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MADD plans to go on patrol for DUIs
Volunteers will look for impaired drivers and notify authorities, not make stops.
By ABBIE VANSICKLE, Times Staff Writer
Published September 29, 2007
Mothers Against Drunk Driving Volunteers will look for impaired drivers and notify authorities, not make stops.
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TAMPA - Had a few drinks before getting behind the wheel?
Think again. That harmless-looking minivan in the rearview mirror might be the neighbors on patrol.
That's how Mothers Against Drunk Driving pitched its latest plan to get impaired drivers off the roads.
Called the Traffic Observation Program, the pilot program is slated to begin in Hillsborough County and may become a statewide initiative, according to Don Murray, Florida's executive director for MADD.
The plan: Recruit 20 volunteers armed with donated cell phones and send them out in the middle of the night to watch for telltale signs of drunk drivers.
MADD has worked closely with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office, so Murray suggested to other MADD members that the pilot program begin here.
Murray envisions a program that will pair up community members who are willing to go through a screening process, including a criminal background check and an interview to ensure that those going out on the streets have proper training and experience.
He wanted to make it clear that volunteers will not be acting like law enforcement.
"This isn't like a vigilante program," he said. "They won't be attempting to stop or in any way interacting with these vehicles. They're basically just observers."
Volunteers will go out in teams. They will drive their own vehicles and take GPS equipment, so they'll be able to find their way through unfamiliar areas for two to four hours of searching, Murray said. They'll be told ahead of time of the sometimes-subtle clues for drunk drivers, such as driving under the speed limit or lingering too long at a green light, Murray said.
"We certainly don't want our observers to be calling erroneous reports in," he said.
If participants spot a suspicious driver, they will jot down the license plate, a vehicle description and a location and notify the Sheriff's Office. It's up to the deputy to check out the vehicle to determine whether an arrest is appropriate, Murray said.
The program was Murray's idea, he said, inspired by worries of what potential budget cuts could do to law enforcement's DUI teams.
"They'll likely lose officers from the road," he said. "We were looking ahead to try to see what our organization can do."
Hillsborough sheriff's Cpl. Stephen Decatur said the program is just a formalized process for what already happens everyday: People call law enforcement when they see something suspicious.
He praised the idea, but he cautioned that it's vital that volunteers don't try to do the work of law enforcement in apprehending and accusing suspects.
"If anybody's overzealous, if they play outside the guidelines, then they're acting above and beyond just being observers," he said. "We want them to do it in a responsible manner, and it looks like the program is set up to do that."
Tampa police Cpl. Jared Douds had much the same reaction. It sounded like a Neighborhood Watch group for the roadways.
"Obviously anything that's going to get drunk drivers off the road, we're interested in," Douds. "That's certainly a positive for everybody."
Abbie VanSickle can be reached at 813-226-3373 or vansickle@sptimes.com
[Last modified September 28, 2007, 22:59:22]
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by Michael
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10/09/07 12:06 AM
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This idea is insane! Just what we need is more victims Of DUI crashes. MADD volunteers are NOT trained defensive drivers like law enforcement officers. Leave the chasing down dui drivers to the trained officials.
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by James
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10/02/07 07:27 AM
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No one has the right to drive while drunk and threaten my family!! Having "a few drinks" doesn't result in a .08 BAC...or impairment. Do some research!! Idiots! I'll be proud to be among the many volunteers. You're right, Richard. Watch your back!
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by John2
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09/30/07 09:45 AM
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The nonsense comments show once again how Pin.Cty is in the dark ages. The DUI laws are way too weak, because "we the people" are for the most part...drunk.
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by Tom
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09/30/07 01:45 AM
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I've been hit three times by drunk divers. Anything that gets them off the road is fine with me.
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by db
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09/29/07 11:14 PM
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Will the police also arrive to cite an 75 year old not using turning signals - making a left turn from the right lane - going 25 in a 45 zone - etc., etc... is this not discriminative enforcement ?
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by Richard
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09/29/07 09:37 PM
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This sounds like the tactics the Russians used to trya and keep people inline. You watch your back because you never know who is loyal to the party and who is not.
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by Mike
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09/29/07 09:31 PM
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Alcoholism is a sickness, whether it's one drink or more than several. How many people have to die before it is realized? So many people, including kids, just have to drink to have a "good" time. Three cheers for MADD.
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by Reader
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09/29/07 08:31 PM
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When I moved to Florida you could legally drink a beer while driving. Now you can't even enjoy a couple drinks in a restaurant without fear of over enforcement. .08 should be raised back to .10. Florida has become a police state. Go away MADD.
