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Down, but not out: "I'm not a real estate bum," Realtors say
Brokers in Clearwater area waterfront property, that thin but rich slice of the real estate pie, were among the elite earners until about a year ago. Six-figure pay days were a matter of course as home prices, powered by speculative purchases, doubled and tripled. But these days the waterfront runs red.
By James Thorner, Times Staff Writer
Published August 26, 2007
Carl Burian of Tarpon Springs leaves contact information with real estate broker Liz Seither after describing the property he is hoping to find through her agency, Executive, Inc., in Clearwater.
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Tony Marottoli and Beth Radford's business has dried up.
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Like an operator working a buzzing switchboard, Liz Seither deftly juggles the two phones that never stop ringing in her kitchen. The 67-year-old Clearwater Realtor's eyes are puffy below unkempt flaming orange hair. She begs your pardon for not looking like one of Pinellas County's top home sellers, but her allergies flared up when her dog's fleas bit her. Equally irritating are the bank warning letters laid out before her on the kitchen table. Seither invested - unwisely it turns out - in expensive Clearwater waterfront property at the peak of the recent boom. Lenders are after her for millions of dollars in debts. After juggling 15 calls from debtors, creditors and clients, Seither lays the phones aside and delivers a pep talk to herself. "I'm not a real estate bum," the president of Executive Preferred Properties announces. "I wear diamonds, Rolexes and necklaces. I'm a classy Realtor." - - - Clearwater Realtor Anthony Marottoli's voice betrays a touch of envy when he recalls his 30-something neighbor who made the big score. He recites the exact dollar amount the guy paid for his Mandalay Beach Club condominium - $475,000 - and how much he sold it for two years later - $1.65-million. A 64-year-old Connecticut native, Marottoli entered the real estate roulette game a bit late. Despite asking almost $700,000 less than his neighbor, Marottoli hasn't found a buyer for his Mandalay condo. Doubling down, he's on the hook for another pricey condo at the adjacent Sandpearl Resort for $1.38-million. His real estate business is down to a dribble of employees, from a peak of 20. He's no longer the "listing machine" that juggled 200 properties at once. "I've been waiting a year and a half, waiting for something to happen. And it's not happening," Marottoli says. - - - Brokers in Clearwater area waterfront property, that thin but rich slice of the real estate pie, were among the elite earners until about a year ago. Six-figure pay days were a matter of course as home prices, powered by speculative purchases, doubled and tripled. But these days the waterfront runs red. Properties linger three times as long on the market as they did two years ago. Brokers like Seither and Marottoli have taken it doubly hard: They didn't just represent buyers and sellers, they dabbled in the investment arena themselves. The housing slump has left the market oversupplied with million-dollar homes relative to demand. Listings on Clearwater area beaches approach 1,000. Sales in July numbered 30. As new condo towers open, the glut grows. Says Virgil Sweet, a 24-year Realtor with Rutenburg Realty in Belleair Bluffs: "People don't know you have too many until you have too many." - - - It's a no makeup day for Liz Seither at her home on Island Estates, a barrier island washed by Clearwater Harbor. She's still in slippers, but a diamond anklet dangles from her leg. That and the diamond crucifix around her neck bespeak better times when she prided herself as a "Multi-Million $$$ Producer." She dials a prospect, a movie theater owner from Alabama who's been hunting for beach deals. His voice mail picks up. Seither leaves a message: "Hey you bottom feeder you. Call Liz. Call Liz. I'm still your best Florida friend!" She hangs up the phone and deflates. It's not been her lucky year. Banks threaten to repossess six of seven investment properties. She slashed millions off prices, but still no buyers. Of her 40 home listings, no sales are pending. She rented her private residence to a guy who fell $15,000 behind in rent. The guy arranged to pay Seither. But when she arrived he had vamoosed with her high-end washer, dryer and refrigerator. One a recent day Seither took her dog for a walk and a neighbor flagged her down. "Don't worry, Liz, you're the only one making money," the woman reassured her. Seither hated to disappoint her. "My heart was beating 100 miles per hour," Seither recalls. "It was hard to tell her I'm suffering like everyone else." - - - Anthony Marottoli sits in the lobby of Mandalay Beach Club. White caps curl and crash on Clearwater Beach behind him. He's tanned and dapper in a starched cream-colored button down shirt, slicked back gray hair and loafers without socks. Families dally in the Mandalay pool, but Marottoli says they're all renters. The plan seemed so simple. Buy a condo for $500,000 in Mandalay. Hold it a couple years. Flip it for big money. Invest the proceeds in another million-dollar condo. Flip. Profit. Repeat. A lot of people had the same idea. Of the 153 units at Mandalay fewer than 50 are owner-occupied. "The lights are off at night," Marottoli says. By the end of the month, he has to come up with $1.38-million for a condo he reserved at Sandpearl Resort. He hopes to work out a deal with developer JMC Communities. He can't afford the unit. One of his biggest frustrations as a Realtor is the sellers who cling to high asking prices. On the beaches around Clearwater, the average list price for single-family homes is $1.46-million, up over last year's $1.3-million. "Out on Gulf Boulevard on Belleair Beach there are folks still looking to triple their money. Even in this dead market. See how greed plays?" Marottoli says. - - - Seither's agency is a shell of its former self. The 10 agents she once employed are mostly gone. She survives by managing rentals, 150 properties at last count. Rentals: It's a growth market. At the end of another hectic 12-hour day, she's heading off to dinner. It won't be seafood on the beach, but $7 all-you-can-eat meatloaf next to Kmart. She laughs a rare laugh before heading off to the feast: "We're economizing these days." - - - Behind the wheel of his Cadillac, Marottoli cruises Clearwater Beach. He observes the parade of lots set amid ticky-tacky tourist shops, hotels and restaurants. They're condo projects, the hits and misses of the recent real estate cycle: Indigo, Marquesas, Kiran Grand, Aqualea. Condos figure in Marottoli's plan to revitalize his realty business. He wants to hold regular auctions and places his faith in fractional ownership, where investors pool money to buy million-dollar properties. Marottoli pulls up at developer Uday Lele's office. Lele labors to get his Enchantment luxury condo project off the ground and displays a giant model of his horseshoe-shaped wedding cake of a building. Exuding confidence, he denies the existence of a slump when it comes to his project. For a moment, after basking in Lele's enthusiasm, Marottoli perks up. "I guess it's not all bad," he says as he takes his Cadillac down the strand, toward the condo he can't afford. "Good to see some life."
