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Campaign in Fla.? They don't dare
By ADAM C. SMITH, Times Political Editor
Published October 16, 2007
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You won't see this in Florida: Hillary Rodham Clinton, above, greets area residents at Hackleboro Orchard in Canterbury, N.H., on Thursday, while Barack Obama, below, shakes hands after a visit to Mack's Apples in Londonderry, N.H. Neither Democrat is campaigning in Florida.
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PLYMOUTH, N.H. - Listen up, readers. I have a dire warning. Something sinister and mysterious is terrorizing the Democratic presidential candidates. I'm afraid I can't yet explain its dark power, but I'm working on it.
The candidates are so terrified of drawing the wrath of Democrats in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, they won't dare kiss a baby, give a speech or talk to a voter anywhere in Florida, except in closed-door, fundraising receptions. So I went to the heart of darkness - New Hampshire - hunting for answers in a place where, legend has it, candidates and citizens talk easily to one another. But Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign made it clear the terror is worse than I imagined. I wanted to ask Clinton a couple of questions: about the national catastrophe insurance fund, offshore drilling, maybe Florida's primary. I might as well have asked to show the former first lady my anthrax spores. "She's only doing local press," Mo Elleithee, a Clinton adviser, explained by phone. "And I'm local press from Florida," I said. "But now I'm in New Hampshire, so I'm legal to talk to." "But you're still from Florida," Elleithee sighed. "A tiger can't change its stripes."
I'm not naive. I understand why candidates might welcome a pledge not to campaign in any state that violated the national party rules by holding a primary earlier than Feb. 5.
For the cash-strapped underdogs - Joe Biden, Chris Dodd, John Edwards and Bill Richardson - signing the pledge was a nice excuse to avoid a state they can't afford to campaign in anyway. They need to concentrate on staying alive in those earliest contests.
Barack Obama and Clinton, however, have the money to compete in America's biggest battleground state. Yet they're scared even to talk to Florida reporters.
"I'm not allowed to talk to the press!" Illinois Sen. Obama shouted back at me recently after I tried shouting from 100 feet away as he left a $1,000-per-person fundraiser in St. Petersburg.
"Isn't it up to you?!"
Obama: "Nope!"
"Aren't you the guy trying to lead the country?!"
Obama: "I signed a pledge!"
Skipping convention
None of the candidates would even risk sending their spouses to address the Florida Democratic convention later this month. Imagine the blow to the countless Florida fans of Mrs. Dodd.
"These states have conspired to intimidate the presidential candidates. ... They can destroy any presidential campaign," Florida Senate Democratic leader Steve Geller said, explaining why he's about to sue the four early states for alleged voting rights violations.
Candidates who contend they can stand up to al-Qaida are intimidated by the Democratic chairs of South Carolina and Nevada? They seem like such cute little states.
Would voters in these early states really punish a candidate for courting voters in a major battleground state that held an election after their own?
Before visiting New Hampshire, I called one of the most influential opinion leaders in Iowa, David Yepsen of the Des Moines Register. He wasn't so sure Iowans would have rejected a candidate who refused to sign the pledge against campaigning for Florida's Jan. 29 primary, though it could have required some explaining.
"But now it's elevated to a matter of you've given your word," Yepsen said of the pledge. "My perception has always been that people in New Hampshire are much more protective of their primary than Iowans are about their caucus."
So I headed to the Granite State, which has held the nation's first presidential primary for nearly 90 years. I wanted to talk to these fearsome voters.
They didn't seem that scary to me.
In an apple orchard barn, a university gym, a historic theater and at a solar power company, I couldn't find a single New Hampshire Democrat willing to admit they would destroy a candidate for violating the Democratic National Committee's calendar.
Over and over, these voters professed to be oblivious to the whole issue, or simply unconcerned about pledge violators. So long as Florida wasn't butting in front of New Hampshire, voters said, no big deal.
"You mean the candidates can come to Florida and take money, but not talk to reporters or anybody outside of a fundraiser?" said Brandon Miller, 35, a kitchen manager in Plymouth who was waiting to hear Obama speak. "That would make me mad."
"Candidates should be allowed to speak to voters wherever voters are who want to hear them," said Dana Weaver, who was at a Clinton speech.
