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A major stub hubbub
It may take Hannah Montana to get concert ticket problems fixed.
By SEAN DALY, Times Pop Music Critic
Published October 14, 2007
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Jennifer Anderson, 34, of St. Petersburg, laughs with her daughter Chrissy Anderson, 9, while in Chrissy's room. Anderson has had difficulty trying to get tickets for her daughter to go to the November 19 Hannah Montana Concert at the St. Pete Times Forum.
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Talk about pressure. As Jennifer Anderson was trying to buy tickets to the hottest concert of the year - a Nov. 19 show at the St. Pete Times Forum starring a teen idol beloved by the Disney Channel set - her daughter was redecorating her bedroom to celebrate that very purchase.
"One side of Chrissy's room was going to be all Hannah Montana, the other side was going to be all Miley Cyrus," says the 34-year-old St. Petersburg mom. She chuckles at her 9-year-old's obsession with the show starring Cyrus as a fictional pop star. "She was sooo excited."
But as Chrissy was creating Hannah Montana heaven, her mother - along with thousands of other parents around the country - was entering concert ticket hell.
Anderson, who hasn't bought a hot ticket in a long time, learned that the Internet has made the process a lot tougher than camping out all night at a box office. No longer are buyers competing only with fellow fans. Now ticket brokers are gobbling up large blocks of concert tickets in mere seconds, and then reselling them for many times the face value.
Plus, far fewertickets are available to the average fan these days, as concert venues, fan clubs, promoters and sponsors claim a hefty share of tickets before general sales even begin.
So despite having three people - her mother, a friend and herself - trying to buy tickets from Ticketmaster via phone, computer and the mall, Jennifer Anderson came up empty on Sept. 15.
Tickets went on sale to the general public at 10 a.m. They were gone in 14 minutes.
In fact, the entire 54-date tour has sold out. Every seat. Gone.
A few days later, the Internet was flooded with Hannah Montana tickets. Face value for the most expensive seat was $68.75. But online, the average asking price was $214, with some sellers seeking as much as $4,572 per seat.
Normally, fans of perennial hot acts such as U2 or Bruce Springsteen are the ones complaining about the harsh realities of the concert-ticket business. But industry insiders believe a 14-year-old TV star in a silly blond wig is the one who will change the way concert tickets are bought and sold.
It's one thing to shut out a fan of Bono or the Boss. But hell hath no fury like a mommy scorned.
Little Chrissy Anderson was a great sport about the whole thing. "Mommy, tickets are too expensive. You don't have to take me to the concert," she said.
"That," her mom declares, "made me even more determined to get them."
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Teeny-pop heartthrobs Shaun Cassidy and Leif Garrett stirred up the '70s. Boy bands such as New Kids on the Block, the Backstreet Boys and 'N Sync whipped the kids into a frenzy in the '80s and '90s.
And now, in the '00s, there's Miley Cyrus, whose average ticket resale price is remarkably greater than such popular rock acts as the Police $209, Beyonce ($193) and Justin Timberlake ($182).
"We haven't had a youth-oriented tour of this magnitude since the secondary market has been active," says Ray Waddell, senior editor of touring at Billboard magazine. "It's a perfect storm."
Storm is a good word for it.
The tour, which starts Thursday in St. Louis, has shed harsh light on the concert-ticketing industry. It has also inspired anger, tears and lawsuits.
"You have uneducated ticket buyers ... awakened by the modern-day realities of the business," says Waddell about the angry parents. "You also have ticket brokers who have an unfair advantage," using computer software to buy online tickets faster than normal buyers.
After hundreds of complaints from parents, Arkansas, Missouri and Pennsylvania launched state investigations into various online broker sites.
The Florida Attorney General's Office has received 19 complaints about the Hannah Montana imbroglio so far. There's no formal investigation yet, but the office said it is reviewing the information it has received.
It's not at all clear that a law has been broken. In Florida, as long as online ticket brokers post an array of disclosure rules, they are essentially allowed to charge hefty prices.
Ticketmaster, the primary seller of Hannah Montana tickets, has promised to sue a company that makes software allowing online brokers to purchase tickets with lightning speed.
Gary Adler, general counsel to the National Association of Ticket Brokers, says his industry is being unfairly targeted. What's wrong, he asks, with a broker hiring 10 people to sit in an office and buy tickets online? "That's a moral and ethical gray area," he says.
Ticket brokers say the real problem starts with ticket distribution, arguing that most tickets go to fan clubs, venues and various sponsors. In many cases, "less than a third of the house tickets are sold to the general public," says Adler.
Sean Henry, executive vice president of the St. Pete Times Forum, says that the Miley Cyrus Official Fan Club controlled a little less than 30 percent of the tickets, which the fan site sold to members before the general ticket sale began. (But membership was no guarantee; the Andersons paid $30 to join the fan club and still got shut out.)
Presale tickets were also set aside for Tampa Bay Lightning season-ticket holders, tour sponsors and the media.
"One of the best ways to make sure you get the tickets you want," says Henry, "is to have a ticket plan with us." Henry says that "every single season-ticket holder" who wanted Hannah Montana tickets got them.
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Long after Miley Cyrus leaves the Forum stage Nov. 19, the brouhaha will continue.
