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Tax plan foes multiply
Gov. Crist touts the benefit to families, while a teacher union hints at a legal assault.
By JUSTIN GEORGE and ALEX LEARY, Times Staff Writers
Published November 1, 2007
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Gov. Charlie Crist greets Tampa homeowner Stan Fields holding his 1-year-old son Rex, with Chantal Fields holding their twin daughter Regina. Crist was on a statewide tour to promote the new proposed tax plan.
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Gov. Charlie Crist holds a press conference in the front yard of Stan and Chantal Fields, promoting the recent property tax plan approved by the House and Senate. The Fields considered moving to a larger house, but decided against it because of tax increases. Fields bought the home in 1993.
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TAMPA - Fourteen years ago, the white brick house on a South Tampa corner was the perfect fit for bachelor Stan Fields.
Today, the two-bedroom dwelling is home to Fields, his wife, twin 1-year-olds, two medium-sized dogs and a parrot named Bo.
"I just want something a little bigger with the babies," said Fields, 44.
On Wednesday, Gov. Charlie Crist used the home on Inman Avenue as a campaign prop, touting the tax cut plan the Legislature passed Monday and the savings the Fields would get if they move to a bigger home.
But as Crist embarked on the second day of a promotional tour, opposition was mounting from educators, organized labor and a state watchdog.
The most vocal dissent came from the state teacher union, which said it is considering strategies to defeat the plan when it goes before voters on Jan. 29.
The union hinted at a possible legal challenge and said Crist's promise to restore up to $3-billion in cuts to public schools over five years doesn't go far enough.
"I need something in my hand. A verbal commitment doesn't get me anything," Florida Eduction Association president Andy Ford said.
The watchdog group Florida TaxWatch also countered Crist's optimism with a harsh assessment, saying the plan gives relief to those who need it least and offers little for nonhomestead property owners, who are hit hardest by soaring property taxes.
"The new property tax amendment falls far short of what is needed," the group said.
For some, like Stan Fields and his wife, Chantal, the benefit is undeniable.
Fields met Crist last year while Crist was campaigning for governor. He told Crist about not being able to move due to higher property taxes.
"I told him we felt trapped in our home," Fields recalled.
For voters like Fields, Crist was offering a solution. He called it "portability," or the ability for homeowners to carry their accrued Save Our Homes benefit to a new home.
Save Our Homes caps annual assessments at 3 percent and has worked famously since going into effect in 1995.
Fields bought his home on Inman Avenue in 1993 for $75,000. Today it is worth $270,589, but the assessed value is $93,372.
The difference - $177,217 - is what is know as a Save Our Homes differential. Under portability, Fields would take that benefit with him to a new home.
With their expanding family and tight quarters, the Fields have been eager to move. But doing so would mean the loss of their tax advantage, not to mention a more expensive mortgage.
"It was better for us to stay right where we are," said Fields, a manufacturer's representative for a roofing and tile company.
He and Chantal, a pharmaceuticals representative, looked at larger homes in South Tampa two years ago only to shudder at paying property tax bills six to seven times higher.
Big savings
But if portability becomes law, they would save significantly. If the Fields find a $400,000 home, they could take their Save Our Homes differential with them, and that would be subtracted from the market value.
Their current tax bill is $1,499 and the new one would be $3,908. That's a sizable increase, but the bill would have been $7,718 without portability.
The new tax bill would reflect the standard $25,000 homestead exemption and any additional homestead exemptions that would apply if the tax proposal passes on Jan. 29.
(While Crist touts it as doubling the exemption to $50,000, the new break would not apply to taxes paid to schools, which account for about 40 percent of a property tax bill. Hence, that "doubling" would be more like an additional $15,000 exemption, not $25,000.)
But doubling the homestead exemption and portability are popular, poll-tested concepts. That's why Crist feels confident the plan will pass.
Opposition lines up
Tempering the promotional tour was growing opposition to the proposal.
Two unions expressed disappointment with the plan because of its impact on local government and schools - as much as $12-billion over five years.
The Florida Education Association said it was laying groundwork for a campaign to defeat the measure. But officials said they would hold off for now in hopes of winning a guarantee that schools would be protected.
Crist and Republican leaders in the Legislature have promised to restore the estimated $1.8-billion to $3-billion schools would lose. Ford, the FEA president, said the organization would continue to talk with Crist and lawmakers in advance of the regular session to secure funding.
Ford said a constitutional challenge to the portability concept is still a possibility.
Legal experts say portability gives an unfair advantage to Florida home buyers over those arriving from another state, a potential violation of the U.S. Constitution's "right to travel" clause.
The AFL-CIO of Florida also opposes the plan, saying it will cost public employee jobs. The union has not decided on a course of action.
"In our opinion it's a very flawed product," said spokesman Rich Templin.
Times news researcher John Martin contributed to this report.
[Last modified October 31, 2007, 23:06:41]
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by Paul
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11/02/07 11:26 AM
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Residents who live here 365 days a year should pay less because they always contributing to the State. Residents who reside here 180 days a year need to pay more to off set the other half of year they are not contributing to our state. Vote Yes!
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by LM
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11/02/07 01:46 AM
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I'm a native, mid 20s, who bought my 1st home last year. This plan does nothing to encourage new homeowners. I can pay my current 2500 taxes on my 199k home, but if I move, what break do I get? What breaks do people downsizing get? This does nothing
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by Chris
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11/01/07 09:43 PM
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Looks like 95% of posters are against this. Vote NO! This is awful. Make portability retoractive to 2000. Super Homestead didn't have this much opposition. I pay $5000, my neighbor pays $1500 for same house. Fair? No!
