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PIP loss to hit state
More than insurance is at stake if personal injury protection lapses, experts say.
By JENNIFER LIBERTO, Times Staff Writer
Published September 20, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - The end of Florida's no-fault auto insurance system could undermine the state's backup plan for covering the cost of hurricane damage.
As meetings continued Wednesday on how to extend the mandate of personal injury protection coverage that will otherwise lapse on Oct. 1, there's more at stake than simply auto insurance premiums.
About 30 people representing companies and special interest groups affected by the coming end of PIP coverage, which requires drivers to carry at least $10,000 of medical coverage for accident injuries no matter who is at fault, are inching toward a deal.
Gov. Charlie Crist has said that if a deal is reached, he would consider adding PIP to the agenda of the special session that begins Oct. 3, so lawmakers could ratify it.
But if no deal is reached, insurance experts agree the loss of PIP could go straight to the bottom line of the state's Catastrophe Fund, the pool of money that property insurance companies can tap to pay for hurricane losses.
The reason is this: In the event of big insurance losses, the CAT Fund is replenished by assessing a fee on all liability insurance premiums around the state, including auto, homeowner, fire and other policies. If the PIP mandate disappears then the pool of premium dollars available to be assessed could go down.
The exact impact is unknown because it would depend on how drivers respond to the loss of the PIP mandate. Some may continue to keep the extra coverage while others may carry even less insurance.
Personal injury protection insurance lines account for 7 percent or $2.5-billion of a total of $37-billion a year in assessable premium dollars in Florida. All auto insurance lines account for 40 percent of the state's assessment base or more than $14-billion of the $37-billion assessable base.
If drivers trade personal injury protection policies for other types of coverage like bodily injury or uninsured motorists, the overall impact could be small, catastrophe fund experts say.
But if drivers buy only the minimum auto insurance required by state law after Oct. 1, $10,000 worth of property damage coverage, or if they go uninsured, the impact could be much larger.
The Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles has said they will lose their strong enforcement power to make sure drivers keep their auto insurance, meaning more people could go uninsured without the state knowing.
That is a matter that has occurred to the catastrophe fund experts. Jack Nicholson, a senior fund officer at the state Board of Administration, raised the issue in an e-mail to Michael Carlson, who directs legislative affairs for Chief Financial Officer Alex Sink.
If motorists drop PIP and don't pick up any other type of auto injury insurance that means health insurance premiums could go up, which is not assessable by the catastrophe fund, he wrote.
"The total impact is not clear at this time," Nicholson wrote, "but this is a concern."
State Farm, the state's largest auto insurer, says if PIP disappears, so will 16 percent of State Farm's share of assessable auto dollars, said company spokesman Chris Neal. That's $435-million in assessable dollars that would disappear from the catastrophe fund's assessment base.
"It is sad that because we're going to see such a decrease in auto premiums, which is a good thing for all our customers, that we would now be concerned about assessments, but that's the world we live in," Neal said.
In January, the Legislature tried to cut property insurance premiums by providing property insurers with cheaper back-up insurance through an expanded CAT Fund, which increased the amount the state would be on the hook to pay if big hurricanes hit.
Right now, the catastrophe fund is a bit short on cash and will have only about $5.2-billion in cash by the end of the year but would be liable for up to $28-billion if major storms hit. If the catastrophe fund can't pay, it levies the assessment on all insurance premiums.
The catastrophe fund has the authority to levy as much as 6 percent a year and could make up for the shrunken pool of assessable dollars by simply raising the rate. But that would put more of a financial burden on consumers already paying in the assessment base.
Also in January, the Legislature cut premiums for Citizens Property Insurance Corp. and made it easier for homeowners to get into the state-run insurer, putting even more risk on state's shoulders.
The state's total exposure to risk through Citizens is nearly half a trillion dollars. The Legislature also strengthened the state-run insurer's ability to charge fees in order to pay claims, by expanding its assessment base to match the catastrophe fund's base. That means Citizens could also be impacted by PIP's sunset.
