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In defense of his Confederate pride
Nelson Winbush is intent on defending the flag of his grandfather. It's just surprising which flag that is.
By STEPHANIE GARRY, Times Staff Writer
Published October 7, 2007
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Nelson W. Winbush, 78, of Kissimmee stands in front of the Confederate battle flag that was draped over his grandfather's coffin in 1934.
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[Nelson Winbush]
Louis Napoleon Nelson poses with grandson Nelson W. Winbush at the Memphis train station in 1932 before leaving to attend a Confederate reunion celebration.
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KISSIMMEE -- Nelson Winbush rotates a miniature flag holder he keeps on his mantel, imagining how the banners would appear in a Civil War battle.
The Stars and Bars, he explains, looked too much like the Union flag to prevent friendly fire. The Confederacy responded by fashioning the distinctive Southern Cross -- better known as the rebel flag.
Winbush, 78, is a retired assistant principal with a master's degree, a thoughtful man whose world view developed from listening to his grandfather's stories about serving the South in the "War Between the States."
His grandfather's casket was draped with a Confederate flag. His mother pounded out her Confederate heritage on a typewriter. He wears a rebel flag pinned to the collar of his polo shirt.
Winbush is also black.
"You've never seen nothing like me, have you?"
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Winbush's nondescript white brick house near Kissimmee's quaint downtown is cluttered with the mess of a life spent hoarding history.
Under the glass of his coffee table lie family photos, all of smiling black people. On top sits Ebony magazine.
Winbush is retired and a widower who keeps a strict schedule of household chores, family visits and Confederate events. He often eats at Fat Boy's Barbecue, where his Sons of Confederate Veterans camp meets.
Winbush's words could come from the mouth of any white son of a Confederate veteran. They subscribe to a sort of religion about the war, a different version than mainstream America.
The tenets, repeated endlessly by loyalists:
The war was not about slavery. The South had the constitutional right to secede. Confederate soldiers were battling for their homes and their families. President Lincoln was a despot. Most importantly, the victors write the history.
But Winbush has a conceptual canyon to bridge: How can a black man defend a movement that sought to keep his people enslaved?
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Winbush is one of at most a handful of black members of the Sons of Confederate Veterans in the country. He knows skeptics question his story and his sanity.
To win them over, he pulls out his grandfather's pension papers, reunion photos and obituary. He also gives speeches, mostly before white audiences.
Winbush believes the South seceded because the federal government taxed it disproportionately. It was a matter of states' rights, not slavery, which was going extinct as the United States became more industrialized, he says. He denies that President Lincoln freed the slaves, explaining that the Emancipation Proclamation affected only the Confederate states, which were no longer under his authority.
"It was an exercise in rhetoric, that's all," Winbush says.
His views run counter to many historical accounts. Rev. Nelson B. Rivers III, the field operations chief for the NAACP, called Winbush's arguments illogical. Rivers spoke with Winbush by telephone a few years ago, intrigued by his position. Rivers remembers him being loud and sincere, holding fast to his convictions.
"I was courteous and respectful and respectfully disagreed with him," Rivers said. "This is America. He has a right to believe what he wants to."
At one speech, Winbush stood in front of the square battle flag that draped his grandfather's coffin, retelling the stories he has told so many times that the words emerge in identical iterations.
At the end of his talk, he held the microphone to a stereo and played a song by the Rebelaires, with a sorrowful, bluesy rhythm: "You may not believe me, but things was just that way. Black is nothing other than a darker shade of rebel gray."
Once other Confederates recognize that his story is real, they love him. Opponents often attack white Confederates as ignorant or racist. Winbush is harder to dismiss. If nothing else, the naysayers are more willing to listen.
"It kinda wipes out the whole segregation and hate and racism issue," said Christopher Hall, 29, commander of Winbush's SCV camp. "Coming from him, that really can't be an argument."
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Winbush's views were once more widespread, even in the land of theme parks and turnpikes.
Florida was the third state to secede. Its Civil War governor, John Milton, shot himself rather than rejoin the North, telling the Legislature, "Death would be preferable to reunion." Former Gov. Lawton Chiles defended the Confederate flag in 1996 when black lawmakers asked for its removal from the Capitol.
"You can't erase history," Chiles said at the time.
But now neo-Confederates are losing this second war of culture and memory.
Confederate flags are coming down, especially from the tops of Southern statehouses, including Florida's in 2001.
