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Case against pair shown
Prosecutors: USF students had explosive materials, instructions.
By ABBIE VANSICKLE, Times Staff Writer
Published September 15, 2007
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The U.S. Attorney's Office opened up about what was found in the car of two USF students: pipes stuffed with fertilizer, Karo syrup, kitty litter, bullets and fuses, a laptop with Internet searches about martyrdom, Hamas and Qassam rockets and video instructions for turning a child's toy into a detonator.
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Ahmed Abda Sherf Mohamed waived his right to a bail hearing. His attorney said he didn't think bond would be granted to him.
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The judge ordered Yousef Samir Megahed, 21, to post $200,000 bail, to remain at his family's home, and to leave only for religious services and to meet with his attorneys.
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TAMPA - Pipes stuffed with fertilizer, Karo syrup and kitty litter. Bullets and fuses. A laptop with Internet searches about martyrdom, Hamas and Qassam rockets. Video instructions for turning a child's toy into a detonator.
After weeks of silence, the U.S. Attorney's Office opened up about its case against two University of South Florida engineering students facing explosives charges, implying that Youssef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed had something sinister in mind when they left Tampa in early August and headed north.
Despite the grim implications of what the government presented, prosecutors said they had no "hard, specific evidence" of a motive or answers for a judge's questions about what the men intended to do with the items, prompting U.S. Magistrate Judge Elizabeth Jenkins to set bail for one of the men, although he remains in custody pending appeal.
The question of intent has been the biggest puzzle since Aug. 4, when Megahed, 21, and Mohamed, 26, were pulled over for speeding in Goose Creek, S.C., and arrested after a deputy became suspicious and searched the pair's car.
From the start, Megahed's family has said the young man went on a harmless road trip, the whims of college students on summer vacation. The family and supporters filled Courtroom 14B on Friday afternoon, and Megahed's siblings were beaming after the judge's ruling.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Jay Hoffer laid out the government's case, saying they view the men as dangerous and at risk of fleeing to their home country of Egypt, a place that doesn't always return fugitives to the United States.
Here's what Hoffer said:
When federal agents searched the men's car, a Toyota Camry registered to Megahed's brother, Yahia Megahed, they found the stuffed pipes wrapped in plastic bags in the trunk alongside a 5-gallon container of gasoline.
Explosives experts categorized the items in the trunk as incomplete pipe bombs, each large enough to blow out windows in a room but not strong enough to destroy a house. Potassium nitrate is a low-grade explosive otherwise used as fertilizer. Kitty litter bound the ingredients while syrup could add fuel.
"I think you can safely say it's a bomb," said Edward Dreizin, a New Jersey Institute of Technology chemical engineering professor.
Agents also found a box of bullets underneath the front passenger seat, where Megahed sat. On a laptop hastily unplugged, agents discovered sites that concerned them, including searches of Qassam rockets, weapons developed by the Palestinian militant group Hamas, often made with steel pipe, liquid sugar and potassium nitrate.
The men were taken into custody and separately questioned. Megahed said he knew nothing about the materials in the trunk, Hoffer said. But when both men were put in the back of a squad car, they spoke to each other in Arabic. In that conversation, which was secretly recorded, Megahed asked Mohamed what happened to the pipes, if they exploded.
As agents dug deeper into the men's background, they found troubling information, Hoffer said.
In July, Mohamed posted a video on YouTube that explained how to transform a toy remote controlled car into a detonator, Hoffer said. The 12-minute video is narrated by a man speaking Arabic with an Egyptian accent. It shows no face, only hands.
"Mohamed admitted he made and uploaded it," Hoffer said.
The video's narrator says it's meant "to save one who wants to be a martyr for another day in battle," Hoffer said. The narrator also mentions a previous example that used a remote controlled toy boat. Federal agents searched the New Tampa home of Megahed's family and found a remote controlled toy boat, Hoffer said.
The judge asked if there was a definite link between the two, and Hoffer said no.
The evidence against Mohamed wasn't the focus, though, because he waived his right to a bail hearing. His attorney, Lionel Lofton, was in Tampa on Friday, but said he didn't think a hearing would have been useful at this time.
"I did not feel he would be granted a bond," he said.
Prosecutors also questioned Megahed's interest in weapons. He recently purchased a .22-caliber rifle and had inquired about a Berreta handgun, Hoffer said. Agents found the rifle inside a storage shed, along with welding and scuba diving equipment.
Megahed had joined a shooting range.
"It certainly raised interesting questions when he's training ... he buys a firearm with a scope," Hoffer said.
Prosecutors said Megahed also had "multiple Egyptian passports" and went to Sears in late July to get more passport-sized photos. There were two passports for Megahed with two different names, Hoffer said.
But Assistant U.S. Public Defender Adam Allen said one of the passports had expired, and that Megahed had used another version of his family's name on the document.
Agents did not seize the passports when they searched the Megahed home, Hoffer said, and they feared, if released, Megahed could flee to Egypt, which does not always extradite fugitives back to the United States. Megahed's extensive travel, both to Egypt and to other countries, including Canada, Saudi Arabia and Nigeria, also concerned prosecutors.
