this is a Phoney-Baloney season is cause of Maddon and the front office. What we are now supposed to believe next year will be better. How many times do we have to hear that. We will still be a 30 million dollar payroll
|
|
by Don Quixote
|
08/20/07 07:47 AM
|
|
Maddon almost blew out Kaz's arm last year. Starting on June 23, Kaz threw 119 pitches, then 93 pitches and on July 3rd he threw 120 pitches.
At that point he began to have arm problems and was shut down for the season.
Maddon learned a lesson
|
|
by Bill
|
08/20/07 06:07 AM
|
|
John. You're worng, period. Maddon's managing to strict pitch count and "protecting arms for the future" began in April and has been evident all season. So does the quick hook matter now? No. But he's done it all year long. It's wrong and so are you.
|
|
by Richard
|
08/20/07 05:10 AM
|
|
So true! I was living in Detroit when Fidrych pitched for the Tigers.How they abused him in a desperate attempt to win 70 games (74-88) and increase attendance was criminal,only 21 and 250 innings!Protect Kaz & Shields,they're our future!
|
|
by rays fans
|
08/20/07 12:42 AM
|
|
By all accounts the Rays will be a contender in '09. Um. Riiiiiiight. We'll believe it when we see it (which likely won't be 2009).
|