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Board leans toward slow transition
A gradual move to neighborhood schools would cut into savings.
By THOMAS C. TOBIN, Times Staff Writer
Published August 24, 2007
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Calvin Manning pauses to tell a story about growing up in St. Petersburg while mopping the hallways at Southside Fundamental in St. Petersburg in preparation for the first day of school. Southside Fundamental was to have closed and merged with Thurgood Marshall Fundamental Middle, but those plans have been rescinded.
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[Times photo: Martha Rial]
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[Times photo: Martha Rial]
Seen thru one of the original classroom doors at Southside Fundamental, French teacher Cathy Kelley gets an early start on organizing materials for the upcoming school year. Kelley has taught for 31 years, seven of those years at Southside Fundamental in St Petersburg.
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LARGO -- The Pinellas School Board tentatively decided Thursday that the transition to a system of neighborhood schools should occur gradually and without the mass uprooting of children the district once contemplated. The board agreed that all students currently in a Pinellas public school will be allowed to remain in that school when the district's new student assignment plan launches a year from now. Students who are new to the district and those entering kindergarten, sixth grade and ninth grade in the 2008-09 academic year would be required to follow the rules of the new plan, which will steer most students to a school close to their home. Previously, the district proposed forcing an estimated 6,000 to 7,000 elementary students to leave the schools they got into under the choice plan and move to their new zone or "home" school. Board members ended up agreeing with a group of parent advocates, who pointed out that the district promised families in writing that children could remain in their choice schools until they finished out. "I don't see how we can go back on that commitment," said board member Peggy O'Shea. "I think we have to honor the promises made under choice." The decision, however, erases much of the savings the district had hoped to gain by moving away from the choice plan's onerous busing requirements -- and may even cost taxpayers more. School superintendent Clayton Wilcox said the district would need what amounts to a second bus system to transport the students who would be "grandfathered" into their current schools. Cost of grandfathering The cost: about $5-million a year more than the $47.5-million the district now pays for busing. The extra cost would last for the five years it would take for the grandfathered students to cycle through the system. "I think the price tag is going to change the conversation once again," Wilcox said in an interview after the board's all-day workshop Thursday. "I don't know how you can pay for that." He referred to the grim recitation of fiscal woes facing the district that were outlined earlier in the workshop. District budget officials said state revenue declines could force Pinellas to cut as much as $18-million from its 2007-08 budget, not including more cuts that might be needed later if Florida voters approve a large property tax exemption in a January referendum. Machon Kennedy, leader of a parent group that pushed to grandfather all students into their current schools, was skeptical of the cost estimates. She questioned whether they accounted for the fact that some families won't want to stay in their choice school and that the district's obligation to grandfather students will decline each year. "I'm cautiously optimistic," she said of the board's decision, which won't be final until November. "Nothing's done until it's done." Key elements Board members and Wilcox also agreed on several other key elements of the plan. A summary: - Wilcox rescinded his proposal to close Southside Fundamental Middle School in St. Petersburg and merge it with Thurgood Marshall Fundamental Middle. He said he considered comments from faculty at both schools and concluded that bringing them together would result in a "cultural clash" over the newly merged school's focus.
- The board agreed that all existing fundamental schools should continue to draw all their students from throughout the county. It also heard Wilcox say he never intended to have three new fundamental elementary schools up and running by 2008-09. Board members, nervous that an expansion of fundamentals was proceeding too quickly, agreed it should occur gradually as demand warrants.
- Board members agreed that the district's existing magnet elementary schools -- Bay Point, Melrose, Perkins and Ridgecrest -- should continue to draw students from throughout the county. Another school, Douglas L. Jamerson Elementary, would be turned into a full-fledged magnet, also drawing students countywide.
The new plan calls for all five magnet schools to draw some students countywide and some from their area of the county, as most of them do now. Still undecided is what mix of countywide vs. "area" students each school would have, and how that "area" would be defined. Impact on racial lines Talk of the magnet schools steered board members and Wilcox into some of the most substantive discussions yet on how the new plan might affect the racial makeup at some schools. "You're going to have more segregated schools," said chairwoman Mary Brown, the board's only black member. She cited projections indicating several schools would be predominantly black under the new plan. "I want to see more diversity in the schools," said Brown, who pushed for more magnet schools and for having those magnets draw students exclusively from throughout the county. But Wilcox and other administrators argued that those ideas would reduce the number of seats available for black students who would want to attend a neighborhood school. Wilcox cited a parent survey showing a majority of black parents wanted a chance at a school close to home. Board member Jane Gallucci said the district's plans to create diversity should involve the entire county and go beyond largely black areas of St. Petersburg. She cited large Hispanic populations at some mid and north county schools. Hispanic students are the fastest-growing ethnic group in Pinellas schools, up 17 percent since 2003. White enrollment is down 14 percent and black enrollment down 11 percent. The board has scheduled another all-day workshop next Thursday in what could be its final meeting before taking the plan to the public. A series of "community input" meetings begins Sept. 18 at Palm Harbor University High School. Thomas C. Tobin can be reached at tobin@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8923.