However, Bruce Douglas who is the chairman of the board that runs Citizens, says he doubts PIP's sunset would impact Citizens much, because the expanded assessment base gives Citizens far more access to dollars to pay claims than it had in previous years.
"I don't see it as a problem for Citizens, or the people as a state of Florida," Douglas said.
Jennifer Liberto can be reached at jliberto@sptimes.com or 850224-7263.
[Last modified September 20, 2007, 01:01:57]
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by diane
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09/30/07 09:33 AM
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i do not have health ins., if i got into an car crash and was hurt how would i pay my bills?pip also is good in this case.
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by Josie
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09/27/07 04:53 PM
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I am waiting for this day with anticipation, so that I can ALSO scap PIP!
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by bill
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09/21/07 12:12 PM
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Can't you guys hear the anbulance chasing lawyers licking their chops??-HELLLOOO
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by John
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09/21/07 06:38 AM
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How about making stronger laws to punish those who go without insurance. Let's crucify those people.
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by Lee
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09/20/07 11:59 PM
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Oh, by the way the reason I am canceling PIP is because I carry UM. It provides Much more than the costly $10K PIP
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by lee
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09/20/07 11:55 PM
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What the heck is the state using the PIP money for Hurricanes. As you can see they have grown dependent on extraneous monies to fund other things.. I am scraping PIP when it expires.
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by Sal
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09/20/07 11:23 PM
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It is a sad day when insurance companies and their lobby change our law and run our lives, whether PIP or otherwise. For me, if the insurance companies do not want PIP, then we need it.
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by Marc
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09/20/07 11:19 PM
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The insurance lobby at work with their legislators screwing us Floridians again. So what is new. Re-enact PIP and lets worry about some other issue.
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by russ
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09/20/07 09:22 PM
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Are these insurance companies nuts? They expect us to believe they are out to save us money and then you see them drop 50,000 homeowners and jack up rates after the state says lower them. My PIP costs $13/month and paid. Leave it alone.
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by Lisa B
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09/20/07 07:55 PM
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KEEP THE PIP LAWS! Or we will all suffer later. Higher taxes, health insurance and most importantly, you will no longer be safe on the roads with more and more uninsured moterists.
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by Lisa B
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09/20/07 07:52 PM
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Listen up! If PIP disappears, the domino effect will occur. Higher EVERYTHING and God forbid you get in an auto accident, your SOL!!! Hospitals, Doctors offices,etc will be so over crowded and will not be able to give you the proper care you desirve
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by John
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09/20/07 05:41 PM
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kevin, you are wrong. Around 80% of Floridians have health coverage. PIP is a boondoggle for special interest to rip us off. 38 states do not have this.
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by Samuel
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09/20/07 05:38 PM
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It's the Democratic party that is supporting the drunken spending of local governments. They are led by the idiots Gelber & Geller. Every democrat in the Senate voted against the property tax relief. VOTE OUT ALL DEMOCRATS.
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by Jim
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09/20/07 05:31 PM
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Don't forget that in event of a catastrophic hit, Florida would get huge financial assistance from FEMA. We pay a huge amount into federal taxes & should get relief .
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by John
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09/20/07 05:27 PM
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The state could easily fixed the problem by assessing a fee for CAT fund on life & health insurance too. They would then have way, way more money. If insurance company want the lucrative FL market, they have to play ball.
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by John
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09/20/07 05:21 PM
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PIP is a big boondoggle. It should have died long ago, RIP. Why does 38 other state not have mandatory PIP & enjoy lower insurance rates? Why should I have to buy overlapping coverage to benefit fraud? I can't wait to call & cancel my PIP on Oct 1st.
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by buck
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09/20/07 05:01 PM
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Support keeping PIP. Finally a Governor who cares about the general public.
Educated people know PIP is a must!
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by Loretha
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09/20/07 04:52 PM
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I'm soooo sick of this crap. The state just does whatever the hell it wants and we follow along like blind mice. How in the world or why in the world are we funding Citizens?
