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Signs were normal, boot camp RN says
Nurse thought the ailing teenager was malingering, she testifies.
By ABBIE VANSICKLE
Published October 10, 2007
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Former boot camp nurse Kristin Schmidt, left, is asked if she can continue to testify by her attorney, Ashley Benedik. She is one of eight boot camp employees charged with aggravated manslaughter in the 2006 death of Martin Lee Anderson, 14.
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PANAMA CITY - Martin Lee Anderson told the nurse he couldn't breathe, that he couldn't run anymore.
Still, she stood by, watching in her white lab coat, hands on her hips.
Kristin Schmidt did so because the 14-year-old's vital signs were normal, his words the only evidence of any crisis, she testified Tuesday. And in boot camp, she said, talk wasn't enough.
The registered nurse assumed he was malingering, she said.
"In the boot camp, you can't just stop activities because of words," said Schmidt, 54. "You have to look for signs and symptoms, or the boot camp would not have existed."
Schmidt testified along with three former drill instructors Tuesday in the trial of eight boot camp employees accused of killing Anderson. It was the fifth day of the trial, which is expected to last through the week.
Schmidt, Charles Helms Jr., Raymond Hauck, Patrick Garrett, Henry Dickens, Charles Enfinger, Henry McFadden Jr. and Joseph Walsh face charges of aggravated manslaughter of a child, which carries a maximum of 30 years in prison.
The boot camp case garnered national attention after the release of a videotape that showed guards striking the boy. In that video, Schmidt stood out.
Wearing a white suit, she stood out in the courtroom, too.
She testified that she thought the teen was simply faking to get out of finishing the required 11/2-mile run around the boot camp yard. She'd checked him earlier that day, and the only medical concern she had was a hangnail on his finger.
When she heard there was a problem, she went out to the boot camp yard.
She said she listened to his lungs and checked his pulse. Both were normal.
"I asked him, 'What makes you think you can't breathe?'" she recalled. "He said, 'I can't breathe.'"
She turned to Enfinger.
"I think I was letting Enfinger know that I couldn't see anything physically wrong with him," she said. "It looked like malingering."
It wasn't until the teen was lying motionless in the boot camp yard that Schmidt believed there was a serious problem and requested 911.
Early the next morning, she got a call that Anderson had died.
She said she went into her own son's bedroom, and looking at him, thought of Anderson's mother.
"I knew she wasn't going to see her son anymore, and I didn't know why," Schmidt said. On the witness stand, the nurse started to cry.
In cross examination, testimony was tense. Schmidt repeatedly said she couldn't understand the questions. It became such an issue that Circuit Judge Michael Overstreet asked the jury to leave the room while attorneys could consult on the matter. Eventually, the nurse agreed to continue.
Anderson's mother, Gina Jones, watched much of the nurse's testimony, but she left the courtroom during the video.
Asked what she thought, Jones said only, "No ma'am, not right now. Thank you."
Jurors also heard from Helms, Hauck and Garrett.
The drill instructors all said ammonia capsules, which were used on Anderson, had been used at the camp for years. None was aware of any injuries from them, but all agreed no one ever asked permission from the Department of Juvenile Justice to use the capsules to determine whether teens were faking illness.
"So in all the years that this ammonia's been used, going back to 1994, correct? And the way that you use it, you never went to the DJJ to say, 'Is this okay? Can we use it the way we're using it?'" asked Assistant State Attorney Mike Sinacore.
"Yes, sir, that's correct," Helms said.
Sinacore pressed Helms on his treatment of the teen. Even as Anderson's body went limp, Helms continued to apply ammonia to the teen's nose, while covering his mouth, Helms testified.
"What did Martin Anderson have to do to extricate himself from this situation?" Sinacore said.
"At any time he could have walked, got up, walked to finish the run, made some communication with somebody that he could not walk anymore," Helms said.
At 10:30 a.m., jurors heard from Hauck, 49, who was third-in-command at the camp and trained others in use of force techniques. He said he didn't think ammonia capsules could harm anyone.
"To my knowledge and experience, ammonia capsules are pretty much harmless," he said.