[Last modified August 24, 2007, 20:00:30]
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by Ken
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09/12/07 11:19 AM
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Please do let us know when these people have to sell their homes, diamonds and Cadillacs. That's would be the signal to buy real estate.
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by Britt
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09/04/07 09:48 AM
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Maybe if the realtors spent their money wisely when the market was up, they wouldn't be in the situation that they are in now. They blew all of their riches then & are now left shopping in KMART with their diamonds and rolexes. Oh, the IRONY of it!
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by Rusell
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09/04/07 08:21 AM
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You win some, you lose some. Same as the stock market. Same as any other investment. People need to take accountability about their own investment decisions. Pretty simple. What's to debate?
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by Jan
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09/03/07 12:24 PM
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Yes there were greedy agents, but those of us who hve been the business blame the powers that the lenders do what they did. Now all of us pay and some fall by the wayside thanks to the top heavy people who allowed this.
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by Kay
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09/03/07 07:39 AM
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I think it's time for Liz to hang it up. She gives other Realtors like me a bad name. I don't care how long you've been in the business - usually those are the worst ones, they think they're above everyone. It's sickeningly arrogant.
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by Eric
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09/02/07 11:22 PM
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the problem is relating rolex and dimonds to class their are high priced hookers who wear Dimonds what ever happend to morals and Honor.PS I have moor respect for the Hookers
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by Ted
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09/02/07 05:33 PM
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You are not a bum just a leach.
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by John
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09/01/07 09:22 AM
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Hard working? Masonry contractors work hard, landscapers work hard, the average middle class american works hard. Wanna-be investors / flippers / real estate agents work hard????? Puh-leaze.
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by AJ
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09/01/07 08:11 AM
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I guess these cases you write about are the what the media is screaming are the subprime mess? Does not sound like subprime to me! This problem is greater than subprime mortgages; how about legalized pyrimiad-ponzi scam sanctioned by uncle sam.
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by John
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08/31/07 10:23 AM
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And still they ride in their Cadillacs.
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by BobbieJo
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08/31/07 09:50 AM
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> Big spender, yet she cant make her mortgage payments. She has her priorities straight. Sheesh.
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by Kevin
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08/31/07 09:10 AM
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No sympathy from me. Pure greed and entitlement mentality. And now they will want the US taxpayers to bail them out. The person who owns one modest home and has lived conservatively will now be paying (via taxes) to bail out these high fliers.
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by Lori
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08/30/07 09:52 PM
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I've lived on Clearwater Beach for more than 10 years. The real estate agents, developers, investor wannabees and the local government hooligans have totally ruined it. I hope they all burn.
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by lisamarie
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08/30/07 06:23 PM
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Enough already the editor of this article took things totally out of context I think a RETRACTION should be made and talk about the good of Ms. Seither and not all this trash, she works harder than anyone I know!!!!!
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by Justin
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08/29/07 11:25 AM
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By the time it looks like a sure thing, and your average Joe becomes a real estate investor/developer/flipper, the party is over. There is no such thing as long term easy money. Things like this are short lived and we are now returning to normalcy..