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by Gale
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09/20/07 04:38 PM
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If PIP sunsets, then there should be a mandatory bodily injury and um limit put in place. For Florida 100/300/50 would be appropriate. Then let peoople choose other optional coverages. The penalty for no insurance in Florida should get tougher.
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by Brenda
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09/20/07 04:37 PM
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Catastrophe fund short? 5.2 BILLION by the end of the year. Why do every time I read about insurance in Florida - I feel like I'm riding a scam train. Gov. Crist isn't going to do anything for Fl. that hasn't already been done. He's a crook too!
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by Kevin
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09/20/07 04:16 PM
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PIP is necessary for a large % of Florida's citizens. Contact your legislators and implore them to support the extension of PIP in its current format or a bill with minor changes. Any attempt to cap attorney's fees however renders PIP meaningless!
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by Kevin
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09/20/07 04:11 PM
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The insurance industry is a scam, and people are being fleeced legally, how the heck did Florida's legislature get away with tying auto insurance program into property insurance? Shame on the public for not standing up to the industry.
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by John Jay
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09/20/07 03:42 PM
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This is the sorriest Legislature and Governor I have ever seen in my 60 plus years of being a Republican. They are more concerned about saving the Gambling Industry rather than serving their constituents.
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by Larry
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09/20/07 03:21 PM
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Does anyone care about doing the right thing by the "guy on the street." This fiscal mess is the best our elected representatives could do for us?? No one in good conscience should be doing this to the State or people thereof!
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by Joshu Jones
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09/20/07 01:24 PM
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Wow - the State has a shortage of funds everywhere, and yet the GOPs want to dole out tax cuts like drunken sailors.
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by sean
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09/20/07 12:13 PM
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The insurance companies always win in this state. I guess we get what we deserve becasue we keep electing people who care more about speical interest rather than that of state.
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by jack s
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09/20/07 12:04 PM
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Yada..Yada Anyone who thinks their insr prem is going down is naive at best. No matter what deal is reached the Fl. drivers are going to pay more not less. we might as well stop the yackyack and start reaching for our wallet.
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by Berkowitz
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09/20/07 10:32 AM
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What is the benefit to PIP expiring?Injured parties lose, hospitals lose, health insurance premiums go up, bankruptcies go up. I suppose State Farm might save a few bucks though.Congrats to the insurance industry for buying our government! Well done!
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by Donna
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09/20/07 10:27 AM
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Apparently our elected officials have no idea of how to put out any of the economic fires destroying Florida.I wish we could bring in people who would care more about our future than any political in fighting or vote gaining. Florida is in crisis.
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by JT
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09/20/07 10:25 AM
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PIP is a fraud magnet and supports the freeloaders, ambulace chasers and quacks. The state needs to develop a system to enforce carrying insurance or give severe penalties like jail time. Ultimate solution is you can't sue for more ins than you have
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by Joe Consumer
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09/20/07 08:52 AM
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Since the state can't manage it's CAT fund or fix property insurance they want us to keep paying for a BAD coverage on auto insurance, STUPID!!
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by Taxed
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09/20/07 08:46 AM
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Well here is the truth finally it is all about the money to the state not protecting the citizens, assessment is another term for tax, we no longer need this PIP statute as it already costs each person who drives $600/yr premium paying for the fraud
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by Bob
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09/20/07 08:10 AM
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The only ones who are really fighting for the keeping of the PIP are the 1-800-ask-whomever ambulance chasers and their doctors in crime, no more 10k payday for them any more. Too bad, they rode it too long and it is obvious where the scam lies.
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by alan
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09/20/07 07:53 AM
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every day we read just how broke our state is ,,and then another new subdivison ,new roads, new towns.new malls, another millions yankees comming ,wells are dry,,who has been doing the planning and development for the last twenty yrs,,,our concilmen,
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by Matt
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09/20/07 07:14 AM
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Such fearmongering. Private insurance companies shouldn't get to spend taxpayer money to bail us out. There is a conflict of interest, so companies will dole out more money so they can get more taxpayer funding.
No PIP will help stop this.
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