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by Karl
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09/29/07 01:29 PM
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Ron, First year law student? Or just a fan of Law and Order? The challenge to probable cause will not go to the citizen who reports the activity but rather to the arresting officer who must develop his/her own probable cause before initiating a stop.
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by bevis
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09/29/07 01:23 PM
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Don't be suprised if some of the "informents" end up dead if they don't remain anonymous. This isn't a game. If someone was tailgating, the front car might think a MADD is trying to get their lisense plate # and retaliate. Just a thought.
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by J. Wilson
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09/29/07 01:08 PM
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A citizen reporting a shadowy figure climbing into a home, through a window is doing the right thing. The responding officer has the obligation to determine if a crime is underway, or if it's just a homeowner who is locked out. Yeah MADD !!
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by Sean
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09/29/07 01:01 PM
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I think I will start following the MADD minivans around and call the 911 every time they linger at a green light while trying to figure our their new fangled GPS or swerve in their lane while dialing their donated cell phone.
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by Crystal
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09/29/07 12:51 PM
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If they really wanted to stop drunk driving they would put the check points where the drivers are not where they are going to be. It is not a surprise where they are. Football games and Ybor for a start.
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by sam
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09/29/07 12:43 PM
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BY WHAT EVER MEANS! GET THE DRUNK DRIVER OFF THE ROAD ASAP. DRUNK DRIVING KILLS AND MAIMS INNOCENT CITIZENS
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by Vinny
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09/29/07 12:42 PM
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MADD is a bloated organization that uses 81% of it funds on administrative costs instead of raising awareness. This new program only highlights that they don't spend money on prevention and awareness but rather work to fight the symptoms only.
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by bob
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09/29/07 11:57 AM
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Great. Officers chasing cars reported by others. Cops have alot of free time already. This should help use it up. Ever wonder why it takes 30 minutes to get an officer to a scene? Madd should open their deep pockets for more officers. not this.
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by SCOTT
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09/29/07 11:11 AM
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PROUD MEMBER OF DRUNKS AGAINST MAD MOTHERS
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by James3rd
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09/29/07 10:48 AM
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Over Zealous police is one thing, Impaired drivers is another. put an end to DUI's
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by Johnny
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09/29/07 10:33 AM
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Great idea. Actually, it would be even better is these groups reported all crime and not just DUI. The only problem here is there won't be enough police to handle the calls.
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by Russ
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09/29/07 10:12 AM
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Sounds like these people are asking for trouble. Some thugs or an easily annoyed person looks in the rearview & sees someone following them & you've got a disaster in the making.
And, I don't like holier-than-thou types. Cops get paid to do this.
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by Ron
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09/29/07 09:44 AM
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U.S. Constitution clearly states the accused shall have the right to confront all witnesses against him in a competent court of jurisdiction, having said that, the remedy of a false accusation, by someone not versed with a Fry protocol , is civil.
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by Jas
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09/29/07 09:43 AM
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Great idea!
1. It is never illegal for a citizen to report a suspected crime.
2. Our police are not 'over zealous' they are mostly restrained and under zealous (provided that you are doing the right thing).
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by John
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09/29/07 09:34 AM
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MADD will not be happy until prohibition is brought back. Growing up I was friends with several kids who had parents in MADD. Those kids were the worst but their parents were too obsessed with MADD to realize the problems their own kids had. Wackos
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by TmpaLawyer
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09/29/07 09:26 AM
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A motion to surpress what? A 911 call from a citizen...reporting an erratic driver?? Not a chance! This is actually a great program and will likely be very effective. I hope they put 100 extra eyes on the road!!
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by JM
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09/29/07 09:06 AM
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Isn't this kind of illegal.What if one of these people has a grudge against someone.Good way to get them in trouble.I am not a supporter of MADD.I think they are a bungh of hippocrits.
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by Diane
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09/29/07 09:05 AM
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Like a Citizen's watch program, they will not be held to the same legal standards as police. They will only report suspicious activity. Police Officers must develop their own Probable Cause for an arrest. Perfectly legal. No challenges available.
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by Kevin
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09/29/07 07:59 AM
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All they would have to do is stake out a bar and follow patrons down the road. I'd bet ten dollars to a doughnut that will be the strategy. if you wanna catch fish you dont hang out in the desert.
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by Bill
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09/29/07 06:40 AM
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This is never going to make it by a Motion to Supress
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by john
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09/29/07 05:40 AM
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Please, have not people better things to do. This will be challenged legally from the beginning. It will be full of problems. Don't we have enough problems with over zealous police.
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