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Gambling roadblock ahead
Rubio and five other Republicans say the Legislature can halt a deal with Seminoles.
By STEVE BOUSQUET and STEVE HUETTEL, Times Staff Writers
Published September 11, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - State House leaders on Monday told Gov. Charlie Crist that any casino gambling deal with the Seminole Tribe would need to be ratified by the Legislature, and said they have the votes to block the tribe from running lucrative table games such as blackjack.
In a letter to Crist, House Speaker Marco Rubio and five other Republicans set forth their opposition to allowing the tribe to make money from any new gambling ventures other than the Las Vegas-style slot machines already in use at three Broward County race tracks.
"We believe the pursuit of increased revenue for the state should be of secondary importance in Florida's negotiations with the tribe," they wrote. "Rather, we believe the aim of the negotiations should be to agree to the bare minimum amount of gambling to which the tribe is entitled under the law. Instead of maximizing revenue, we want to minimize the inevitable social harm associated with increased tribal gambling."
The letter cited an opinion issued Sept. 6 by Attorney General Bill McCollum, who said the state can negotiate a deal with the tribe without allowing any type of gambling currently prohibited by state law.
After seeing the letter, Crist said it is still "my preference" to have the Legislature review any compact with the tribe, but stopped short of committing to it. He also sounded less optimistic about the chances of it being completed.
"I'm not saying we're going to have a compact," Crist said. "I look at it as an opportunity, but not a necessity."
He declined to discuss details of the talks with the Seminole tribe, which is seeking more gambling options at its seven Florida sites, including the Seminole Hard Rock Casino near Tampa. "I'm not going to negotiate with them right here," he said, facing a battery of cameras and microphones.
Crist has cited a possible gambling pact, in which the state would get a piece of the action, as one way to solve a pressing budget shortfall that is estimated at $2.5-billion over two years.
Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne wrote Crist in June, saying the department could approve expanded gaming for the Seminoles without the state's approval. In that case, the Seminoles would not be required to share any of the gaming revenue with the state.
Rep. Ray Sansom, R-Destin, who will succeed Rubio as speaker in 2008, said he is strongly opposed to any expansion of gambling. He predicted the House has more than 61 votes needed to defeat a compact if it expanded gambling.
"I'm not in favor of trying to balance the budget on the backs of the weaknesses of people who gamble," Sansom said.
The letter was sent on the eve of today's scheduled discussion between state officials, the tribe and the Interior Department on the progress of negotiations.
The House letter is another effort by Rubio to draw a distinction between himself and Crist over the expansion of gambling - an issue that is still a flash point of controversy with Republican social conservatives.
The tribe contends that because slot machines are considered Class 3 gaming, they should be permitted to offer all other Class 3 games, such as blackjack, roulette and craps. McCollum's opinion said those games don't have to be part of the negotiations.
Senate President Ken Pruitt, R-Port St. Lucie, said in a brief statement that the compact would need to be ratified by the Legislature, but declined to comment on specifics until a compact is reached.
Barry Richard, an attorney for the Seminoles, said Rubio and other House leaders might feel differently when a final agreement is hammered out. "They have not yet seen the final draft," Richard said. "Hopefully, when he and other Republicans see it, it might dissipate some of their opposition."
Richard said a deal could restrict expansion of gambling in Florida by limiting it to the seven Seminole casinos. "By providing a substantial amount of dollars, it could reduce the state's need to expand gaming elsewhere."
The governor's negotiators and the tribe have agreed in principle to a deal that would give Florida $50-million immediately after signing and a minimum of $100-million a year, said Richard. The tribe's projections show the state's percentage share will be significantly higher.
Information from the Associated Press was used in this report. Steve Bousquet can be reached at bousquet@sptimes.com or (850)224-7263.
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by TINA
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09/18/07 12:47 PM
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I THINK IT IS GREAT THAT TAMPA BAY IS GOING TO HAVE A CASINO WITH SLOT,S THAT,S WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR. WHEN WILL IT OPEN. THANK YOU!!
TINA C.
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by Mary Ann
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09/16/07 10:39 AM
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Mr. Rubio should get into the modern times and allow those who do want to gamble to do so in their own state!! Prude, prude, prude.......get your head out of the sand and grow up!
