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Dean to Florida: No hard feelings
The Democratic chairman downplays the state's loss of national delegates.
By JENNIFER LIBERTO, Times Staff Writer
Published October 10, 2007
TALLAHASSEE - On his first public trip back to the Sunshine State since Florida Democrats got punished for scheduling an early primary, Democratic National Committee chairman Howard Dean tried to strike a conciliatory note on Tuesday.
He called the recent upheaval that is poised to make the Florida Democratic primary meaningless a "spat between politicians."
"Do I wish this fight weren't happening? Yes," said Dean, who had driven from Jacksonville to Tallahassee for a $100-per-person fundraiser. "At the end of the day, I think Iraq, health care, education and ethics matter far more than a fight between politicians."
The DNC allows only four states - Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina - to schedule primaries or caucuses before Feb. 5.
As Florida Democrats continue to refuse to change or move their Jan. 29 primary set by the Legislature this year, the DNC, following Dean's leadership, has promised to yank the state's 210 delegates from the national convention.
On Tuesday, Michigan became the latest to feel such wrath for moving up its primary, as presidential candidates Barack Obama, John Edwards, Bill Richardson and Joe Biden withdrew from that state's Jan. 15 presidential primary, leaving front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton to sweep the state. Candidates can't withdraw from Florida's primary without taking themselves off the November ballot as well.
While he stressed that the "fight between politicians" would be a distant memory, Dean was unapologetic about Florida's current primary debacle.
"Our argument is that everybody knew what the rules were going in. But one way or another, when the votes really count, Floridians' votes are going to count," said Dean, who stood beside House Minority Leader Dan Gelber in a sign of solidarity.
It can't get more awkward for Florida Democrats.
While Sen. Bill Nelson has sued the DNC and state Senate Minority Leader Steve Geller has said he intends to sue the four primary states, all the leading presidential candidates have so far made good on a pledge to early primary states not to campaign in Florida until after Jan. 29 (although they can still raise money in Florida).
The full effect of what Dean passed off as a "blip" may come to pass later this month. Local Democrats will convene a state convention that lacks a single big-name presidential contender mere days after all the major Republican presidential candidates have descended upon Orlando for a state convention and nationally televised debate.
However, Dean disassociated the DNC from the candidates' pledge to avoid Florida, saying "what the candidates do is their business."
"Floridians, despite the fact that they have strong feelings about this issue, as Dan (Gelber) said, are Americans, too, and they want a Democratic president," said Dean.
Earlier in the day, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said in a round-table discussion with reporters in Washington that the Democratic National Committee can try to enforce its rules, but the party's authority essentially ends when the convention begins.
"The reality is if you want to know if Florida is going to be seated, ask the Democratic nominee as soon as one emerges," Pelosi said.
Dean agreed.
"At the end of the day, the nominee will make a decision, essentially about who gets seated," Dean agreed.
Dean stressed that he doesn't think the spat will cost votes in November, stressing that Florida Democrats will focus on national issues.
Strikingly missing was State Party chairwoman Karen Thurman, named as a host of the fundraiser, who backed out because of a last-minute engagement, Dean said.
State party spokesman Mark Bubriski said Thurman never officially confirmed her attendance and she had a conflict.
Staff writer Wes Allison contributed to this report.
[Last modified October 9, 2007, 23:46:10]
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by John
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02/01/08 12:55 PM
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Since our votes count ZERO that is exactly what we should all donate to any candidates cause. Cut their campaign contributions and they may change their minds.
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by rashad
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01/25/08 01:01 PM
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It seems the delegates from other states will decide whether FL delegates will get seated.
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by Jenny
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10/12/07 12:52 AM
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If Fl. delegates will be disregarded, there is not sense in voting in Jan or even in November. Sorry Hillary. I have been a faithful democrat, but too upset at this time. It is nice, they don't care about our votes, but they want our money. No way
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by Edna
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10/11/07 03:43 PM
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Heath: Blame the DNC, not the FL Dem. Party. It's the DNC's CHOICE to strip away our delegates. All the FL Dems did was stick 2 the primary date set by the legislature, to ensure the highest turnout possible for ALL the important issues on the ballot
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by Edna
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10/11/07 03:41 PM
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Bill: I pray every day that Gore will run. So I don't know if you were being sarcastic or serious, but Gore running would be the best thing that ever happened to the Dem. Party, the country, & the planet.