The agrarian Bible Belt has become the Sun Belt, full of northerners with few deep roots in the area. Identification with the South as a region has declined since the World War II era, which united the country with patriotism and the interstate system. Areas of South Florida, for instance, are known better as the sixth borough of New York than part of the Deep South.
High school teachers don't preach the righteousness of the South. And historians, for the most part, agree that the Civil War was about slavery, undermining the standard neo-Confederate argument.
But Confederate loyalists are digging in. Winbush considers the South his homeland. And his family history, because it's rarer than that of white Confederates, is in danger of extinction.
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Slowly, in his deep, rough voice, Winbush tells the story of a young slave from a Tennessee plantation named Louis Napoleon Nelson, who went to war as a teenager with the sons of his master.
"They grew up together," Winbush says.
At first his grandfather cooked and looked out for the others, but later he saw action, fighting with a rifle under the command of Confederate General Nathan Bedford Forrest, a slave trader and plantation owner.
At Shiloh, a two-day battle in 1862 in which more than 23,000 American men were killed or wounded, the Confederate Army needed a chaplain. Louis Nelson couldn't read or write, but he had memorized the King James Bible.
He stayed on as chaplain for the next four campaigns, leading services for both Confederate and Union soldiers, before they headed back to the battlefield.
He also foraged for food. One time, he killed a mule, cut out a quarter and hauled it back to his comrades.
"When you don't have anything else, mule meat tastes pretty good," he would tell his grandson.
Some topics even the loquacious grandfather considered off limits. He wouldn't talk about the Union siege of Vicksburg, a bloody battle that captured an important Mississippi River port and effectively split the South.
After the war, he lived as a free man on the James Oldham plantation for 12 more years. Then he became a plasterer, traveling the South to work on houses.
Over the years, he went to 39 Confederate reunions, wearing a woolly gray uniform that Winbush still has.In photos, he stands next to two white men who accompanied him to soldiers' reunions until they were old men. Through the sepia gleams a dignity earned on the battlefield.
"When he came back, that was storytelling time," Winbush says.
His grandfather died in 1934 at the age of 88. The local paper ran an obituary that called him a "darky." Winbush is proud that his grandfather's death was marked at all.
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Winbush grew up in the house his grandfather built in 1908, a two-story yellow structure with a wraparound porch in Ripley, Tenn. The Oldham plantation, where his grandfather was a slave, provided the wood in recognition of his loyalty to the family.
Winbush and his siblings lived in a family of educators. His grandmother and mother were teachers. He says he first went to school as a baby in a basket.
All three children went to college. Winbush studied biology in hopes of becoming a doctor but didn't have enough money for medical school. He switched to studying physical education.
Winbush moved to Florida in 1955, a year after the U.S. Supreme Court's Brown vs. Board of Education decision mandated school desegregation. Like many around the country, Osceola County schools remained segregated for several more years.
He didn't mind the divide because he felt both black and white students got a better education by not being able to use racial conflict as an excuse. When the superintendent, a friend of his, decided it was time to integrate in the late 1960s, Winbush agreed. The time had come, he thought, when people could accept the change.
Winbush thinks that people will get along if they know each other. He says he never suffered any blatant racism. The small Southern towns he lived in were familiar and accepting.
He remembers the "I Have A Dream" speech that the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. delivered on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. He respects King but disagrees with his reverence for Lincoln.
Winbush wasn't moved by the speech. King was just speaking the truth, he says, but it didn't change the daily reality of blacks.
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Winbush's convictions about the war lay dormant until 1991, when the NAACP began an all-out campaign against the Confederate flag, saying it was a symbol of hatred. It vowed to have it removed from public places by the end of the decade.
Winbush saw it differently, and he was retiring. He no longer worried about what some "Yankee boss" would think.
"I got fed up about all this politically correct mess," he says.
He joined the Sons and started speaking at their events. He twice appeared before the Virginia Legislature to dissuade them from taking down the flag. He collects clippings of newspaper stories written about his speeches. One shows him posing in front of a statute of Nathan Bedford Forrest.
Winbush acknowledges that misuse of the Confederate flag has made it a symbol of hate in some people's eyes. But he says the American flag is just as racist. Troops of color are sent to die disproportionately in American wars, he says, and the Stars and Stripes flew above slave ships.
Rivers, the NAACP official, said people like Winbush need to let go of their family history and admit that all people, even those now dead, are imperfect.
"Just because your grandfather was wrong does not mean you can't break the generational curse and not be wrong too," he says.
