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Optimism for FAMU law school fades amid problems
Many law students wonder if the school can rally in time to earn full ABA accreditation.
By RON MATUS and SHANNON COLAVECCHIO-VAN SICKLER, Times Staff Writers
Published August 22, 2007
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On the first day of school at Stetson University College of Law, Vilma Martinez studies inside the Law Library in Gulfport. Martinez, a former FAMU law student, transferred to Stetson this year to continue her studies because of the ongoing problems at FAMU.
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[Times photo: Willie J. Allen, Jr.]
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Last summer, Vilma Martinez walked into the Florida A&M University law school with hundreds of other first-year students and began to dream.
It was the first day of orientation, and Martinez was struck by the diversity of faces. Optimism coursed through the new, $30-million building on the edge of downtown Orlando.
She thought: This place will make America better.
"You feel that going in," said Martinez, a Tampa native with Cuban roots. "You become one of the faithful."
But the good vibes didn't last.
Echoing more than a dozen students who talked with the St. Petersburg Times in the past two months, Martinez said she became disillusioned as problems like late financial aid checks and insufficient academic support and career counseling festered. Instead of addressing student and faculty concerns, administrators put up a wall of silence, she said.
Meanwhile, many students wonder whether the law school, established with more the $40-million in taxpayer dollars, can rally in time to win full accreditation from the American Bar Association. Without the ABA's seal of approval, a law degree would mean little and the school's viability would be in question, because students could not take the bar exam.
A few weeks ago, Martinez concluded the uncertainty was too much. Monday, she began classes at Stetson law school in Gulfport near St. Petersburg.
"I'm heartbroken," she said. But staying at FAMU "is like staying in a dysfunctional family. At some point, you have to have tough love and cut your losses."
Accreditation fears
As fall classes resume in Orlando, and as an ABA site visit looms, the future of FAMU's 5-year-old law school has never been more in doubt.
Some of the about 530 students are frustrated at least two are consulting attorneys because of grade disputes and other concerns. Faculty members are growing restless (one resigned last week). And two years after the school's first dean was fired in connection with a ghost-employee scandal, it still lacks a permanent leader.
Meanwhile, ABA officials are scheduled to visit in October to consider FAMU's bid for full accreditation. Enrollment figures for the semester that began Monday are not yet available, FAMU officials said this week. But students like Martinez aren't willing to wait and hope for the best. Some are leaving, and many others have considered it.
"I wanted to stay," said Torrie Orton, who decided to transfer to the University of Missouri. But "I felt like my degree was jeopardized because of the inner workings of Florida A&M."
The state of affairs marks a dramatic reversal from the hopes expressed in 2000, when lawmakers voted to re-establish FAMU's law college.
Their decision was a politically charged attempt to right a past wrong against the state's only historically black public college, which lost its law school in 1968. Soon after, neighboring Florida State University opened its new college of law, heightening FAMU supporters' long-running fears about being shut down or folded into FSU.
After lawmakers voted to re-open the law school, then-Lt. Gov. Frank Brogan invoked the civil rights era: "It's a law school at least, it's a law school at last. Thank God Almighty, it's a law school at last."
Indeed, lawmakers hoped new law schools at FAMU and at primarily Hispanic Florida International University would produce more minority attorneys.
FIU is already fully accredited and on the bar exam early this year had the highest passage rate in the state, 94.4 percent. FAMU, meanwhile, has the lowest bar passage rate, with a little more than half of the students passing. The national pass rate in 2006 for first-time test takers was 79 percent, according to the ABA.
To be fully accredited, a law school must "maintain an educational program that prepares students for admission to the bar," according to ABA standards.
'A critical time'
Neither interim law dean Ruth Witherspoon nor FAMU spokeswoman LaNedra Carroll responded to requests for comment last week. But FAMU officials are clearly counting on the man who's likely to be the new dean, LeRoy Pernell.
"This is such an important appointment at a critical time in our law school's development," FAMU president James Ammons said in a written statement two weeks ago. "This choice represents the desire to skillfully chart a path for our student body and navigate our efforts to seek full accreditation."
