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USF students' box of bullets adds intrigue
Bullets were in the car of arrested USF pair.
By ABBIE VANSICKLE and KEVIN GRAHAM, Times Staff Writers
Published September 6, 2007
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The deputy who pulled over Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed and Youssef Samir Megahed found a box of bullets near the seat, several pipe bombs in the trunk and "other suspicious items," according to the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office.
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TAMPA -- Bullets were among the items investigators found in the car of two University of South Florida students.
The deputy who pulled over Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed and Youssef Samir Megahed, 21, found a box of bullets near the seat, several pipe bombs in the trunk and "other suspicious items," according to the Berkeley County Sheriff's Office.
The men have said they had only fireworks, but deputies found no sign of any commercial fireworks, said Berkeley County Chief Deputy C.W. Henerey.
The new information only deepened the mystery of why the two engineering students ended up on Aug. 4 in Goose Creek, S.C., a suburban city near Charleston.
A Tampa grand jury indicted the men last week on charges of transporting explosives in interstate commerce without permits.
Mohamed, whose age has been listed variously as 24 and 26, is also charged with distributing information relating to explosives, destructive devices and weapons of mass destruction, a terrorism-related statute.
The two men, who are Egyptian citizens, have yet to appear in federal court.
On Wednesday, a high-level official from the Egyptian Embassy in Washington, D.C., visited the jail in rural Moncks Corner. Andy Savage, attorney for Megahed, said Ashraf Salama spoke with the two defendants for more than four hours. Defense attorneys were present, although the conversation was mostly in Arabic.
Savage said Salama wanted to be assured the men were being treated properly. And he also refuted a widespread rumor that one of them had a previous arrest in Egypt.
"There is no hint of any impropriety either political or criminal for either one of them," Savage said. The embassy official said their families "enjoy a very good reputation in Egypt."
Families of the two men say they're still struggling to understand what happened.
Reached by phone in Egypt, Mohamed's father said his son and family are in trouble. "We are not in a good situation."
He said he did not know what his son had been doing in South Carolina or what he may have had in the car.
Saying his son was "a good person," he declined to talk further. "I do not want to speak about this subject until we find a solution."
Megahed's father, Samir Megahed, a 60-year-old Egyptian civil engineer from New Tampa, said he didn't know about the bullets in the car. Asked if he doubted his son's innocence, Megahed replied with a soft, "No."
Megahed has said previously he fears his son may be jailed in South Carolina until trial.
Tampa lawyer Stephen Crawford, a former federal prosecutor, said concerns by Megahed's father are understandable.
"It is a scary, scary thought," he said. "I'd be concerned, too, if I were his dad."
But the indictment was returned in Tampa federal court, which means Mohamed and Megahed would likely come to a local jail so they could attend hearings, Crawford said.
As for the family's concerns that the men could be moved to the brig at the Naval Weapons Station near Goose Creek or to some far-off detention facility like Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, legal experts say those fears are likely unfounded.
"It would certainly be illegal to transfer somebody from this country to Guantanamo," said Jonathan Hafetz, an attorney at the Brennan Center for Justice at New York University.
And the naval brig isn't likely either, experts say.
Legal experts have puzzled over wording in the indictment that refers to a U.S. Code on terrorism, even though the U.S. Attorney's Office has said the case is not about terrorism.
"It is, I would say, the bread and butter charge," said Scott Silliman, a law professor at Duke University. "It is the most frequent charge that is used in terrorism cases."
Michael L. Seigel, a University of Florida law professor and former federal prosecutor, said he wouldn't be surprised to see a revised indictment handed up with more specific details.
"They have to have some theory that they weren't just carrying these bombs, but they were carrying them with some intent," Seigel said.
Times staff writers Colleen Jenkins and Amber Mobley and news researcher John Martin contributed to this report. Abbie VanSickle can be reached at vansickle@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3373.
[Last modified September 6, 2007, 00:54:04]
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by ahmed
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01/02/08 06:06 PM
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seeing the kind of comments posted here , make me doubt that these guys have any chance o fair trial
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by Philip
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09/07/07 05:00 AM
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I wish we attacked the ideology of Islam more.Islam is easy to destroy because of its many stupid contradictions.
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by Bob
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09/06/07 09:27 PM
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It will be interesting to see how they prove this case, given that they blew up the evidence. I hope the police at least took pictures first.
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by MuslimsAreVermin
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09/06/07 08:59 PM
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Time to string up this muslim filth and put the rest in concentration camps pending deportation or, better yet, extermination.
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by jon
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09/06/07 12:21 PM
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COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) -- Former South Carolina Treasurer Thomas Ravenel, once seen as a rising political star, pleaded guilty Thursday to a federal charge of possession with intent to distribute cocaine. Were the USF guys off to SC for cocaine?
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by John
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09/06/07 12:07 PM
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Where is the NRA? Bullets are part of the God Given American right to Bear Arms! Although, in S.C. most bullets are used for hunting game. Suppose the pipes & bullets are zip guns not pipe bombs? What is the local firearms charge?
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by JT
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09/06/07 11:27 AM
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This is scary. It appears we have a growing islamofascist movement in our area. I don't want my tax dollars going to USF anymore if they are going to harbor these types of anti-American people. What is a Egyptian engineer. Is he an illegal alien???
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by Joe
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09/06/07 09:57 AM
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Better question is does the government screen anyone coming in the country?
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by jesse
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09/06/07 09:56 AM
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Just so the dad knows, most kids don't have bullets and pipe bombs in their car. They also don't end up in another state near with no explanation of why they are there. Terrorists are always nice guys right up until they do something.
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by Paul
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09/06/07 09:41 AM
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They're from USF engineering school. Does that ring any bells with anyone? Anyone, anyone... Beuller? They are either guilty or the biggest morons in the world, being middle eastern USF engr students and carrying these things around in their car.
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by Loretha
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09/06/07 09:39 AM
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Hey Seigel-of course they were carrying bombs with intent on using them! Why else would they be near a Naval base? They think we are stupid-just like Al Arian did and his smirk got wiped off his face. Hope these guys are found guilty as well.
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by Don
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09/06/07 08:58 AM
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This is obviously a case of terrorism. Trying to make it a racial profiling case doesn't hold water. Bullets are not fireworks. Pipe bombs are not fireworks..... Why were these guys near a military base when they are students in Tampa??
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by jim
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09/06/07 08:55 AM
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USF will win the National Title in terrorism this year if all goes well. The BCS standings prove it...
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by john
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09/06/07 07:22 AM
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Does USF lead their conference in ties to terrorism?
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