When Megahed was arrested, he carried only a California-issued identification card and a photocopy of an immigration green card, Hoffer said.
Allen asked the judge to consider that Megahed had no criminal record and could be closely watched by his family.
"I don't think the government's evidence against my client is overwhelming," he said. He called the evidence against Mohamed "pretty damning."
The judge found the evidence to be "strong" but not "overwhelming" enough to prove Megahed was a dangerous flight risk that must be jailed until trial. "I do agree that he poses danger," she said.
She ordered him to post $200,000 bail, to remain at his family's home, and to leave only for religious services and to meet with his attorneys. His family also was required to consent to a search at any time.
After the hearing, prosecutors immediately filed an appeal, which will likely be addressed next week, Allen said.
As they filed from the courtroom, Megahed's family smiled.
"I'm happy, I'm really happy," said his sister, Mariam Megahed, 18. She said prosecutors couldn't back up much of what they suggested, and the judge knew it.
"Maybe they don't have any evidence because she kept asking questions, questions and more questions," she said.
Ahmed Bedier, director of the Central Florida office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, was quick to distinguish between Megahed and Mohamed.
"It's obvious there are two separate individuals with different charges and different allegations," he said. "I wouldn't be surprised if the two individuals end up having separate cases altogether."
He defended Megahed, saying it appeared he "just happened to be in the car." But he had harsher words for Mohamed.
If he could talk to Mohamed, Bedier said, "I'd say, 'Wake up!' "
He added, "Muslims don't get a second chance when they dabble with things like this. Not only will this have consequences on him, but it will have consequences on most of the Muslims in this country."
Staff writers Colleen Jenkins, S.I. Rosenbaum, Justin George and Shannon Colavecchio-Van Sickler and news researcher John Martin contributed to this report. Abbie VanSickle can be reached at 813 226-3373 or vansickle@sptimes.com.
Found in the car
When a routine traffic stop led police to search a car driven by Youssef Megahed, here's what was found:
- Three pieces of PVC pipe cut into various sizes, 1 foot or less, filled with potassium nitrate (used in fertilizer) and Karo syrup. Cat litter was used to bind those ingredients.
- Safety fuse, 20 feet.
- Electric drill
- Bullets
- Gasoline, 5 gallon canister
- Laptop computer reflecting visits to the following Web sites: a video file that shows Qassam rockets firing, Hamas information, a discussion of martyrdom, M-16 rifle photos
Source: U.S. Attorney's Office
How much power?
Explosive experts interviewed by the Times say the loaded PVC tubes sound like incomplete pipe bombs, lacking only detonators. Each one, while not powerful enough to blow up a house, could blow out the windows in a room. However, without a detonator, the devices would simply have burned slowly. The chemical combination would not produce what people would typically think of as fireworks.
Sources: Edward Dreizin, New Jersey Institute of Technology chemical engineering professor; Vilem Petr, Colorado School of Mines explosive engineering professor; Van Romero, New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology vice president for research
[Last modified September 14, 2007, 23:56:02]
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by frank
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10/01/07 02:53 PM
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We got lucky as police found them in a routine traffic stop... unfortunately our Legal System will leave them out soon due lack of evidence...
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by Ed
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10/01/07 02:48 PM
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Way to go arresting to people for a crime that they have yet to commit.(Minority Report?) Though they may have had mats for a bomb they did not have a bomb and they did not blow anything up, thus no crime had been committed.
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by Holly
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09/22/07 12:58 AM
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Of course these two were preparing for an attack of some sort. They were doing a dress rehearsel before the real event. It doesn't take a genious to figure out these two were up to no good. These men should be kept behind bars indefinately.
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by debbie
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09/21/07 10:43 PM
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I say "wake up America" both of them were in this car loaded with potential bombs, and majoring in engineering" Can we as Americans take a chance that these idiots will do something bad to us, they will if we give them a chance. I say lock them up.
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by Mitch
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09/18/07 06:48 PM
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Duhhh... testing device ingreadients. First, you test, then you make the real thing. It's obvious this was the test materials on the way to be assembled, prepared and tested.
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by Mike
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09/17/07 11:46 PM
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Goose Creek stores Nukes!
Now knowing that, What do you suppose they might have used explosives for on that Naval Base?
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by Kix
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09/17/07 10:46 AM
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I'd like to ask Judge Jenkins a couple of questions. 1) Other than blow something/someone up; what does she think they intended to do with TWO BOMBS? 2) Is she willing to be held PERSONALLY accountable for whatever Megahed does if she releases him?
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by amy
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09/16/07 01:46 PM
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Yes, this is how this country works. Holding these men in jail because they had items that could make an explosive when white Americans are blowing up schools, going into malls and shooting people, killing their wives and children. .
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by Gary
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09/16/07 11:32 AM
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Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck..... what's the problem? These individuals must be dealt with as "terrorists" - the act was stopped before it could take place, thanks to some very alert police officers!