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by michael
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02/09/08 07:45 PM
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this is a stupid idea and they should have used the grandfathering. :P
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by jeanne
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09/09/07 01:42 PM
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--Not all Middle Schools provide before and after care program. R'club /YMCA are at elementary schools. Some local community centers have programs but are very limited in space.Again everyone needs to get their facts straight. Support Dr. Wilcox!
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by Eileen
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09/03/07 11:11 PM
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My son is in Kindergarten. We live about a 1/2 mile from his "choice" elementary school. Without grandfathering, he'd have to move to a school over two miles away, and guess what, he'd be bused. I'd keep walking him to school if he's grandfathered...
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by marie
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08/28/07 09:38 PM
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If I screw up my banking, everyone else isnt going to pay for my errors. The school board, county, and state can clean up their own mess with out destroying everyones lives in the process. enough is enough. my 10K in prop taxes should give me my say
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by J.B.
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08/28/07 08:34 PM
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If you had kids that would be moved to a different school next year because of no grandfathering I think you would be singing a different tune before saying you support wilcox(by the way my children will STILL BE TAKEN A BUS). Where are the savings?
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by j w
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08/27/07 12:52 PM
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so parents would rather their kids ride a bus accross county than have clean classrooms and teacher aids? THAT is what the choice will be if grandfathering is allowed. The $$ has to come from somewhere and it won't be from admin. costs
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by maggie
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08/27/07 11:49 AM
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To concerned parent: Have you even asked your middle school about before & after school care? R'club is there & is based on free & reduced lunch. Everyone needs to check their facts before spouting off! Go to pcsb.org for up-to-date info.
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by me
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08/26/07 03:11 PM
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Everyone complained about choice and now everyone loves it!!Ths transportation issue is huge-it is not going to get better by allowing grandfathering for another 5 years.Support Wilcox.
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by Nancy
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08/26/07 03:07 PM
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I agree with Wilcox!! Something needs to be done about the transportation issies in Pinellas CVounty!! Why are we busing children all across town and starting Middle Schools at 945 a.m Let's solve this problem now.No grandfathering should be allowed.
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by Michele
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08/26/07 01:34 PM
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Give families the option to stay in their choice shcools,if they agree to provide their own transportation!!!!
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by Kris
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08/24/07 07:56 PM
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No wonder why so many families are leaving Pinellas County...this is just crazy. They made a promise/contract to us and they need to stick to it. I hope they make the smart CHOICE and allow our kids to stay in their choice school.
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by concerned parent
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08/24/07 07:50 PM
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If you make families provide trans. you take away the promised right to stay from MANY - some have no means of trans. and some can't fit trans. to school hrs. (mid. sch. don't have before/after care(Not many jobs are free to drive AND 9:00 AND 4:30.
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by parent/school volunteer
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08/24/07 06:23 PM
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Very sad! Under the new proposal, My child has attended the same elementary for 6 yrs & now will not be able to move forward to 6th grade with all of her friends. We "CHOSE" this school & we would like to "CHOOSE" the next..so much for "CHOICE"
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by teachermom
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08/24/07 06:01 PM
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I knew this would be a mess, so when my youngest child was accepted to a magnet program I separated my kids. My older children go to a different school than my youngest. We don't use the bus system because it's horrible anyway. I prefer my kids alive
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by R
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08/24/07 04:47 PM
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Typical, NE St. Pete gets screwed again, Riviera to close right after they get their engineering program off the ground.
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by J.
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08/24/07 04:10 PM
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We'd like our child to be in a school close to home. The survey the board keeps talking about never asked what "close" means to each family. 3 miles away is "close" to me; but our current "choice" school wouldn't be considered in our "neighborhood".