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by Richard
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09/15/07 11:16 AM
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Rubio and his crowd are are the worst form of hypocrites. Where the lottery is the most evil form of gambling known to man they stand down. There will always be grand standers no matter what the issue. They are the do as I say not as I do crowd.
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by Raptor
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09/11/07 10:44 PM
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Our legislature needs to get real about gambling. Florida has lost the battle. We have gambling; dogs, horses,poker,sports pools,lotto, bingo,cruise boats,etc. You name it we got it.Deal with the Indians and leave petty politics and egos out of it.
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by Mike
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09/11/07 08:01 PM
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Is the state of Florida for real? The federal government said the Seminole tribe can receive class 3 gaming without the state of Florida's approval...with the tax money flowing right out of the state. The Gov. is right - Do the deal!
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by Mondo
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09/11/07 07:29 PM
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This state is a joke. Instead bringing in more tourists lets just lose them to Biloxi, Vegas, Atlantic City, etc. Here is an opportunity to bring more visitors into the state to spend their money. They have to stay in hotels, eat, etc. getaclue!!
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by Bob V
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09/11/07 06:51 PM
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Gov Chiles spent millions for state lawyers to block the Indians from building the Hard Rock in Tampa. The Tribe offered the state money then. Gov Chiles said no, now we have the Hard Rock in Tampa and the state gets little or no money. Lets deal
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by JT
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09/11/07 05:10 PM
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Well, if you really want to screw things up, let the legislature have a say.
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by DanO
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09/11/07 02:20 PM
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It would help to read the opinion http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/printview/23FBEF8B371FFCD68525734F004F8F6F
I don't know what Rubio intends as the Seminole tribe will get Class III slots either way and FL will not get a cent w/o a compact.
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by James
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09/11/07 12:55 PM
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If I can't play blackjack then you shouldn't be allowed to play the lottery,dogs,horses or bingo. While I'm at it, also no stocks,bonds,real estate 401k's, gold, oil or pork bellies for you. No driving on public roads, no more than 30 minutes of sun,
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by John
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09/11/07 12:54 PM
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We don't seem to have a problem generating revenue on the weakness of people who smoke - or the weakness of people who drink, why is revenue from gambling a problem? Because it provides politicians the opportunity to appear socially conservative.
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by Bob M
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09/11/07 12:44 PM
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Open up the state to gambling like Missippi and Nj , Pa is doing it at the tracks ,If not get a cut from the tribe
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by Dale
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09/11/07 12:40 PM
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Sure, let the Legislature decide...what a joke. They couldn't get it right on taxes or insurance, but they're all experts on protecting us from ourselves when it comes to gambling. How absurd! The money will just continue to flow out of Florida.
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by PAT
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09/11/07 12:29 PM
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This is a win-win for the indians either the state takes the income or the federal government does - big stakes gambling is coming to the HARD ROCK they dont build like that without knowing there is a payoff at the end. Crist needs to sign NOW.
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by Bland
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09/11/07 11:13 AM
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What Florida needs more of, prostitutes and wise guys. Folks lets stop this now, we have messed up the social aspect of Florida enough. Let these people go to Vegas or Jearsey and in the future Cuba.
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by MVG
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09/11/07 10:58 AM
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When this is all over I "bet" the Seminoles end up with high stake games and the state won't get a cut. It drives me crazy that the state runs a gambling operation yet Rubio thinks he is taking some kinda high road.
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by Lynn
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09/11/07 09:20 AM
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For once someone is thinking about something besides revenue.
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by John
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09/11/07 09:07 AM
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Seminoles may as well tell Crist to kiss off, and just go ahead and deal with the Feds. Money is not a concern of the State anyway.
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by darryl
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09/11/07 06:12 AM
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What is the big deal about gambling here in this state?Look at the jobs it would create.Look at the money the state can make!!and be used for so many things this state needs.people say it will create crime.we have that already!Lets make money.
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by Tami
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09/11/07 05:00 AM
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WOO HOO finally someone is learning and remembering history!!!!! Thank you for not repeating the mistakes of our past. Too bad it can't be applied elsewhere in politics. Thank you legislature for not giving in to lobbyist pressure!!
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