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by jean
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09/15/07 07:16 PM
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The AP dug up a previous arrest of Mohamed, for...wait for it...making a video teaching how to make a remotely-triggered car bomb. This was in Egypt. Both these guys are dangerous.
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by Bubba
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09/15/07 06:56 PM
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The feds did them a favor getting them out of SC. They'll get a fair trial. Frankly, I don't see where anyone needs to be driving around with the stuff they had and the YouTube video pretty much shows what was intended
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by MarineMom
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09/15/07 06:43 PM
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Is it true Muslim students at USF are protesting this arrest?
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by db
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09/15/07 06:02 PM
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I cannot believe 2 islamic "engineering students" would be stupid enough to carry that type of material in their car unless their intent was to test/use it. It is hard to trust the muslim community when they defend these two.
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by Rickster
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09/15/07 05:57 PM
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Am glad the gov't was more forthcoming in showing the public what they found.
Until now, we didn't know what to believe.
The gov't needs to do this more often and keep the public informed, not scared.
Looks like these guys were up to no good.
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by mary
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09/15/07 05:17 PM
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So much for homeland security! They find the obvious and the judge lets them go. They had similar components to the Okla City bomber in smaller quantities, hardly an innocent thing. This is not profiling..just keeping us safe!
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by Sal
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09/15/07 03:00 PM
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Lock them up! The devices were bombs plain and simple, no if's and's or but's...
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by William
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09/15/07 02:57 PM
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These two are no good. Fullest penalties and jail time then out of the country!
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by Kraig
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09/15/07 02:50 PM
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They need to lock these guys up. Better yet put them in a building and detonate their Bomb on themselves. See how they like to get terrorized by them selves. We should have a zero tolerance for this kind of behavior. 911 remember wake up!
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by Jon
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09/15/07 01:50 PM
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Please investigate where they got the potassium nitrate. This is the most alarming aspect of the case.
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by R. Fix
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09/15/07 12:59 PM
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Both of these fellos were caught actively engaging in by federal definition "terrorist activities". Neither is an american citizen. They readily admit breaking our law and have lied continually to authorities. Yet they demand special tratment
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by Dave
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09/15/07 12:54 PM
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What is missing here is the St Pete Times saying that George Bush's war in Iraq made extremists out of these two. We were able to shut down the KKK, why cant we do the same with "The Religion of Peace" and there meeting places (Mosques)
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by Rick
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09/15/07 12:50 PM
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I say deport them! After they do some hard time. Who do think they are kidding, fire works indeed. If this is racial profiling, keep up the good work FBI.They were up to no good.
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by A. J.
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09/15/07 11:56 AM
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These examples of young Islamists are here; why? To 'get an education'? The scariest part is that their 'martyrdom' zeal is only surpassed by their ignorance and stupidity. Why not just stop letting these brainwashed ragheads into the US?
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by Don
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09/15/07 10:39 AM
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People should boycott YouTube or let Google, which owns YouTube, know that they should not provide the means for terrorists to transmit their propaganda.
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by Paul
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09/15/07 10:01 AM
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Put them under heavy sedation, implant tracking and recording chips into them and let them go free. Lets see just where these guys go and who they talk to. I be there's a ton more of this going on over at USF than anyone can imagine.
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by BUBBA
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09/15/07 09:37 AM
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It's not like these are bored 16 yr old punk kids blowing up mailboxes with firecrackers.
They are both grown men who study Holy War and practice bombmaking.
Something tells me their new cellmate Bubba won't take kindly to these charges!!
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by Dave
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09/15/07 09:05 AM
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So long Megahead!!!
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by Jen
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09/15/07 08:57 AM
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St. Pete Times, thanks for covering this. I don't know why I'm not seeing similar coverage on national news networks, this should be of national interest.
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by Jim
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09/15/07 08:36 AM
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Just fireworks? Sorry fellas, we beg to differ..How was this racial profiling by the way? So what if it was! Notice how the CAIR spokesman immediately after their arrest cried discrimination..Thanks Jessie and Al for teaching them the system..
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by Kyle
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09/15/07 08:24 AM
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Typical America- we hold the innocent in jail for extended times with no charges. We racial profile. We hear how "they are great kids". Organizations have press releases declaring "let them go". My replay "let em go, the hell outta america."
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by Dan
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09/15/07 08:18 AM
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2 students 'visiting' the USA with low powered explosives, although not enough to kill, but could do harm, a beginning to something more. Face it WE CANNOT afford to guess what the intentions were, this cannot be allowed, deport them now!
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by Bill
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09/15/07 07:33 AM
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Sounds like no evidence huh? Was this a school engineering project? Materials to make a bomb. Extremists websites. Just amazing. Yep, the country is safe...
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by jamilhussein
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09/15/07 02:57 AM
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CAIR and Hamas, another link. Why does the Times continue to get quotes from this group? There are less then 2000 members in the US. Jail then deportation is the only acceptable outcome for both of these men.
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by explosives!
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09/15/07 12:52 AM
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how precious. they're grinning in their mugshots. enjoy law enforcement from here on out kiddos.
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