Pernell, now law dean at Northern Illinois University, recently accepted FAMU's offer. But his hiring is contingent on approval from the FAMU Board of Trustees, which doesn't meet until Sept. 13. And Pernell isn't expected to start until the end of the year, if not early next year.
Said one FAMU law professor: "January will be too late."
The law school is in its third year of provisional accreditation, and under ABA guidelines FAMU has five years to win full accreditation. Nancy Slonim of the ABA said FAMU's first chance to apply for full accreditation will come at the end of this academic year.
Students and professors say they have seen little evidence that FAMU is seriously addressing ABA concerns, including faculty quality and low bar passage rates. Instead, they say, the college is marred by administrative blunders and faculty infighting. Several professors described fierce battles over tenure and promotion.
One junior faculty member, professor James Smith, resigned last week to take a job as a criminal defense attorney in Tampa.
Smith said he left for "professional, personal and financial reasons." He declined to be more specific.
But students said the departure of a popular, highly regarded professor should send red flags to FAMU administrators and to supporters outside the law school.
Smith is a graduate of Duke law school and left his position as a senior prosecutor with the U.S. Army to join FAMU.
"It's just indicative of the situation at the school," student Robert Grimaldi said in an e-mail. "Faculty members are apparently being treated poorly by the administration. ... I am disappointed he would leave, but I can't blame him either."
Feeling ignored
Turmoil is not what students expected when they enrolled.
Several told the Times they remain grateful that FAMU accepted them when, because of low GPAs or standardized test scores, other law schools would not. Besides being racially diverse -- roughly half the students are black, and 1 in 5 is Hispanic -- FAMU has many older, nontraditional students. Many are married. Some have children. Some commute from Tampa and Lakeland.
"I'm not a student Harvard would have considered for admission, or UF, or FSU," said Martinez, 37, who worked as a paralegal for four years before deciding on a law career. "FAMU gave me an opportunity."
But she and other students said once they arrived, the college offered little academic support. Martinez said she was mailed the name of her academic adviser and given contact information to set up an appointment. But the adviser never responded to an e-mail, she said.
The ABA requires that an accredited college provide "basic student services, including academic advising and counseling, financial aid counseling, and an active career counseling service."
Last spring, a number of students told the Times that Witherspoon never responded to their written complaints about legal writing professor Victoria Dawson, criticizing her teaching style and writing ability.
The caliber of faculty also is a key accreditation factor, according to the ABA.
In June, student Paula Post sent several e-mails to Witherspoon, wanting to know why grades for one of her classes had not been posted, and why her grade in that class was changed from an A- to a B+. Again, she said, Witherspoon did not respond.
This month, Post transferred to Florida Coastal law school in Jacksonville.
She said she wrestled with the decision for a week, at first deciding to stay at FAMU. But when she called a FAMU law staffer to announce what she thought would be welcome news, the staffer's response shocked her.
"Paula, don't," the woman said, according to Post. "Things are getting bad here."
Ron Matus can be reached at (727) 893-8873 or matus@sptimes.com. Shannon Colavecchio-Van Sickler can be reached at svansickler@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3403.
Fast Facts: School time line
- 1949: FAMU begins law program on Tallahassee campus.
- 1968: State closes FAMU law school.
- 2000: Florida Legislature votes to re-establish law school.
- 2002: New law school opens doors in Orlando.
- August 2004: American Bar Association grants provisional accreditation.
- June 2005: Interim FAMU president Castell Bryant puts dean Percy Luney on leave over ghost-employee scandal. James Douglas is appointed interim dean.
- March 2006: Doors open at new $30-million building.
- January 2007: Bryant appoints Ruth Witherspoon as interim dean.
- August 2007: FAMU announces LeRoy Pernell will be new dean, pending approval from trustees in September.
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by Adjoa
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09/07/07 02:20 PM
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I found the story one sided- perhaps because you could not speak with any current administrators. I wonder if you attempted to reach Pernell to ask what he saw as the positives to support his decision to take on the deanship.
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by FAMUAN
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09/03/07 09:33 PM
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During orientation week I seemed to be only one of 20 out of 180 that had signed their MPN's, maybe people just need to get on the ball, personally, as far as Fin Aid goes....
