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"Super exemptions" could cost local budgets millions
Appraisers figure the impact of "super homestead."
By MIKE DONILA, Times Staff Writer
Published August 24, 2007
Want a bigger tax break? Get ready for some sacrifices, local leaders say. Governments across the Tampa Bay region are bracing for deep repercussions if voters sign off on the super homestead exemption, the second part of the state's plan to curtail property tax revenue. In Clearwater, officials warn that recreation centers and a library could face the chopping block. Largo says it might ax a 20-year-old after-school program and a nature park. Operating hours at Hillsborough libraries may shrink. And in St. Petersburg, officials say the little money they saved for arts and social service groups would most likely disappear. The discussions come as the county property appraiser's offices this week tallied "worst-case scenarios" for governments throughout the region if voters approve the proposed constitutional amendment on Jan. 29. The results? Anywhere from a paltry $39,000 hit for Belleair Beach to more than $101-million for Hillsborough County. Pinellas County would bring in about $51-million less, while St. Petersburg estimates the hit at $10.4-million and Clearwater about $3.6-million. "Recreation, law enforcement and fire services certainly won't escape this next round of cuts," Pinellas County Commissioner Ken Welch said. "More jobs, more services, everything. You can't squeeze blood from a turnip, and we're at that point." Officials in Hillsborough County say they set aside $30-million in case the super exemption passes. But that doesn't mean the cuts won't be difficult, said Eric Johnson, the county's director of management and budget. The super exemption -- which needs 60 percent voter approval to pass -- would exempt 75 percent of the first $200,000 of property currently with a homestead exemption, and 15 percent of the next $300,000. The new exemption does not include the 3 percent Save Our Homes cap. To measure the possible impact, appraisers calculated this year's taxable values as though the new exemption was available, and every homeowner selected the option that would provide the biggest tax break. "It's a good ballpark figure and a good exercise for (cities) to have, so they'll have an idea about how it will affect them," said Pinellas County chief property appraiser Pam Dubov. Still, some say the local leaders are crying wolf. During this summer's first round of state-mandated tax cuts, officials threatened to chop a number of services and jobs. They did, but not to the degree they predicted. "I'm not surprised by the reaction," said state Rep. Ed Hooper, R-Clearwater. "The first time it was gloom and doom, and they said they'd have to lay off firefighters and police officers, and they didn't know how to go on. Well, it was a good exercise, but they didn't lay off any fire or police." The first part of the Legislature's plan to slash taxes pushed local property tax collections for the upcoming fiscal year below the current year's levels. To accommodate the rollback, cities and counties chopped jobs, slashed library operating hours and reduced funding for affordable housing programs, youth athletics and neighborhood enhancements. The second part of the tax package is the super homestead exemption. Most taxpayers would be immediately better off under the super exemption than they are now under Save Our Homes protection, which caps at 3 percent annual increases in assessments on homesteaded properties. But how beneficial the super exemption will be in the long term depends largely on how long homeowners plan to stay in their homes. In general, the longer they stay, the more likely they will be better off keeping the existing Save Our Homes cap and $25,000 exemption. Local officials say they just want people to be aware the amendment will affect more than just their pocketbook. "We've been thinking about the January vote a lot and if we lose another $2-million, there are things that will go away," said Largo Mayor Pat Gerard, responding to the possible impact for her city. "People say there is a lot of fat in our budgets, and that's just not true," she said. "Yeah, if the referendum passes, we'll be cutting some programs that people like a lot." Staff writers Aaron Sharockman and Bill Varian contributed to this story. FAST FACTS: Local coffers wouldn't be filled as deeply The Pinellas County Property Appraiser's Office tallied worst-case scenarios for local governments if voters in January okay the super homestead exemption. Here's a look at how much less some cities and the county would collect: Largo: $2-million (-12 percent in property tax revenues) Clearwater: $3.6-million (-7.5 percent) St. Petersburg: $10.4-million (-11 percent) Dunedin: $1.2-million (-14 percent) Pinellas County: $51-million (-12 percent)
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by FLORIDA BALLOT INITIATIVE
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08/26/07 02:54 AM
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several ballot initiatives to reform government regulations, taxes, and insurance.
http://www.topix.net/forum/state/fl/TN0RA4DMD27ET1V9P
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by Jack F
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08/25/07 11:49 PM
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Chuck, it's not time to add any tax. It's time for local government to reign in spending and reduce taxes. They have spend like drunken sailors long enough.