"I think something will come of this," says Billboard's Waddell. "The primary (ticket) industry is sick of this. Eventually there will be some regulation. I think you'll see something where everybody who buys a ticket will have to use it." Somewhat like airline tickets.
Adler, of the ticket brokers association, thinks a better solution might be to sell tickets solely in person, from a box office. As in those days of the all-night ticket lines."Right now, anyone who has a ticket and a computer and a cell phone becomes a broker," he says.
As for Jennifer and Chrissy Anderson, their tale has an ending as happy as anything you'll see on an episode of Hannah Montana. The determined mom pleaded her case on the Web site Craigslist.com, and was able to buy four upper-deck seats for $230 total, hardly more than the face value.
There will be so much screaming, they won't be able to hear a thing, the mom figures. "But that's okay. At least Chrissy can look at her."
Sean Daly can be reached at sdaly@sptimes.com or (727) 893-8467. His Pop Life blog is at blogs.tampabay.com/popmusic.
[Last modified October 14, 2007, 01:10:38]
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by Mike
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10/20/07 09:34 AM
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It's always been like this, it's just now the internet is shedding light on the problem. I've waited in line all night not to get a ticket I wanted thanks to the 'lottery system'. Internet or no internet the true fans will always get the shaft.
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by Lynn
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10/20/07 08:48 AM
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Refuse to buy. If enough people refused to buy at such rediculous prices, how long do you think it would be before prices descended from the stratusphere?
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by nana
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10/18/07 12:14 PM
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"WOW" thats so touching how a mom would go through so much trouble to get her daughter some tickets to a concert to go see a pop star thats loved by many to make her daughter so happy thats just too sweet i would do something like that for my daughter
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by Jim
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10/16/07 04:07 AM
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The ticket distribution policy has to be revealed. If only a certain percentage goes to retail consumers and so many more go side door through promotors, venue and various sponsors and inside connection, there's a problem. That's where scalpers prey!
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by Paul
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10/15/07 02:20 PM
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Welcome to the real world, she is better off not going most of these teen stars end up as disappointments as they get older. Male or female.
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by Carla
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10/15/07 01:56 PM
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I don't know anyone who was able to get tickets through the fan club. When we realized that us Moms were the ones upset and the girls had already gotten over the disappointment, we decided to skip the concert and plan a fun night for the kids instead
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by Mike
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10/15/07 01:49 PM
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Just loving the "We are the victim" parents here. Welcome to free-market capitalism. Don't blame people making legitimate use of the system, blame the spoiled kids parents willing to pay any price for their children.
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by just me
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10/15/07 10:09 AM
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It should be against the law to sell ANY ticket more then face value. If they claim its a "handling fee" then the handling fee should not be more then say.. 10% of the value of the ticket. I agree its like legalized scalping. This HAS TO STOP!
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by Paul
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10/15/07 09:45 AM
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I'm no rookie when it comes to concert tickets, and what I see here is fraudulent. Unfortunately, my 8-year-old daughter has been talking about this concert for 6 months. (We go to our share of musuems and zoos, so save the wisdom). This is criminal.
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by mark
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10/14/07 11:05 PM
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traumatic for youngns, but the speculators/middlemen only flourish where the foolish are willing to pay. If they have to eat enough of their get-rich-quick scams, they'll quit. look at local real estate.
thanks
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by Bob
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10/14/07 07:14 PM
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There's got to be some kind of regulation, this is ridiculous! We wanted to take our daughters to this show, but it's impossible, unless you're rich! It should not be too much to ask to get tickets to a Disney concert.
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by Matt
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10/14/07 03:55 PM
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Pass a law that buying tickets for an event you don't plan to attend is fraud.
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by Robo
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10/14/07 03:32 PM
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Anybody who suggests the museum as a replacememnt for a Hannah Montana concert needs to remember what it's like to be young (and not a nerd).
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by Betsy
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10/14/07 01:19 PM
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My 8 year old lost her father to cancer this past summer. She went through so much, I wanted to surpise her. I can't afford anything more than the cheap seats. Thank you to those who bought up the tickets for profit, I hope you sleep well at night
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by Cheryl
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10/14/07 01:12 PM
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Ticket brokers have become legalized ticket scalpers and the price has nothing to do with "supply and demand".
They are just high tech criminals preying on the young.
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by John
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10/14/07 11:45 AM
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I remember taking our daughter to the Madonna concert many years ago. It wasn't worth the money and our daughter didn't enjoy it . Spend your money on something worthwhile like the museum or zoo.
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by Greg
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10/14/07 08:47 AM
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Supply and demand...nothing wrong with this at all...nobody has a RIGHT to buy these tickets...everyone has the opportunity to buy them...just what price are you willing to pay? Take the kid to MOSI for $10...they will actually learn something.
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by HCB
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10/14/07 05:01 AM
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It's a good thing. Get all those little kids ready to buy tickets to NFL, Disney and other opportunities to spend a lot of money so they can spend a lot of time with a crowd doing something completely meaningless.
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by Tom
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10/14/07 04:08 AM
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More material girl crap. She isn't worth the time at any price. Take your daughter to the museum.
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