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by bubba
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09/03/07 08:45 PM
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Pt 1...the school will upgrade enrollment standards. Some folks just don't belong at this academic level...no matter how much they want to be a lawyer.
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by Bubba
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09/03/07 08:43 PM
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The school has addressed all of the major problems. Financail aid was awarded early and with only a few exceptions (no different that any other school) students are receiving their refunds. I can only hope, as is usually the case, the school will
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by Paula
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09/02/07 02:56 PM
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That: "absolute immunity is not for the
protection or benefit of a malicious or corrupt judge, but for the benefit of the public..." pierson and judicial immunity. Who are we kidding? The system has failed the average "Joe" miserably.
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by sick of FAMU excuses
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08/27/07 09:31 AM
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Try to see through your veil of pride and you will start to notice the problems with FAMU COL.
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by Joe
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08/26/07 05:22 PM
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To Rod: I have not yet recieved my Financial Aid... doesn't seem like such a great job to me.
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by Rod
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08/26/07 01:13 AM
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I HOPE THE COL GETS SOME PRESS TIME WHEN THE DO THINGS CORRECTLY. THE FINANCIAL AID DEPARTMENT DID AN EXCELLENT JOB THIS YEAR... HATS OFF TO THEM
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by JOSEGRAD 06
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08/25/07 08:45 PM
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On the other hand, there are alot of quality professors at FAMU. Lets focus on the positive and fix what is disfunctional. It's what you do with your bar license that makes a difference. After all, the bar card does not state graduating school.
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by Jose FAM GRAD 06
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08/25/07 08:40 PM
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As a BAR passer, it's the best money I ever spent. A Camry cost more, and I now make more $ than grads from St Pete's STETSON. Famu will fix it's growing pains. Some at FAMU could not get in anywhere else, so why are they so ungrateful?Be THANKFUL!!
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by DanRattler
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08/25/07 07:29 PM
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As a former graduate that is in my career field, FAMU graduates are making lots of money and are doing well. I do however, have friends that graduated from FSU (4), UM (2), and UF (2) that all work at temp agencies... Hmmmm
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by Tom
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08/25/07 04:50 PM
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Yep, the situation sucks. What sucks even more is how fast time flies in between ABA decisions, and it is 5 years to the day, not 5 years and a day from provisional. Most people think what happened at Barry won't happen to them, not so much anymore
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by Studentsmovingon
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08/24/07 02:59 PM
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If you read the COMMENTS posted about the article you will see the quality of students that FAMU produces. That school feeds on drama - keep the secrets of FAMU hidden? What good will that do? At least they tried to shed some truthfuly light.
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by Haven
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08/24/07 01:00 AM
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Perhaps FAMU has such a poor bar passing rate because the student quality is low. If FAMU's law students could not make it at FSU of UF (or even be admitted), then apparently they're not the greatest students, spellers or grammarians.
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by Seriously?
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08/24/07 12:20 AM
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Pt 2: The people going to the press are the equivalent of someone vacationing in Iraq even though there is a war going on. Don't bash and boycott Iraq if you get shot! Can't take the heat? Stop snitchin' & get out of the kitchen.
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by Seriously?
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08/24/07 12:06 AM
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This is for all those who complain to the press AFTER they get admitted and attend FAMU Law. You are retarded. If you would have just plugged "FAMU LAW" into google BEFORE attending, you would have known about the problems. Don't cry "foul" now!
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by A2L
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08/23/07 10:35 PM
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Late financial aid checks? Resolved by hiring a full-time financial aid advisor.. Insufficient academic support? There is plenty of faculty and organizations to assist..Career counseling? Resolved by hiring a full time career development director.
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by A2L
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08/23/07 10:29 PM
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I am sadden to read this article because it only hurts the students that are still in.Family matters should stay within and together we should find a solution for them. I think FAMU is a great institution, which can only get better w/time.
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by FAMU LAW GRAD 06
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08/23/07 10:02 PM
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I graduated from FAMU and passed the bar. Yes, FAMU has to replace some of the faculty, but also some of the student's who can't understand that law school is meant to be challenging and not a baby fed institution. Best JD degree money can buy you..