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by David
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11/01/07 05:36 PM
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As a former Fla resident, I can only say that if the teachers union and orgainized labor are against this, it has got to be a good thing. Hope it passes for all of y'all struggling in tax hell.
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by Kelvin
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11/01/07 05:15 PM
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Vote YES. If this is unconstitutional so would the current law be. Non residents do not need tax relief they need to help pay for the resources they consume. This is the advantage of being a resident of a tourism state. Let the visitors pay!
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by Jerry
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11/01/07 04:27 PM
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What was wrong with my comments earlier this morning? Was it too mean-spirited? You want warm and fuzzy only? Aren't we allowed to make critical remarks about taxpayers paid teachers, the school system in general and that oxymoron, public workers.
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by Robert
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11/01/07 02:47 PM
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Taxes work best when you spread the burden to everyone, not concentrate it in certain groups.
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by James
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11/01/07 01:38 PM
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If the only complaining is from union groups, then I think that this proposal may get the votes to pass.
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by mike
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11/01/07 11:52 AM
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I never thought I would be agreeing with the teachers union or AFl but I do for different reasons.This is a flawed bill,portability wil be challenged in court SOH could be ruled unconsitutional.Vote out every senator who voted for this!
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by Holly
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11/01/07 11:32 AM
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The plan helps some folks; not all. That idiot Crist needs to scrape the whole thing and get some "expert" brains to work this problem so it out helps all who own property.
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by Edward
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11/01/07 11:12 AM
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If the homestead exemption was really double, I would vote for YES despite my strong opposition to portability. Thanks for clarifying that the extra homestead is really only $15,000. I am definitely voting NO. Our representatives should be ashamed.
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by JT
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11/01/07 11:00 AM
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Don't equalize property taxes for part-time carpetbaggers, developers and flippers. Leave things the way they are and allow for portability. This will make people choose Florida or not but not Florida on the cheap.
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by Kim
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11/01/07 10:57 AM
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The residents of Florida must have portability for their Homestead exemption. People who make their home here must be able to afford to live here and change houses when necessary. Homestead portability would revive the real estate market.
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by Bob
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11/01/07 10:39 AM
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Remove all exemptions and caps. Let's have a level playing field for all!
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by Steve S
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11/01/07 10:28 AM
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Again the Governor should let the Tax Commission do their job. Idealogues from Washington DC should run our local government. Rubio and Co. are being led off a cliff by Grover Norquist and others who want to kill government. Local Rule must be saved.
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by Jack
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11/01/07 10:20 AM
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If unions hate it, the plan can't be all bad.
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by Dave
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11/01/07 10:17 AM
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The legislators are incompetent. The proposal does not address the problem, and does little to attract new capital to our starving housing market. I agree, get rid of all these pretenders and elect some real leaders for a change.
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by Rick
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11/01/07 10:00 AM
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I can not believe our taxes actually pay people this dumb to run our state. If you buy a more expensive home, you pay more taxes...period! Solve overall problem by reducing all property millage by 1/2 and making up with additional sales tax. PERIOD!
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by bill
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11/01/07 09:56 AM
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Stan, just build on to the house like the rest of us.
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by tracy
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11/01/07 09:47 AM
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the senate knew that their new and improved tax plan wouldnt pass when they wrote it up.this way it is prolonged and the state can still collect the high tax dollars. no way in the world does it get my vote.they have to come up with something better.
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by Tammy
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11/01/07 09:31 AM
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Please go to
www.floridaballotinitiative.com
or contact the taxation commission
http://www.floridatbrc.org/members.php
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by Michael
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11/01/07 09:20 AM
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The tax proposal is a shame.
Where else do you have neighbors who pay vastly different amounts of taxes.
There was a Boston tea Party. Perhaps it is time to get the same in Tallahassee.
Mr Rubio please bring some economic sense to all this.
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by Peter
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11/01/07 09:14 AM
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Simple taxes 3% SOH for all homesteaders. 2.5% SOB for all business and rental property. Remember business as rental property are in business to make a profile where homeowners are not, so they get less of a break. Give snow birds 1.5% SOH
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by paul
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11/01/07 09:09 AM
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"Their current tax bill is $1,499 and the new one would be $3,908. That's a sizable increase, but the bill would have been $7,718 without portability." So someone else gets to pay an additional $3810 if they don't arive with soh savings? fair?
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by Marilyn
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11/01/07 08:47 AM
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What nonsense. Unless and until we treat the non-homesteaders as equal citizens of the U.S. no solution will be acceptable. I see a huge rise in rents for the young workers or lose our young people to other States. How SAD.
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by Pete
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11/01/07 08:36 AM
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Taxes will never be equal cause of when you buy your home. Why should buyer A who got their home in 1983 pay the same as buyer B who got theirs in 2003. House A cost was 38,500 where house B cost was 258,000. Big difference in cost and tax
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by Todd
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11/01/07 07:06 AM
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Like Florida didn't have enough problems already. Our legislators can't even fix a glaring problem properly. Fellow Floridians, we are in some serious trouble! I hear North Carolina is nice! And before the bashing begins, I am a native.
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by Jeff
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11/01/07 07:03 AM
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The portability portion of the amendment will definately be struck down as unconstitutional. Crist is trying to create "landed gentry" who can afford to buy, and serfs, who can't pay today's taxes. You can't have different taxes for 2 buyers.
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by jacque
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11/01/07 06:05 AM
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No More New taxes until property taxes are equal.
Lower property insurance will stop bankrupting the Citizens Of Florida.
Vote out all incumbants. We need better legislators for the State of Florida.
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