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by eric
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08/25/07 12:29 PM
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yes, tough times for Pinellas County & staff-- there won't be enough of our tax money for them to give each other sweetheart deals like Jim Smith got!!!
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by Chuck
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08/24/07 10:57 PM
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Don't you guys think its about time for a state Income Tax in this State.
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by Ed
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08/24/07 10:50 PM
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I don't give a crap about the library, or cutting grass along the expressways, or kiddie golf lessons(stupid waste). I need a roof over my head. Enough!
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by Chris
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08/24/07 10:45 PM
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Just because I paid more for my house doesn't necessarily mean I should pay more in taxes. Am I using 3 times the services of my neighbor? No. If anything, mine should be lower to compensate for the higher price I paid!
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by Crastille
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08/24/07 10:03 PM
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Property taxes is the no. 1 problem in Florida follow by homeowner's insurance. Yet, Gov. Crist have not done hardly anything to solved the problems. Did you know FL has 1 of the highest property taxes in the nation?
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by Ann
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08/24/07 09:59 PM
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Best proposal so far is still Speaker Marco Rubio's property tax elimination plan for 2.5% more in sales tax. Let's work to get that on the ballot in November, and I'm sure we can get it passed.
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by John
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08/24/07 09:56 PM
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Although the super exemption does not cut taxes enough for residents & property owners, IT'S A GOOD START. I'm voting for it and getting others to support it. After it gets implemented, we can get the FL Legislature to do more like eliminating it.
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by John
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08/24/07 09:51 PM
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kitty is obviously living in lala land.
This is not about how much local govt wants, it's about how much the citizens can afford to pay. The facts are: local gov't ran w/around 50% less budget only a few years back. They are spending like drunks!CUT
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by JM
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08/24/07 04:19 PM
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Read your TRIM notices WELL! It appears we being charged multiple times..water quality (gee, don't i pay Pinellas County utilities, too?), code enforcement..fat cats complaining can't get fatter on our backs? Suck it up like we had to with less!
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by Don
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08/24/07 04:10 PM
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My heart is crying purple peanut butter for the poor poor county and cities...NOT cut it down a LOT MORE AND YOU WILL SEE THEY WERE WAY TOO FAT!
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by Carol
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08/24/07 03:44 PM
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For this study the appraisers calculated this year's taxable values as though every homeowner could claim homestead. The truth is not all homes will qualify for homestead; & most homeowners will maintain their existing homestead to keep their 3% cap.
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by Dan
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08/24/07 03:22 PM
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GrimReaper - Those jobs are at PSTA, St. Pete City Gov amongst many others. When we start cutting ineffectual government employees I will believe we're serious about lowering taxes.
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by DM
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08/24/07 03:17 PM
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Jamie the article was about property taxes and how the city hall will not cut the fat and lower property taxes. Don't worry an insurance article will be here soon enough.Both are huge problems.People don't want high deductibles or to pay for service
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by Jeri
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08/24/07 03:06 PM
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Smith got money out of the city for that property.There goes the cushion.The attorney was a conflict of interest.Puleeeeezzzzze
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by Rob
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08/24/07 03:04 PM
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I have a small condo in Seminole for my father. According to the Prop Appr. It went up by 48 percent in value and taxes increaded by 800 dollars, so where are the cuts?
