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Cost of a roof to rise 25 percent
Or more. But the tougher building code is supposed to bring insurance discounts.
By IVAN PENN, Times Staff Writer
Published September 22, 2007
Come Oct. 1, the cost for all Florida homeowners to replace their roofs is expected to rise at least 25 percent -- and even more for those who live in coastal communities. The additional charges are the result of a law the state Legislature passed in May that increased building code requirements to strengthen homes against hurricanes. While most experts agree that adding such protection can only help, roofers are complaining the state was too hasty in implementing the new requirements. The change has gotten little attention, and the state's roofing association wanted to delay the law by a year to better understand its implications and educate roofers and the public about the changes. "This is really big," said Jim Carducci, director of technical services for the Florida Roofing, Sheet Metal and Air Conditioning Contractors Association. "There's liability for the consumer as well as the roofer. There's a lot of clarity that needs to be done here." Also lacking clarity are the insurance implications. What is clear is the consumer will have to pay, but what's unclear is how much of a discount insurance companies will give for the improvements. Sen. Bill Posey, who championed the changes in the law and other mitigation efforts, said his only regret is that the state had not taken this step sooner. "We can't bury our heads in the sand," Posey said. "None of it's pretty. ... But the ultimate solution to the property insurance crisis is mitigation." The idea is that if every homeowner is required to meet the tougher standards as their roofs wear out, within about 15 years almost every roof in Florida will have been strengthened. Under the new requirements, the roofer must ensure: - Roof deck attachments and fasteners the connection between plywood sheets and the roof trusses are strengthened or corrected.
- Secondary water barriers (material that covers the joints between plywood sheets on the roof) are installed to reduce leaks if shingles are lost during a storm.
- If the insured value of the home is $300,000 or more and it's in the state's wind-borne debris region -- mostly coastal communities -- roof-to-wall connections must be enhanced, at a cost of up to 15 percent above the re-roofing cost.
John Tillinghast, president of the Pinellas County Roofing Contractors Association, said a 2,500-square-foot roof might cost $6,250 now. With the upgrades after Oct. 1, the same roof might cost some $7,800; in Pinellas, the cost might go to about $9,000. "People are struggling to pay for the roofs as it is," Tillinghast said. "Personally, I think they're getting screwed," said Jim Seely, of Tropical Roofing Inc. in St. Petersburg. "I mean it's a great thing to do. ... But if the regular working man needed a roof and couldn't afford it, but had to do it, he never would be able to afford this." Tillinghast and Carducci said the part of the new law that requires the roof-to-wall connection poses a particular problem. Roofers are not certified to perform such structural work. A general contractor or someone of similar certification must perform it, which could drive up costs even more. "It looks like a nightmare," Tillinghast said. Rodney Fischer, executive director of the Pinellas County Construction Licensing Board, said he agrees with roofers that the logistics of implementing the law need work. "The goal is a really good goal," Fischer said. "There are some problems with the process. ... It's almost as if a person who doesn't understand the process of roofing did this." Fischer has long voiced concern about making the Florida building code tougher without the insurance industry doing its part to substantially reduce homeowners rates. "I think the state of Florida is being manipulated by the insurance industry," Fischer said. "That's my personal opinion." But Posey said the Legislature took several actions against the insurance industry to help bring relief to homeowners. "We did 60 different things to the insurance companies," he said. "We beat them every which way we could beat them. The only thing in the long run ... is to lower the risk of loss." Homeowners qualify for an insurance premium discount if they make the required improvements. But there is no simple formula for the discount. The amount might vary depending on how close the home is to the coast and the surrounding terrain. "Insurers are required to provide discounts to homeowners," said Jonathon Kees, spokesman for the state Office of Insurance Regulation. "There are a lot of variables that play into it. ...We're still in the process of communicating with insurers." The tougher roofing requirement was an amendment to the My Safe Florida Home program legislation. Originally, the state was giving qualified homeowners grants up to $5,000 to make repairs, including strengthening their roofs. But under the new law, the state will require roofs to be upgraded but won't provide cash grants to assist. "On paper, the stuff sounds like a good idea," said Tillinghast, of the Pinellas roofers association. "It doesn't mean everybody can afford it." Ivan Penn covers consumer issues and can be reached at ipenn@sptimes.com or (727) 892-2332. FAST FACTS: Claiming a discount - The state offers free home inspections and grants to eligible homeowners through its My Safe Florida Home program. The program informs homeowners about their home's ability to withstand a storm and recommends improvements. To apply, visit www.mysafefloridahome.com or call toll-free 1-866-513-6734.
- When you hire a contractor to replace your roof, make sure the person is licensed and signs a mitigation discount form for the work completed. The Department of Financial Services says the form can be used to present to insurers.
If you have problems with the insurer or need help claiming your discount, call the department's consumer toll-free hotline at 1-800-342-2762 (in Florida) or 850-413-3132 (out-of-state).
[Last modified September 22, 2007, 10:24:10]
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by Bonnie
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09/27/07 11:24 AM
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How long will it take the insurance CO.to repay me with my so called discount to cover the cost of the increase that I will be charged by the roofing comp.Sealing the joints will decrease the leakage BUT if the wood is explosed the house will leak!
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by Qt
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09/23/07 05:32 PM
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I already know of one person who had a contractor bail on the project already started w/the homeowner's $$. The contractor's excuse? They cannot afford to finish the roof. So they are living under tarps- w/o any hurricane! Home made repairs, thanks!
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by Eugene
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09/23/07 10:30 AM
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I can't believe the stupidity of the state legislature! This just adds insult to injury of those who are trying to afford remaining in Florida. Stay out of our pockets!
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by Judy
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09/23/07 10:26 AM
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Senator Posey should be either committed or jailed...Has anyone checked his finances to see how much of a kick-back he has gotten from the insurance companies to promote this ridiculous law?