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by JJ
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10/11/07 01:48 AM
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What a bunch of idiots disenfranchising Floridians. I will not be voting for any of these chicken candidates that are boycotting us. They would be wise to not ever come back to Florida. We don't want you here, plain & simple.
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by Bill
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10/10/07 07:15 PM
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want to see the candidates abandon that "pledge" fast?
Just put Al Gore's name on that ballot and watch how fast every one of them is back full time in Florida!
Not ONE of them would DARE to risk losing the Florida Primary to Al Gore
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by Edna
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10/10/07 12:46 PM
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P.S.! Perhaps the reality of the sitch will finally hit Dean when the GENERAL election comes up and he realizes he has dissed two huge, diverse states, including the massive SWING state of Florida. What a disaster Dean is for my beloved Dem. Party!!!
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by Edna
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10/10/07 12:44 PM
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The more Dean talks, the more infuriated this Democrat gets! If he really thinks the issues are more important than this "spat", then don't take away the voice of 4 million voters to pick the candidate whom they feel best advances our agenda. omg.
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by Jack
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10/10/07 12:02 PM
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The rules were clear. You break them at your own risk. You don't like the unishment, too
bad. Without rules you have anarchy, chaos.
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by Sam
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10/10/07 11:54 AM
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Of all the worst times for Howard Dean to disavow Florida..after all the embarassment the Bush bothers caused us he is adding insult to injury. I think Florida should change the date, Sorry but too much is at stake.
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by Tammy
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10/10/07 11:47 AM
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Who is Dean to say "No hard feelings" and then still deny our votes! I have VERY hard feelings about betrayal from my own party... at least with the GOP we can expect them to ignore Florida Democrats. Count the Primary or do not ask for November!
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by Frank
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10/10/07 11:35 AM
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This is the DNC's way of telling you that they want Hillary to get elected and no one else matters.
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by Robert
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10/10/07 11:11 AM
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DNC was suppose to be for the people and I guess their not. I say lets get rid of all of the current politicians (D's and R's) and start over maybe the people might be able to get the country back. I'm ready to move somewhere else without politics.
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by Heath
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10/10/07 11:07 AM
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What's wrong with the Florida Democrat Leadership? They have the choice of moving the primary back a measley 8 days, or disenfranchising every Democratic voter in Florida--and they choose to throw all of our votes away?!?!
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by kevin
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10/10/07 10:19 AM
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Dean needs to keep up the pressure. It's not about narrow minded Florida. It's about the big picture. Florida state Democratic party leaders can't even do a good job of winning inside the state 2003, 2004, 2006. Continue fixing Florida FIRST and now
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by Dawn
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10/10/07 10:06 AM
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So they finally admit they have stripped us of our votes over their own egos. Dean may think there are no hard feelings, but he ought to talk to those of us this impacts. We feel differently. Take their temper tantrums out of my vote.
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by Kevin
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10/10/07 09:36 AM
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Florida to Dean: Your boycott is a mockery of our voters. Our closed primary system is a failure that needs to be discarded. Good luck in 2008.
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by Issywise
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10/10/07 08:50 AM
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To Dean, it's a "spat between politicians." Voter aren't involved. Their voided votes are just collateral damage. To Dean, the process isn't about voters choosing a candidate but the party bosses staying in control. Get laws so every vote is counted
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by Rob
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10/10/07 06:42 AM
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Dean should have been tarred, feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail. This lifelong Democrat will vote for a Republican president for the first time if the boycott of Florida sticks.
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by Ann
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10/10/07 06:37 AM
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The DNC apparently doesn't want its best candidate on the ballot. Why cater to four relatively smaller states when everyone else knows that Florida is a swing state?
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by Russ
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10/10/07 03:08 AM
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They continue to ask for our money but not our delegates. Floridians will have NO say in selecting who will represent the Democratic party. Right now our votes really DON'T count when it's most important to select the right candidate!
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by Julie
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10/10/07 01:26 AM
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Get out of our state, Howard Dean! Shame on you, Dan Gelber for joining this maniac on a stage. I am so over politics...every time I get a fund-raising plea from the DNC I reply with invective that cannot be printed here! It rhymes with "shoe too"!
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