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Winbush is the last direct link to his grandfather, someone who heard the stories firsthand and felt the passion.
He feels the legacy of Confederate soldiers like his grandfather won't survive unless the history is passed within families, from one generation to the next.
But it's not easy. Even Winbush's son, a Naval Academy graduate who works for IBM, once suggested Winbush donate his Confederate collection to a museum.
"This is the only way some people will find out what did happen," he said. "The history books leave it out."
Winbush knows he won't be around forever. He only hopes that someone will continue to tell the stories.
Times researchers Carolyn Edds and John Martin contributed to this report. Stephanie Garry can be reached at sgarry@sptimes.com.
[Last modified October 9, 2007, 18:41:02]
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by Stephen
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03/03/08 10:54 PM
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Its people like Mr. Winbush that tell people the truth about the Civil War.It wasnt about slavery and people who think this no nothing about the Civil War. I was taught by my grandfather about the TRUTHof the war not what our text books say at school
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by John
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02/19/08 09:58 PM
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I have heard that if we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it. If we teach the whole history not just what sounds good then we are ALL better for it and can learn form it. Trying to erase a part, is just ignorant. Learn for betterment.
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by Billy Langhenry
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02/01/08 03:26 PM
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My name is billy L. and i love the confederates
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by Stonewall
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01/27/08 07:00 PM
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Deo Vindice Mr. Winbush.
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by Cheyennerose
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01/27/08 04:50 PM
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I now live in the south because I believe the north was wrong. I as Mr. Winbush believe that you are what you are in your heart and soul. I am white and believe in freedom, am racal, and wish for everyone to live in there own space.
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by Rodney
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01/24/08 04:02 PM
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The truth will set us free.....thank you Mr Wimbush for being an honest man that believes in family and honoring ones heritage, even if the rest of the world tries to stop you.
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by BC
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12/27/07 09:02 PM
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Half the high school grads in this country can't find the US on a globe. The cause of the civil war has been condensed into "slavery." Thank God we have brave individuals like Nelson Wimbish to give us all a history lesson.
DEO VINDICE (from Boston)
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by TRENTON
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12/25/07 12:52 PM
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I AM MEMBER OF THE S.C.V.I AM WHITE.I AM NOT RACIST.THE ONLY THING THATIWANT IS FOR THE TRUTH TO COME OUT ABOUT THE WAR FOR SOUTHERN IND THIS WAS NOT A WAR TO KEEP BLACK SLAVES FOR THE SOUTH.IT WAS A WAR TO MAKE ALL IN THE SOUTH SLAVES FORTHE NORTH
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by Ernest
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12/22/07 05:34 PM
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Some one please contact the Library of Congress to arrange for an oral history recording of Mr Wimbish's recollection of his heritage. Great stuff for historians to ponder. God Bless Mr Wimbish's courage. Many blacks fought for the CSA.
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by Frank
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12/17/07 07:10 PM
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God Bless Nelson Wimbish. It takes a real man to stand up for what he believes in so strongly- no matter what race he is. I only wish everyone else in the nation could see that the flag is a sign of heritage, NOT HATE.
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by Cajie
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12/06/07 12:23 PM
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Mr. Nelson Wimbish is so right on, I don't really know what to say to these ignorant posters who just don't get it!
There is so much for them to learn and they can teach themselves as I have and it would behoove them to do so -
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by Mark
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12/06/07 11:57 AM
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Very well spoken. Too bad the only hope for the South is to leave the Union again, for good!
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by Clay
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12/06/07 03:42 AM
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God Bless Mr. Nelson Winbush, Mr. HK Edgerton and all other Black Southern Patriots who are not affraid to speak the truth and stand up for what is right.
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by Hal
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11/29/07 03:50 PM
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It is no big deal that a black man fought for the Confederacy, and was proud to do it. Lots did, and were. I had plenty of ancestors who joined his ancestor to fight for independence from federal coercion. Its sad that the actual history is untold
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by William
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11/20/07 02:57 PM
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I am related to Winbush collaterally. His grandfather Louis is also the grandfather to my cousin living in Ripley. I came upon the connection a few months ago. At first I was shocked at the discovery, but have come to except MY history as it is.
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by Sean
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11/18/07 12:44 PM
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Fantastic story.Freedom transcends race,as Mr Winbush proves.I am a dreamer-I hope that the union will break up one day,just like the Soviets did,the gentle folk of the south,Like Mr Winbush's ancestors would not try to tell the world how to live.