When the teen became unresponsive, Hauck had no idea what was wrong, he said.
"It scared me to death," he said.
Garrett, 30, was supervising the yard when the teen collapsed. He said Anderson gave mixed signals, acting as though he couldn't control his body one moment, fighting back the next.
"He seemed like he would just lay there limp and, all of a sudden, he would just jerk," Garrett said. "It was extremely confusing, what was going on."
His attorney, Robert Sombathy, asked Garrett if he has any regrets.
"Is there anything you would have done differently?" Sombathy asked.
Garrett answered slowly, his voice soft: "Everything."
Abbie VanSickle can be reached at vansickle@sptimes.com or 813-226-3373.
[Last modified October 10, 2007, 00:00:55]
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by 1JBE
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10/11/07 03:05 PM
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This is a RN who is suppose to report abuse even if she only suspect it. She does not have to agree with her employer to report abuse. She no longer need to wear the title RN and I hope she has been reported for abuse.
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by Tom
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10/11/07 09:18 AM
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con't - they must want to change. Most will submit while they go through the attempted forced change, only to return to old bad habits. Parents should try to reach out to their children with love and understanding and maybe they will change on thei
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by Tom
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10/11/07 09:15 AM
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I read where someone refered to these children as inmates. These are trouble youths, not inmates. I disagree with this boot camp thing. I am a former member of the USAF, attend boot camp, but I volunteered. You can not force change, con't
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by Deborah
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10/11/07 01:06 AM
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Everyone is expected to go along with the group. When you speak up, you are no longer part of the group, sad but true! RN'S know AMMONIA can kill when administered in that manner YET SHE DID NOTHING! TOO MANY PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWERS,AFRAID TO BE LEADERS
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by Kelly
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10/10/07 04:50 PM
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For those who called him a thug- he was there for stealing his grandmothers car. The family pressed charges to teach him a lesson. Many teenagers take their parents w/o permission and are not thugs. He was a kid they didn't want to lose his way
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by HOLLY
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10/10/07 04:45 PM
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They shouldnt go to jail. They did nothing wrong :)
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by john
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10/10/07 01:39 PM
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you go do these peoples jobs for a week and you will find out about these inmates. you cannot take the word of and inmate, thats just the way it is.
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by Huh?
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10/10/07 12:09 PM
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I find it amazing that even before this happened training given to many on defusing angry kids was about calming them down, but these people- with some of the angriest kids- go completely against all that training.
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by Y
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10/10/07 12:06 PM
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"...communication with somebody that he could not walk anymore." Umm, wasn't that EXACTLY what he did before he was beaten? Fighting? Perhaps he was scared? I cannot stand when a professional says they do not understand questions on the stand!
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by Terri
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10/10/07 11:27 AM
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This is yet another case of guards using their position to harm someone. These guards and the nurse need to answer for what they have done and be sentenced accordingly. If it was someone on the street they would be sent to prison.
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by Cat
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10/10/07 10:45 AM
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They are lying, there had to be some kind of symptoms,perhaps rolling of eyes. Just looking at his entire body and the way he moves tell me alot and these people suppose to be experienced. Please
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by Catherine
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10/10/07 10:15 AM
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The boy said he could not breathe, and Helms applied ammonia under the boy's nose with his hand covering his mouth!? He smothered him!!
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by ex bernarde
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10/10/07 10:11 AM
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What does OJ simpson have to do with this. OJ simpson was guilty
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by G
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10/10/07 10:01 AM
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LOCK THEM ALL UP FOR LIFE!
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by Larry
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10/10/07 09:59 AM
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MURDERERS AND LIARS - who will likely get a pass, a slap on the wrist, from the cracker jury seated in BIGOT County.
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by Kay
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10/10/07 09:10 AM
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Of course they are going to say nothing was wrong with him, they know they would go to jail. Each one of them should have the same punishment as this young man,then see if they say ammonia is harmless; that is if their still alive to speak.
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by Joe
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10/10/07 09:05 AM
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They were doing their job and now they are being punished. If anyone should get charged with murder is should be the parents and NAACP. O.J. WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY.
