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Board favors plan to up hotel sizes

Pinellas commissioners see giving developers more leeway as a way to boost to tourism.

By MIKE DONILA, Times Staff Writer
Published August 22, 2007


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Pinellas County commissioners are ready to let developers build bigger beachfront hotels, but they want to take one more look at the plan.

A new ordinance, they say, could help tourism by boosting overnight accommodations in a county that's lost roughly 5,000 of its 40,000 rental rooms in four years, many on the beach.

"What we're trying to become is what we were and that's the No. 1 tourist destination on the coast," Commissioner Calvin Harris said.

But the proposal has critics, many of whom turned out for Tuesday's commission meeting to say an increase in hotels will create more traffic, crime and "concrete canyons" that block out beachfront views.

"This is all really about how many rooms you can fit on a narrow piece of property," said St. Pete Beach resident Michael Max, 65. "Give them the density and they will build up to 20 stories."

But despite the protests, six of the seven commissioners approved of the plan, which will let developers build 50 to 150 percent more hotel rooms per acre, depending on the site's size. However, instead of passing the ordinance, the commissioners agreed to send it back to the Pinellas Planning Council for a final September review to make sure it can withstand any potential legal battles.

From there it will go back to the board for two more October public hearings when it is expected to pass.

The only dissenting commissioner, Karen Seel, said she was concerned that property values could increase under the "highest and best use" formula, which sets land value based upon what a piece of property could potentially become - its highest and best use - not what it currently is used for.

The 6-1 vote came after more than two hours of discussion, with 25 or so speakers sharply divided about whether the plan should go forward.

Some residents said the development would hurt the environment, while others argued that small businesses were closing because the tourists were disappearing.

Officials say the ordinance could make beachfront hotel development more appealing to developers. In the past, it has been more lucrative to build condominiums than hotels. For example, on Clearwater Beach, where existing regulations allow developers to build up to 50 hotel rooms or 30 condos per acre, one condo has the same market value as about six hotel rooms.

[Last modified August 22, 2007, 00:18:33]