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by diane
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11/10/07 08:08 PM
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I commend Mr Winbush for standing up for what he believes. As a Southerner whose forefathers fought in the Civil War, I believe th Confederate flag is a symbol of our southern heritage, not at all a symbol of hate. It is a part of our history.
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by Zemboo
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10/22/07 12:52 AM
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Mr. Winbush's story is not at all as unique as you imply! The National Association of Constantly Complaining People's campaign against anything pro-Confederate is a relatively recent effort that is smothered in revisionist opinion!
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by Mike
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10/20/07 05:00 AM
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Mr. Winbush is right. Slavery was going to die out no matter who one. The American flag is more racist under the American flag slaves were brougt over, during World War 2 innocent Japanese were put into internment camps.
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by Lee
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10/17/07 03:32 PM
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Wow... it sure is a good thing that racism only existed in the South, and that slavery or cruelty to men of color never occurred in any Northern state before, during, or after the Civil War. EVERYONE--including Mr. Winbush--should be a Northerner!
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by Steve
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10/15/07 04:35 PM
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I'm glad to see the support for Mr. Winbush but I wonder how'd you feel if this "southern patriot" married your daughter. Southern whites enslaved, murdered, raped and beat southern blacks. If you support Mr Winbush Support Equality for all.
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by Greg
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10/13/07 04:30 PM
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God Bless Nelson Winbush!! May we have more individuals like him who will stand up for the truth.
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by Jay
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10/11/07 06:17 PM
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I just don't get the die hards...was it right for slavery to continue in the South? Slavery was horrible-would you want to be a slave? The next response will be that they wanted to be slaves, or were better off as slaves. Thank God the North won.
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by David
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10/11/07 11:29 AM
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To Hank C, It is a fact that blacks served as soldiers carrying guns. Frederick Douglas reported this as fact. I guess you will call him a liar also. I have photos of black confederates at reunions after the war. TRUE history should come out.
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by jan
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10/11/07 09:14 AM
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i think a lot of people in this country need a history lesson. the slaves were not brought over to the us by southerners, nor even americans. the first slave traders that brought back slaves were the Dutch, who brought them back into this country;
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by bisquit
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10/10/07 10:33 PM
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no matter how noble the intention, you on the wrong side. also, you should never speak wrongly or deceptively about abraham lincoln who was honest and good. you still defending that peculiar institution, and most dont want to even hear about it.
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by Margret
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10/10/07 10:12 PM
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This story is beautiful, passionate, and heartfelt, but just that, A STORY. Everyone has the right to respect their history and their family, but all of you who keep calling Northeners "yankees" are just showing (and continuing a cycle) of rascism.
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by Dusty
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10/10/07 05:01 PM
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The prisoner of war camps in the north killed arriving black prisoners in rebel uniforms. Many a black southern man preferred to fight with people they knew all their lives instead of joining an army of strangers.
Look at Gen'l Cleburne and his idea
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by Steve
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10/10/07 02:32 PM
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Thank you, Mr. Winbush. I stand with you as a proud member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans. We must honor and defend the good name of our ancestors.
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by Gifford
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10/10/07 01:20 PM
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God Bless Mr. Winbush. God Bless the Confederacy!
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by Percy
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10/10/07 11:20 AM
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the bottom line is that all the reason are of truth it just depends who you ask. it just matters who has the most influence at the most at that cructial time in history or what the majority will buy into. Slavery was an easy issue to identify with.
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by disco
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10/10/07 03:26 AM
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You need to read the constitution of the confederate states to view the importance of slavery to the south. There is no more an oppressive document in the history of the world. I read mr. nelson stayed a slave 12 years after the civil war.
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by leviathon
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10/10/07 02:10 AM
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There was a black guy back in the sixties who claimed he was a proud member of the Ku Klux Klan too. Indeed there were even some slaves who were undoubtedly loyal to their master. Theres no way I would ever say my dad fought for the slavers.
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by Graymalkin
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10/09/07 11:22 PM
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Our Founding Fathers provided for The People to defend liberty against tyrannical government. Yes, the Constitution WAS violated: by Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln's motive was simply "the preservation of the Union," at the cost of 600,000 lives.
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by Douglas
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10/09/07 11:19 PM
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Northern apologists: Read the Lincoln-Douglas debates to ascertain the true position of the "Great Emancipator" with regards to slavery, and the black race in general. Lincoln was a racist, and one of the world's most brutal tyrants.
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