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by Joe
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10/10/07 09:05 AM
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force can be used to subdue someone and discipline them but what these people did was wrong. they crossed the line BIG TIME. they should go to jail and the family should not settle any lawsuits they have upcoming.
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by Linda
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10/10/07 09:01 AM
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Excuse me Mr. Helms, But when the boy said,"I CAN'T BREATHE"wasn't that some type of red flag for you people to understand that he couldn't finish the run? Mr. Garrett having said you would have done "EVERYTHING different" What are we to think now?
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by Kim
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10/10/07 08:57 AM
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Its a shame when every tradegy has to be race related. These peple in charge are stupid and guilty! But I don't think he was targeted because he was black! They should go to jail for killing a child no matter what his race or theirs!
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by Ben
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10/10/07 08:55 AM
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Bernard, I'm not quite sure I understand your reasoning. OJ was guilty and these guys are guilty. What was the atrocity committed against OJ? These people are guilty and should be sentenced to the max. OJ was guilty and is running around free.
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by Bill
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10/10/07 08:48 AM
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When this generation of hoodlums and thugs start running this country in the next 30-50 years, anarchy will be the order of the day. People will wonder how it got that way. You people have rectal cranial reversal. YOU CAN'T LET BAD KIDS GET CONTROL.
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by JA
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10/10/07 08:30 AM
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No excuses - nursie poo - if someone tells you he can't breath you should act on it. You deserve what you get. All the guards involved deserve 30 years in prison - this poor boy and his familt desrve justice!!!
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by Fran
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10/10/07 08:30 AM
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It's nice that we have trials and everything...but at the end of the day these Guards murdered a child, It's on video..there's no escaping "that" fact!
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by kbd
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10/10/07 08:26 AM
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We have all seen the tape and we all know what happened. The kid was beaten and suffocated by ammonia caps.A conviction for all who were there is required and the price their lives should be paid. My sympathies to all families involved.
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by Tom
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10/10/07 08:24 AM
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Those redneck jurors up there will get the wool pulled over their eyes im sure but the video speaks for itself. Checked his vital signs? I sure didnt see that on the tape of the kid getting beaten. There has to be some liability.
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by mike
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10/10/07 08:12 AM
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furthermore; enuff of this racial crap, those of you who keep using that as an excuse are the only ones fueling that fire. this had nothing to do with that kid being black or white or purple when will you liberals get that through your skull!!!!!!!!
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by David
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10/10/07 08:10 AM
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I hope these people get the maximum sentence they can get. Their tears mean nothing now.
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by mike
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10/10/07 08:09 AM
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in continuing: these kids are not there for helping people across the street, ok get it thru your heads, they r criminals who were lucky to be afforded a chance to complete a program that's proven to be effective. and yes discipline has 2b tuff!!!!!
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by Linda
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10/10/07 08:08 AM
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I don't believe any person as young as Anderson could have possibly done something to deserve this kind of fate.
And I don't condone violence of any kind. If you perform violence on somebody and kill them, I believe what goes around comes around.
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by mike
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10/10/07 08:06 AM
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you peoaple have no idea what it takes to run a prison or any other detention facility with these little thugs. sure it is very unfortunate that an incident this extreme occurred, but that doesn't mean we should take a knee jerk reaction.
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by Diane
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10/10/07 07:41 AM
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Please do not feel sympathy or compassion for those on trial. They made their decisions, they should now live with the fact they killed someone. They failed to have compassion and sympathy and now someone's child is dead.
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by KIm
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10/10/07 07:33 AM
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They were demanding and violent with kids. Now look at these adults, they aren't so tough. What a show they are putting on. Boo Hoo.
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by KIm
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10/10/07 07:26 AM
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This trail is so important and yet the writers give us so little. Vansickle. Your cross examination of Schmidt is ended so sudddenly?
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by joanne
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10/10/07 07:09 AM
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hopefully this jury will convict 30 years to life. this young man deserves justice and so does his family. they were beating this boy to death now they need to pay the price. there is no reason for that kind of punishment in a boot camp death no no n
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