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by Vic
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08/24/07 03:35 PM
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Wilcox SUPPORTS leaving the the Fundamental schools as they are,allowing grandfathering at ALL levels EXCEPT those ENTERING grades K,6,or 9,so WHAT IS THE BEEF?Both Wilcox and the board are in AGREEMENT with the majority of us parents.I say YEA!!
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by Jack
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08/24/07 03:23 PM
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I bought a nice home in Seminole 4 years ago so my kids could go to the "neighborhood" school two blocks from the house. My oldest will be graduating from a school he was "bussed" to for the past 3 years. I feel like I wasted my money moving here.
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by Jean
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08/24/07 03:02 PM
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Let the "grandfathered" kids find their own way to get there and be done with it. The board made a written promise..a contract. Give them the chance to stay and that contract isn't broken...but let them drive themselves so it doesn't cost more.
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by Me
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08/24/07 12:11 PM
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Funny how last year everyone hated choice. The survey results showed parents wanted their kids in a school close to home. Now that this might happen, seems we all of a sudden love choice. Make up your minds!!
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by Andy
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08/24/07 12:03 PM
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As an employee of a PCSB school, I would be more than willing to give up my 5 cent raise (if we get anything) to help the budget. That's how much we care about the students in our schools. Bottom line, kids come first when they are in our hands.
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by Paula
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08/24/07 11:52 AM
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I am now on the position that if they are going to change just do it-kids and parents will get overit-in this way my youngest in 2yrs will be in different school-while my others finish 5th and 3rd in another-not my way of doing-add money.
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by maggie
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08/24/07 11:12 AM
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Amazing how every year school board cries how broke they are but by spring money shows up to cover things. It will all wash out in the end, it always does. Administration needs to quit messing with moving our kids around!
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by Rosemary
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08/24/07 09:57 AM
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No sibling preference for either the old Choice schools or the new neighborhood schools? 3 kids in 2 different schools? Nice. Five more years of half-empty buses while actual education faces cuts.
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by pta parent
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08/24/07 09:42 AM
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Suddenly sounds like we have TWO school systems: old Choice & new Neighborhood. TWO bus systems? $5M more? What's with the all-or-nothing mentality? I think we've seen the definition of "knee-jerk reaction" - again.
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by K
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08/24/07 09:11 AM
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If the costs really are that great, why not require parents to drive their kids to the schools that are not local? Probably because some would cry foul-no equal opportunity for education for those who can't/won't drive their kids
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by Bill
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08/24/07 08:53 AM
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Spend the money on education instead of trying to establish some sort of equal attendence between blacks and whites. If someone wants to go to a particular school, then move into that school district. Maybe we should bus hispanics next.
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by Rob
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08/24/07 08:47 AM
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This is all BS! You should go to the school closest to your area and when that one is full, you go to the next closest. Neighborhoods need to be strong, not scattered across the county at the expense of taxpayers. They don't have a problem up north!
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by Monique
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08/24/07 08:46 AM
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Wilcox is pushing his own agenda. He has been against grandfathering from the beginning. Now he's giving the board exaggerated figures to make them change their minds. Stick to your principles board! Your constituents want grandfathering!
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by Steven
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08/24/07 08:44 AM
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Wilcox is inflating the transportation figure. How did he arrive at that figure? Not everyone will stay in their choice school. There are "choice" buses and neighborhood school buses going to every stop now. How can the cost rise so dramatically?
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by Michael
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08/24/07 08:42 AM
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North County parents have no options if grandfathering is taken away. There are no magnets in No. Co. The fundamentals are all full. We want our kids to stay put -- you're taking away OUR choice if you dont' grandfather.
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by Colleen
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08/24/07 08:41 AM
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All schools should be treated equally -- elementary, middle and high school. If they grandfather fundamental, magnet and charter kids they should grandfather ALL kids. Our tax dollars pay for all schools.
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by Pete
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08/24/07 08:40 AM
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A double layer of busing is a load of B.S. Wilcox doesn't want grandfathering and is trying to bully the board with astronomically high figures. The board is too smart for his ploy. Let our kids stay where they are!
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by Liz
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08/24/07 08:39 AM
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We're not asking for transportation -- we will drive our kids to keep them in their choice schools. Give us the option (like the fundamentals) to drive our kids if they want to be grandfathered!
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by Susan
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08/24/07 08:38 AM
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The costs associated with grandfathering will DECREASE each year as each grade "graduates". The costs will NOT be $5 million per year. Wilcox is trying to scare the board into not grandfathering.
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