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by Dave
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08/28/07 07:01 PM
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The entire Real Estate Bubble was a result of the primal human emotion ... GREED! When about a dozen shows on TV are about flipping real estate ... well, only an idiot wouldn't know it was a bubble!
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by W.H.
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08/28/07 04:39 PM
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If you are a friend of someone in this article, then tell them to sell their fancy jewelry, or sell their property with only a $10,000 profit. Stop the whining! Some people still have nothing in New Orleans. Some people have it worse.
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by Frank
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08/28/07 02:32 PM
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I am a past client of Liz'z and she has went out of her way to help me,not only the property but in so many other ways I can't begin to tell you.
SHAME on you low life's for all blaming a wonderful lady that helps so many no matter what. SHAME SHAME
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by John
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08/27/07 05:23 PM
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These properties would sell if the buyers lower their prices low enough.
Say you bought a condo in Mandalay Bay for $475,000 three or four years ago. I'll bet it would sell in a heartbeat at $500,000-$550,000. Asking for near $1-million is crazy.
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by Maria
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08/27/07 03:41 PM
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I know Liz-she's nice, good,hard working realtor- But shes ruthless too!She'll be ok.I too am a realtor but would rather take my kids to the movies than wear a Rolex- I'm not jealous nor am I just greedy! Just want to make a living & support my kids.
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by A.H.
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08/27/07 01:47 PM
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Who says don't blame the realtors?? Wake up, did you read the article, How many investment properties are being taken by the bank?(FLIPPER). Realtors got greedy with property flipping, just like anyone who is greedy, carma is carma.
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by Bill
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08/27/07 01:21 PM
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Over 1,000 listings in Clearwater Beach. Are you aware that less than 1,000 properties sold in all of Pinellas County last month??? As a mortgage lender it's great to work with Liz. She works smart and hard. Most agents will list you and leave you.
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by Pryor
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08/27/07 01:14 PM
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This article is just not right. We've all made bad investments, I have. All you can eat meat loaf next to Kmart? It was meat loaf at 1st & 10 on Missouri. LIZ PAID FOR ALL OF US. She could have had filet and lobster at Alstott's Island way Grill!
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by Arnie
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08/27/07 11:28 AM
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There's so much wrong in this article I don't know where to begin. You think it's bad now, let's see what it's like 18 to 24 months from now when Mandalay looks like a ghost town. The credit crisis has gone global.
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by Joe
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08/27/07 10:53 AM
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Wearing Diamonds,Rolexes and necklaces does not make one classy..she comes off as a giant Buffoon!
What an embarassment to her agents and clients!
If things get much worse,she might have to wear her Tiara to McDonald's for dinner next!
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by John
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08/27/07 09:41 AM
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I am a seasoned R/E investor of over 30 years. I am buying every deal I can knowing that now is the time to buy. If you think that your home will be worth less 10 years from now PLEASE call me.... You are the type person I want to buy from!!!!
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by Kathi
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08/27/07 08:39 AM
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I have known Liz for 20 yrs. She has always been 1 of the most hard working people I have even known. Your article did HER a big injustice! The market "sucks" for all realtors & sellers. Help with the insurance prices is what we need,not mud slinging
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by ELOUISE
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08/27/07 08:17 AM
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The over excited buyers,mortgage companies,taxes caused this problem. Realtors can only sell what the buyers want and buyers set the price. They jumped in & over bid many,many times & that hurt everyone. Blame the right people. The 20's are back
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by Jerry
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08/27/07 07:41 AM
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These people are not going broke because they are Realtors but because they tried to make the fast buck as flippers. Flippers are speculative investors and with any investment some times you win and some times you loss...welcome to my world.
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by Lew
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08/27/07 06:27 AM
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Yes Lady! you ARE a real estate BUM!
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by Vidal
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08/27/07 06:02 AM
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I think it will get a whole lot worse before it gets any better.
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by dave
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08/27/07 03:06 AM
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Yes, good riddance. Better put some meatloaf in your purse, you might need it later...
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by russ
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08/27/07 12:19 AM
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blood suckers get their blood sucked.
poetic justice.
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by JK
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08/26/07 11:49 PM
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I think the realtors were the only ones playing this game. Sorry for their luck but it's about destroyed the rest of us real people who would like to live here, buy a house, etc. Then we have Mayor Rick Condo,when is his ballon going to land? Too bad
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by Bob
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08/26/07 11:16 PM
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As a REALTOR, we do not set $$. The $ is based on what the seller wants, and what the buyer is willing to pay. BUYERS (incl. investors) bid up the $ during the boom. Now buyers are bidding DOWN the $. Most $ are getting to 2003 levels now.
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