"This has nothing to do with real voters," said Steve Medaglia, an engineering consultant. "The power guys that control the party set up these rules to maintain their own control of the party, and the candidates have to kowtow to the power structure in the party. Does anyone really think a lot of voters are not going to support a candidate because that candidate campaigned in Florida or Michigan?"
'Rinky-dink state'
But then, at last, some Granite Staters bared their dark souls.
"You're a rinky-dink state, and it serves Florida right," barked educator Mary Ann Reynolds, before an Obama rally in Plymouth. "The people of Florida didn't stop Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris from stealing the election in 2000. We don't forget. Maybe we ought to punish Florida more for what happened in 2000."
At a solar energy company in Merrimack, retired social worker Mary Moriarty initially professed indifference to candidates campaigning to win Florida's primary. But I pressed until she blurted out the truth: "Look what you did to us, you gave us eight years of George Bush, when Al Gore should be our president."
Shocking, I know. It's hard to believe they could be this angry after all this time. But at least it's an answer, which is more than we're getting from the candidates these days.
Adam C. Smith can be reached at asmith@sptimes.com or 727 893-8241.
[Last modified October 15, 2007, 22:01:25]
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by Barbara
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10/23/07 10:16 AM
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Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich will both be in Florida this weekend!!!
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by John
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10/18/07 10:53 AM
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1st,not enough charecters to express an opinion,Rep's/Dem's sleep together and they're a bunch of frauds with no concern for the population/nation,only their agenda..We're only a tally and will never get our hands on the controls.Bye bye U.S.A..
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by Darrell
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10/18/07 05:17 AM
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After 31 years I changed my party affiliation to Independent; Howard Dean is destroying the Democrats; listen up FL and refuse to vote Dem in 2008! Obama you are weak, Hillary you know better and appear weak. Dont bother courting my vote in a year!
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by Angel
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10/17/07 08:46 AM
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Letme be the first or probably not the first person fromFlorida who share the sentiments of manypeople around the country whowere disappointed with the results fromour lastdebacle of an election.Unfortunately the puppets candidates are clueless
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by Wayne
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10/17/07 08:15 AM
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It became evident that the Democratic party really doesn't exist anymore and has been replaced by the Democratic National Committee. Anyone running on as a Democrat has to do what they're told by that organization or face extinction politically.
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by kirk
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10/17/07 07:30 AM
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This is excellent newsworthy reporting! As a Republican I am disgusted with the cowardice of all of these candidates. The Republican and Democrat candidates are nothing but empty suits. Fight Al-Qaida yet fear their chairs? Thank you for the insight.
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by Lou
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10/17/07 04:51 AM
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The Republicans DID NOT STEAL Florida in 2000. That was never proven. The Democrats kept extending and counting( and recounting) and disallowed many votes themselves. Also, media called the election very early. Republicans did win Florid.
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by Matthew
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10/17/07 03:38 AM
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If Hilary and Obama signed a pledge not to campaign in Fl, how can they be damned for not campaigning? Aren't they damned if they fo and damned if they don't?
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by Randy
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10/17/07 02:16 AM
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Why should they have to answer any questions, it seems nobody in Florida can count any ways. Maybe the dems. in Florida have got a little smart and figured out how to cheat like the Lame Brain Republicans.
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by michael
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10/17/07 01:30 AM
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I liked the article and like most of the people you spoke to, I see no reason that the candidates should not speak in florida to collect votes as in any other state. And florida is a big place to get dem. votes. No one should blame them for that.
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by Melanie
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10/17/07 01:23 AM
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Only in America could an election like 2000 go so wrong as we try to insure fair elections in other parts of the world. Florida is not responsible for that disaster, the whole country let it happen. GORE needs to come back and kick their tails.
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by david
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10/16/07 10:02 PM
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I would vote for ben laden before i would vote for a democrate. at least ben laden tells the truth, democrats are all liers
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by njc
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10/16/07 09:56 PM
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It's about time someone had something to say on this subject. If a Dem or Rep candidate does not come to your state and talk to press and voters they do not deserve your vote. The government is "for the people" not the politicians, they work for us!
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by peggy
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10/16/07 09:25 PM
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I'm thinking that if they can't make a stand for themselves now how on earth could they really be president! Just give 'em the $$$-that's all they seem to care about! And Al Gore lost-fair and square-maybe they are control freaks aka-sore loser!