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by Mary 08/23/07 08:35 PM
Are these people listening to the tax payers of Pinellas County? Hello? Please stop this nonsense. We do not have to pack every square inch of beachfront with hotels and condos. How about a whole bunch of parks? Not like we're hurting for the revenue
by Jocephus 08/22/07 09:42 PM
To all of you people complaining about the loss of "view" due to tall buildings, what have you really lost? The beach has been blocked by 1-story buildings for decades, and you can't see through those either. The extra stories just add shade!
by Gabriel 08/22/07 04:33 PM
Simply Horrifying.
by Lisa 08/22/07 03:39 PM
Clearwater's Hibbard & Horne talk about "quality of life" ad nauseum, but THEIR stupidity dooms US to anything but! Beach redevelopment could not be managed more poorly. More density? Is that a joke? What about parking? BEACHES: SECEDE OR DIE!!
by Judith 08/22/07 03:23 PM
Being in the hotel industry your location would be ideal for more hotels, shops, salons, spas, entertainment The Ma & Pa stores are losing business beacause off no tourism. It has its beneficial appeal.
by Mike 08/22/07 01:31 PM
Quit complaining! You could have bought up the land before the developers and let it sit empty just so people could see the ocean. I guess the developers were just willing to pay more than you.
by Tom 08/22/07 12:21 PM
Seel is up for re-election, otherwise it's another 7-0 unanimous vote. There's only one way to change this folks. Stop electing developer-owned criminals, and vote the current ones out. Mark your calendar for Election Day and call in sick if you must
by Heidi L. 08/22/07 12:14 PM
Projected development must take into consideration natural resources AND natural impacts. Limited water, hurricanes, etc. Every commissioner (and you)should immediately read "Condominium" and "A Flash of Green," both by John D. MacDonald. Both apply!
by John 08/22/07 11:50 AM
While I don't wish harm to anyone affected, I do indeed PRAY every day for a Cat 5 direct hit to our beaches. It's the ONLY thing that will turn back the clock on all these condos & rich A-holes ruining the natives' quality of life. Enough is enough.
by Mark 08/22/07 11:47 AM
The County Commission is making the correct decision on this issue. Over 60% of the existing hotel facilities do not comply with FEMA requirements but all new projects will. Our beaches will end up safer and more hurricane resistant.
by Not soon enough... 08/22/07 11:12 AM
Bears repeating: "From there it will go back to the board for two more October public hearings when it is expected to pass." Folks, this means even with a 100% tunrnout, all against, YOUR Com. has already decided. Thank you Ms. Seel. VOTE!
by Dennis 08/22/07 10:53 AM
Hotels and Condos DO NOT OWN THE BEACH, if you try to use their pool or shower, then yes I suppose they can say something, but they do not own the beach so whoever told you to move Darryl was betting you did not know better.
by Elaine 08/22/07 10:27 AM
We enjoy the luxury of no state income tax and we want our public officials to address the rising cost of property tax, but we don't want to support tourism growth. There is no easy answer that will make everyone happy.
by Reggie 08/22/07 10:10 AM
Wise men know that most politicians have never met a development they did not like. Common sense is missing in this plan. Imagine a chat 5 hurricane hitting the Pinellas beaches. Think about how this impacts our daily quality of life.
by Jason 08/22/07 10:09 AM
Some development is fine. However, do we really want every last inch of land overdeveloped? But since our commission is historically pro-development, say goodbye to the sand and views. It's sad.
by Rob 08/22/07 10:05 AM
Tourism is Pinellas counties number 1 industry. New hotels are crucial to remain competitive in the marketplace. I appauld the comission for moving forward. A few wealthy beach residents should NOT detertime the fate of our economony.
by Bryan 08/22/07 09:57 AM
Why do government officials and developers have to ruin everything?Look at Miami, Ft. Lauderdale or even the condos in Clearwater.Let's do what we're good at, screwing up.More tourism?Where are they going to eat?All the restaurants are now condos.
by liz 08/22/07 09:48 AM
I presume that all these extra rooms and the people who will occupy them will not be using any of our already depleted water supply?
by A 08/22/07 09:44 AM
CRIMINALS is right! You can't even SEE the beach from the road anymore! It's disgusting.
by Jack 08/22/07 09:42 AM
Just sounds to me like we are creating more of a problem when hurricanes hit.I think the developers should have to pay an impact fee to be put into the emergency homeowners insurance fund.And make it a substancial fee.
by Linda 08/22/07 09:37 AM
I'm so sick of this area being ruined by tall hotels/condos/etc so the county can have MONEY. That's the only reason they approve things like this. What about "sense of living"? You make me want to puke
by Jason 08/22/07 09:29 AM
Tom just said it like I would of said it. Criminals...plan all along. It's everywhere in America. Look at Crist, hiring developers for the "Fish and Wildlife" commission. Of course because that is what the developers do best, save land and wildlife.
by Meg 08/22/07 09:28 AM
We need more hotels and less condos. Bring in the tourists not the investors who buy dozens of condos that sit empty. Empty condos do not put money into our economy, tourists do.
by Bland 08/22/07 09:27 AM
We shall continue to screw up Florida and our area. Give it 15 to 20 years and we will be Miami. Just what we need on Gulf Blvd more congestion. What a bunch of power hungry and greedy power players we have running this county. Vote them out....
by chris 08/22/07 09:22 AM
Couldn't agre more with the concrete canyon comment. Clearwater is no longer the beach community I loved. It is full of empty condos and expensive hotels that neither I nor my friend frequent. How sad that I can't enjoy the beach or vistas anymore.
by Richard R. 08/22/07 09:14 AM
Where are you going to put all of the cars? Too much trffic now!
by James 08/22/07 09:06 AM
As voters, it's time to bring in some commissioners who have a long term vision. The lax regard for the land-use which converted these hotels to condos and taxing the ma and pa hotels out of business is why we have the issue. The greed has to stop.
by Paul 08/22/07 08:38 AM
Beach, we have a beach? I always wondered what was behind that concrete wall called condos and hotels. Wow, I'll have to figure out how to get to it, now that i know about the beach we have in Pinellas.
by Donna 08/22/07 08:16 AM
(1) Didn't I just read an article in the paper today asking us to conserve electricity? (2) Aren't we are all on water restriction? (3) Maybe those new units won't need electricity and water?
by Tom 08/22/07 07:28 AM
It was all part of the plan. Convert hotels into speculation priced condos that now sit empty, chase the mom and pops out using highest and best use, and create the shortfall in order to pay back the developers for funding their campaigns. Criminals.
by Jerry 08/22/07 07:00 AM
Whatever happened to "of, by, and for the people". The more the people voice their concerns about development and developers, the more elected officials ambrace them. Are they all bought off? Or is it all about ever more tax money to spend?
by darryl 08/22/07 06:33 AM
property.unless im staying at the hotel.Im thinking to myself you got to be kidding me.a beach is private property.I moved and was very disgusted.welcome to the land of greed and land developers.lets squeeze what remaining beach views that are left.
by CC 08/22/07 06:28 AM
How can you possibly write a story about development on the beach and not discuss how the proposed ordiance will effect the recent citizens' efforts to stagnate development on St. Pete Beach? You only wrote 1/2 the story.
by darryl 08/22/07 06:27 AM
forget it.ocean veiws forget it.I remember recently going to the beach.I wanted to move away from the crowd.I saw a clear area.went to it laid out my towel and sat down.15 mins later a guy behind me gets my attention and tells me im on private....
by darryl 08/22/07 06:23 AM
I remember 30 yrs ago you could drive along gulf blvd.from one end to the next.and see nothing but blue water.and white sand.it didnt matter where you went you had beach access.there were a few small motels.today you cant see anything.beach access?..
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