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by Judy
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09/23/07 10:24 AM
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I had a traditional shingle roof replaced with 40 yr. guarantee metal. My homeowner's insurance (State Farm)was discounted by $134, about 3% of the total. Considering my roof is now wind and fire resistant, I expected more than 3% discount.
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by john
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09/22/07 10:59 PM
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The problem may be that the insurance co. will not pass all the savings to the homeowners.
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by Dave
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09/22/07 10:36 PM
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I am a very experienced carpenter. Trussing and sheeting a roof are very expensive. We use a hell of alot of steel..And if my guys have to fill the cracks that the expansion clips make, your roof will cost far more than my bid of 2.75 per square foot
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by Jay
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09/22/07 09:38 PM
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Try and find a roof for the cost ok the one in the story. My 900 sqf house roof est. where from 7k to 10k. No average person can afford anything in FL anymore.
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by robert
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09/22/07 08:18 PM
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the new secondary water shield they are talking about on the seams on the plywood DOES NOT APPLY TO NEW COSTRUCTION,so why does it aply to reroofing. read the report on www.frsa.com, lawsuits from contractors will soon follow
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by robert
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09/22/07 08:15 PM
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i am a roofing contractor, there is a 70 percent rate of unemployed roofers in the state of florida, the new secondary water seal they are talking about does not apply to new construction. read the full report on frsa.com website, makes no sense
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by Jo
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09/22/07 08:00 PM
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"...is supposed to bring ins. discounts."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Yeah right!
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by neil
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09/22/07 07:54 PM
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Lets all send some more idiots to tallahassee who will be shills for the insurance industry. We will continue to get screwed until we send better legislators to work for US, not the insurance companies. VOTE people and use your head.
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by John
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09/22/07 05:34 PM
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Listen to all the roofing contractors, they are professional in what they do and give them time to digest this and defer for at least a year, sometimes things are good, sometimes not
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by Jimmy
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09/22/07 03:59 PM
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Who in the hell pushed for this law? It sure wasn't FLA homeowners struggling under the burden of property taxes and insurance! I suspect it was the insurance lobby to mitigate their losses while keeping premiums high. More profits at our expense!
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by Sam
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09/22/07 02:18 PM
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I guess we all need to live in Tanks or fortified Concrete Bunkers to appease the Insurance Companies. It's probably the only way to get a reduction in Rates. It's either that or run all the bought-off Politicians out of office.
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by Gene
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09/22/07 12:42 PM
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Looks like we're getting what we really need -- more laws to tell us what we must do to our own houses. Hey, you cannot even install a new window without a permit. Some still say we live in a "free" country.
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by Dave
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09/22/07 12:34 PM
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I just had a new Tile Roof put on, man it was expensive! add this 25% surchage on top of the new roof, The new roof will be worth more than the house is in todays market!!!!!!!!!
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by Tom
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09/22/07 11:55 AM
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"if the regular working man needed a roof and couldn't afford it,but had to do it,he never would be able to afford this."I think the state of Florida is being manipulated by the insurance industry" MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY I can't afford a new roof now!
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by Cliff
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09/22/07 11:53 AM
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Its hard to fly like a eagle when you play with Tallahassee turkeys
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by JT
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09/22/07 11:17 AM
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Since insurance is such a rip off and it is more important to do things cheap please don't purchase a policy so the rest of us don't have to subsidize you. Why should a new hardened home have to pay as much as a 20 year old piece of junk not kept up?
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by Tarpley
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09/22/07 11:04 AM
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If you can't afford the cost of admission, then don't go in....
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by Mike
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09/22/07 09:38 AM
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I had a firm apply impact resistant film to our windows (the film keeps windows together when broken), but the firm won't sign the affadavit that my ins co requires for a discount because I think the firm is worried about its liability to my ins co.
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by Larry
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09/22/07 09:14 AM
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Last year we had a 120 mph rated Miami-Dade approved metal roof installed to strengthen our home. Our cost was about 5k more than tile.
Nationwide's discount.......0$, prior to dumping us a few months later.
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by Dave
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09/22/07 08:57 AM
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Let's see, property taxes go up, insurance costs go up, roofing costs go up, wages don't go up! What's wrong with these idiots in Tallahassee??
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by tranottoc
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09/22/07 08:56 AM
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My question is " who pushed for this change in the law". I suspect it is the greedy insurance industry who paid off the legislators for these changes. Criminal !
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by Kyle
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09/22/07 08:48 AM
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Will the last remaining person in Florida turn the lights off when they leave.
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by John
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09/22/07 07:57 AM
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I guess we'll be seeing more roofs in need of repair on peoples homes. My 1500 square foot home has gotten quotes from 5-7k. Add another 25% on that and no way will it be getting replaced. Home depot here I come for a bucket of tar.
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by Fred
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09/22/07 07:42 AM
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This just shows how out-of-touch the state is when it comes to the real world. There are flocks of re-roofers laid out right now begging for work. This will only help the insurance and bucket industries.
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by Damian
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09/22/07 07:31 AM
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Your link to mysafefloridahome.com does not work, not does it work if you go outside your website and type it in independently
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by Bill
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09/22/07 07:23 AM
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Wake up people!
"within about 15 years almost every roof in Florida will have been strengthened"? When you increase the cost 25% & make them more unaffordable, within 15 years you'll have a whole bunch more worn out roofs with homemade repairs.
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by cleo
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09/22/07 05:36 AM
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Hello All ! I see it as a win/ win situation for the Homeowner and Insurance company. If there is a Hurricance and roofs are stronger,there will be less replacement work for the Roofers. Sounds like a loss of dollars for the Roofers$$$$$$money
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