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by Jamie
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08/24/07 02:09 PM
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I think everyone is forgetting the real problem. It's not your homestead it's homeowner insurance. How come no one is talking about that. Pushing our attention to this is exactly what the insurance lobbyist were hoping for. Let's refocus our attentio
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by Bill
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08/24/07 01:57 PM
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If I got a property tax break I could go to Barnes & Noble and buy books. Keep your stupid library.
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by Bob
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08/24/07 01:20 PM
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If kitty works for the county then donna must be a lacky for one of those corporate CEOs mentioned by kitty that gets gazillions in tax dollars every year. How does it feel to be a dupe donna?
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by maary
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08/24/07 01:14 PM
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Re-elect Jim Smith, Pinellas County Appraiser, he has the answers and connections to help everyone out. Re-elect the man and his office.
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by kitty
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08/24/07 01:12 PM
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donna, don't blame me or anyone else if you're not intelligent or inquisitive enough to understand simple economics.
Or perhaps,judging by the way you got so defensive, you're one of those private sector execs living excessivly off our tax dollars
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by jerry
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08/24/07 01:12 PM
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Recession time people. Where are the snowbirds? second homeowners? Affordable rental homes? You taxed these people out and you don't care. Look at your salary, can most afford the average home price. Remember taxes and insurance. Try and move.
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by jason
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08/24/07 01:07 PM
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Crist is still tan and smiles with his super white teeth. Super exemption was his answer to the tax problems. Floridians voted for this man with his many promises. He was going to immediately solve the property tax problems.
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by judy
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08/24/07 12:59 PM
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Ask the county appraisors office to lower your taxes 4xs lower then the value. I'm sure they will do that for the citizens. Maybe even buy you home back for 4x the value. No problem, ask Mr. Smith. He knows the ropes, been in office 20 yrs. Nice
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by katy
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08/24/07 12:57 PM
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Fl's tax system stinks. Salaries are low, people are indifferent, politicians do not listen to the citizens and are arrogant crooks. Ask the county appraisors office for advice, they know how to work the system. Ask Mr. Smith for a break.
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by tj
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08/24/07 12:53 PM
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A minority number of people are paying 90% of the taxes. Not fair. Buying any price now results in extremely high taxes due to Fl's high milage rate.No one is going to buy a sescond home, rental home. Salaries stink in Fl. Recession, you bet.
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by jackie
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08/24/07 12:48 PM
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You have the option of keeping your save the homes cap. Vote yes. Fl. will be in a hugh recession and then what? However, nothing was accomplished to address the real problem. Jim Smith knows the system, ask him how to save taxes.
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by donna
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08/24/07 12:34 PM
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Kitty works for the County
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by kitty
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08/24/07 12:29 PM
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JB, administrators' salaries are paltry when you consider their counterparts in the private sector, funded by your tax dollars. Why does nobody get angry when their taxes are used to fund bloated corp. salaries but squak if public employees make $85k
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by GrimReaper
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08/24/07 12:26 PM
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"Look at government employees! How many in the priviate sector get 100% of their health insurance & disability insurance paid for" SCOTT PLEASE SHOW ME THOES JOBS I PAY 300 A MONTH for my health care alone and it has a $5000 deductable.
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by kitty
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08/24/07 12:23 PM
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Jim, you pay the same tax rate, but you pay more because you purchased your home after your neighbor. Why is it so difficult for people to understand?
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by kitty
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08/24/07 12:18 PM
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If you are a homeowner who is complaining about the taxes on your primary, homesteaded residence, you're living in a home that you can't afford. That's YOUR BAD! You should have done your homework prior to purchasing to knowyour tax burden.
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by kitty
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08/24/07 12:15 PM
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Chris, yes it is fair. I pay three times what my neighbor pays for taxes because he has lived in his home for more than 15 years, and I've lived in mine for 3, and paid three times for my home than he paid.
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by Rocco
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08/24/07 12:02 PM
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How about making some serious cuts rather than manipulating people. I wouldn't mind cutting water cops. Why are the county's vehicles always so clean? How about washing them less often. Don't allow employees to leave them running. Gas is expensive.
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