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by Catdancer
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10/16/07 09:01 PM
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How pathetic. This wouldn't be because Florida's leaders show some respect for the constitution, would it? Too bad you can't get Hillary down there, I'd love to hear what accent she affects for Florida.
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by Suzy
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10/16/07 09:00 PM
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I agree with the Democrats. Florida gave us 7 years of George Bush when we could have had a Nobel Peace Prize winner for President. Shame on Florida.
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by david
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10/16/07 08:47 PM
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i think the wing-nuts need to really get over their loss in 2000. stop saying george "stole" the election. didn't happen. the supreme court already ruled that one out. so just shut up already!
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by Lloyd
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10/16/07 08:43 PM
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I think Fl. Democrats should support a Republican candidate.
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by Joe
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10/16/07 08:41 PM
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"Shocking, I know. It's hard to believe they could be this angry after all this time."
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It's more shocking that anyone would not be angry after eight years of George Bush and the Republican party.
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by Barbara
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10/16/07 08:30 PM
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Cannot believe the NDC would really ban Florida fromthe National Convention, to decide the next President....time to look at the Republicans with a eye toward having a voice. Democratic Nat'l Committee and those running should be ashamed.
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by allen
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10/16/07 07:56 PM
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maybe all of you honorable democrats should become honorable republicans and support a true conservative for president. It would serve the democratic party right for the failure of their contenders and pretenders to campaign in Florida.
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by Tommy
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10/16/07 07:37 PM
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Sorry to disagree with you on candidates being afraid of Florida appearances, but Ron Paul, who isn't afraid of anything, will be in Celebration (Orlando) on Oct 21.
Tommy Prater
Jacksonville, Fl
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by tim
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10/16/07 07:23 PM
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Can't have it both ways,You can't take our money and not seat our deligates. What a Joke. None of these people will get my vote, I guess it will be a republican that i will vote for just on the principle of it
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by kgm
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10/16/07 06:15 PM
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Do "they" think the Supreme Court did NOTHING? Do "they" think I forget that they left us in the lurch? I've had it with them!
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by tom
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10/16/07 05:45 PM
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A peek inside. Perhaps we already have a king. Many thanks to the St Pete Times. Will our votes count?
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by Tom
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10/16/07 04:34 PM
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We don't need a StPete Times reporter to give us all the facts.People can watch debates and read columns from other papers. We did throw the election to Bush and this is one corrupt state!!Watch CNN and hear all you need to know about the candidates.
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by Jacque
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10/16/07 03:44 PM
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How much can any plain citizen do. I am still hoping Hillary will be our next President. This last seven years was a night mare.What happening in our own state between property taxes and property insurance. When will anyone listen to the voters.
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by George
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10/16/07 02:56 PM
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Only Adam Smith could find it "shocking" that being upset about getting 8 years of AWOL George W Bush rather than 8 years of Nobel Peace Prize winner Al Gore might upset and anger some people. Perhaps Adam should ask a million dead Iraqis.
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by michael
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10/16/07 01:06 PM
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This has nothing to do with picking the nominee. This entire affair has everything to do with the big dollars spent by candidates to win early primaries. Florida wants a piece of the pie, other states are trying to keep their slice.
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by kitty
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10/16/07 01:02 PM
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I'll hold my nose and vote for whichever dem gets the nomination because the only alternative is the give the rethuglicans another 4 years, and frankly, this country couldn't survive another 4 years of a rethuglican regiem.
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by John
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10/16/07 12:46 PM
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This rinky dink state has more people, more registered democrats, and more electoral votes then the all the "traditional" early primary states COMBINED! A candidate can win all those states and still lose the election on FL alone. Big mistake kids!
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by Baylink
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10/16/07 11:30 AM
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And, of course, *we* didn't give the country 8 years of King George II; SCOTUS and Katherine Harris did that.
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by Patrick
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10/16/07 11:11 AM
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They may as well stop soliciting donations from us, because I won't assist someone who's ignoring me.
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by JFK
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10/16/07 10:56 AM
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Another Democrat Failure....on the LONG list of them: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260170172469
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by Hoshi
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10/16/07 09:17 AM
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They are leaving us no choices but to vote for anything other than democrats. I would hate to see us repeat a Republican nightmare because they couldn't speak for themselves. How are they going to run the WH if they can't speak for themselves now.
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