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by Gee
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08/23/07 05:42 PM
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Those of you who are complaining (parents and students) just might want to change careers! The study of law requires clear and concise writing, and there is very little of that on this blog. What I see here is egregious (and that's a very bad thing).
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by Gee
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08/23/07 05:36 PM
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If the writing here is indicative of the writing done in classes, it's no wonder many of the students are disgruntled. I know this is a blog and typos occur, but the misspellings and grammatical flaws here are just absolutely horrendous.
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by DAVE
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08/23/07 05:04 PM
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Not the only one-Barry held loan money and tried to control who took bar to control the outcome-Dean Hurt-2 DUI's. Hurt did the same thing at Jax Law school. He was at the ABA in accredidation and now gets paid to get law schools approved abussivly
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by 2L
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08/23/07 03:37 PM
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Vilma and Torie should be embarrassed. It is hypocritical to tell a bunch of 1Ls how wonderful FAMU is and then a couple of weeks later, slam the school.Many of Torie's problems were brought on by one person: Torie.The school did nothing wrong to her
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by Caggage
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08/23/07 12:34 PM
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Tell all the disgruncled to HIT THE ROAD JACK
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by FAMU LAW
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08/23/07 12:26 PM
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Get a life and tell the real facts. This are never the same when the father gets kicked out, but you make the best of it and keep moving upward. That is what FAMU is doing. Give them credit for something!
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by 3L
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08/23/07 12:20 PM
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VILMA AND TORIE SHOULD NOT BE EMBARRASSED, FAMU COL OF LAW SHOULD BE. I'M A WITNESS TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S INEPTNESS AND STONEWALLING. I'M SURE THEY'LL BE MORE GOOD PROFESSORS TO LEAVE. MEDIOCRITY AND RETALIATION IS THE ORDER OF THE DAY.
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by 2L
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08/23/07 10:45 AM
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Vilma and Torie should be embarrassed. Vilma just attended the meet and greet this summer and spoke nothing but wonderful words about FAMU COL, and Torie, as 1L rep, would do this considering no one else would have her.I'm glad you two are gone.
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by Ashon
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08/23/07 12:14 AM
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Perfect timing. Publish a negative story as soon as the school gets some permanent, stable leadership to begin the process of addressing the problems. Gotta love the Times.
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by TR
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08/23/07 12:08 AM
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The situation at FAMU Law School is a disgrace to the taxpayers of FL. I can't believe that the University system allowed this to happen -- what a terrible joke on the taxpayers and law students at FAMU law school
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by Raechel
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08/22/07 11:47 PM
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this is in response to the post by "current student". I actually went to FAMU for a visit this summer, and enjoyed the tour, but sensed some underlying issues. By reading your post, I am unsure if it is FAMU that has not prepared you, or your
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by no one you know
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08/22/07 09:05 PM
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Vilma and the others mentioned in this article are to be commended for their candor and their honest portrayal of what THEY experienced. I would say I hope FAMU makes it, but I have not had that kind of hope in a long time... I am glad I graduated.
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by no one you know
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08/22/07 08:43 PM
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First of all, race is not the card to be playing here. FAMU is giving itself a bad name, be it black or white or whatever. The administration has got to go... no if's and's or buts. Dean Witherspoon has the personality of a snail she is just inept.
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by Rod
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08/22/07 08:24 PM
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I hope the Times tracks these individuals and let us know if they make it to the bar, since the only school that would except them in the beginning was FAMU COL. Some of us came by choice, others had plans. shame on you vilma and torrie (1L Rep)
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by FAMU COL 2L
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08/22/07 08:15 PM
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I remember Ms. Martinez and Torrie from orientation and class. The sad fact is, I don't think they ever had intent to stay. They used the law school to transfer since they could not make on their own merrits originally. How SAD
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by Onaneedtoknowbasis
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08/22/07 07:15 PM
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I guess the solution to being put on academic probation is to Bash FAMU! Yeah, that solves the issue of me failing...
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